Jack Monroe #217 Fishi Sunak

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  • Read none of it

    Votes: 46 24.2%

  • Skim read

    Votes: 23 12.1%

  • Started out reading it then expired of boredom

    Votes: 28 14.7%

  • read the whole thing

    Votes: 93 48.9%
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waffle maker said:
Also: it’s impossible to put when she is supposed to be sober/ not sober on the timeline as she is constantly contradicting herself. If Jack really wants to recover then maybe stop boasting online about your perfect recovery every few weeks and start addressing the actual issues.
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*This* sober period, we can definitely put a start date to, at least. And she also claims her non-sober period started after DKL, although before that it's difficult to keep track as she refers to various 'slips' while still claiming to be sober. Now, if I were her, and especially because she says being on the front page declaring her sobriety a week after stopping drinking was detrimental, I would definitely not put all this information out there. She knows how common relapses are and she's still very early in this recovery.
 
MooBelle said:
Lie after lie. Not mentioning why Tattle talks about her, nor that people irl don't like her for the same reasons we don't. Nobody is trolling her, she actively seeks us out. No mention of her own bullying and inciting the pile ons, not only on Oliver Walliams etc but on normal everyday people who she takes offence at.
Also no mention of the kitten, the rabbit, taking benefit money from disabled people, pretending to be poor, the patreon, the tip jar, kick-start, not paying tax, using her child's GoHenry, lying about Grenfell, misappropriation of Jo Cox murder and lying about literally everything.
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THIS ⬆⬆⬆⬆

I always start off feeling sorry for her, and it’s fantastic that a) she went to a rehab b) that she is doing further education and c) that she has a regular hours, part time job. However, she hasn’t stayed off twitter, she breadcrumbed all of that infirmation. She needs to stop blurting her personal life and every mundane thought on SM and maintain professional pages like ‘Mom’ (aka Nigella in Jack parlance)

Honestly, I find this article disappointing and specious. Yet again, she makes no mention at all of HOW this scrutiny really started - with the abominable rage fest and campaign against a blameless Jamie Oliver. She omits all the other bizarre pile-ons that she instigated on Twitter, against Walliams, the teacher, and various of her fans, including the data protection lady. She makes no mention of her breakup with LJC, what caused it (her erratic behaviour methinks) and how this impacted her. She fails to explain about her treatment of the sick and dying kitten, the morality of this, and how this would have affected others. She uses evasive, weasel words to place all blame for her MH and alcohol relapse here, when her constant social media over-use means that the entire globe can see the bullying, mistruths and inconsistencies - the vegans who were annoyed with her Del Monte campaign were not from here. Neither is data protection lady. Her poverty-origin story is also highly specious - she refers to herself as middle class in at least two articles online, yet she constantly pretends to have been raised poor. She doesn’t address the Patreon monies that she takes without giving proper service to the donors. She hasn't addressed the Kickstarter fiasco that her ex fans still mention to this day. What she does do is use her various diagnoses as a crutch and an excuse every single time; she very recently tweeted a complaint to the effect that she is criticised for the ADHD/autism behaviours and not given allowance for them. Yet she consistently appears to make zero effort to devise work-arounds to compensate for these known behaviours. She just expects to screw up, be rude, fail to deliver and everyone make allowance for her over and over again, suffering no consequences. The real world is not like that.

Anyone following her Twitter could see that she had relapsed as she obliquely referred to it, and there was talk of starting the days over from zero. How can this be laid at our door when (as she has already told us via SM) her mother said that Jack has been missing for SEVEN years. She has addiction and personality problems that she is well aware of - but no progress can be made unless she is scrupulously honest with herself.

Judging by this article, she is not, which is sad and doesn’t bode well for a full recovery.

(Soz for this lengthy screed - I truly am saddened. Just more of the same imho).
 
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Saint_clemmie said:
She also failed to mention that she got DKL after having a tantrum over Jamie Oliver, and lied about her hat being in the ring for it when in fact it was created by his own production company. No mention of the fact that she was off the wagon yet claiming sobriety at the same time, also was so addicted to reading here that she couldn't resist joining us. No mention of why we talk about her, obvs. And when she venerably opened up to her sponsor about sexual abuse, but forgot to mention that she spewed all the details on Twitter with no trigger warning.
If that's not enough she doesn't explain why she claims poverty and takes money for nothing from her “fans” when in fact she has been/is in a very VERY privileged position.

Please no one feel sorry for her, she's a master manipulator.
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Yes it is all very disingenuous isn't it? Picked on for no reason at all and completely out of the blue by bullies for getting a TV show :rolleyes:
Well obviously after her awful behaviour she was going to have to be amazing. And she wasn't. Absolutely far from it. Embarrassingly bad. And we watched on with hilarity which was probably uncomfortable for her. She was also routinely derided on Twitter btw by others (which I imagine stopped series 2, not here).
Then she contacted Matt's wife thanking her for lending him, and confidently was going to laugh up a lung at the promise of the show being renewed - all so cringe 😬
I imagine her massive ego was terribly dented and she blamed here for her failings. Still does apparently.
 
A lot of her new timeline and behaviours from last year makes sense. In that it ‘adds up’ and maps a definite trajectory of chaoses and poor judgement. But almost like it’s all been planned and orchestrated in order to facilitate a back story for this new redemption arc.

Like most of us here, I do genuinely wish her well in whatever recovery she’s going through. The story of Jack Monroe will keep on going though - to her there’s no other main character more compelling.
 
Lanie said:
I have repeatedly said i have never taken it off tattle

How can she be sure no one in her real life has reported her to any of these organisations.

Sometimes its often closer to home pet.
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See, the black eye situation meant she went to hospital. If that had happened whilst she was under the influence, the presence of alcohol would have been detected and or admitted to by Jack during her hospital admission. And it would go on record. Along with the fact that she may have been alone with a child when it happened. So it might have been medical staff. That might also have induced anyone close to her to read her tweets about SB watching over her which would then prompt a course of action which could have led to her being reported. Equally it could have been a tattler or someone who reads but isn't a member.

She can't admit that she was in the wrong and may have put her child in danger, instead she focuses her rage on people who were concerned for the vulnerable minors in her care (SB, Kitten). If she was truly on the road to recovery, she would hold up her hands to these facts and admit she had done wrong and elaborate how to address these issues properly. She could go to rehab every day for a decade but I don't think she will ever get it because I Me Mine is foremost in Jack's head.
 
The new life she’s making for herself sounds like a very good infrastructure for an honest way of living. She’s acquiring an actual skill set through university, she’s providing copy writing services in exchange for money, and she’ll eventually have a career where she exchanges different services for money.

Nothing will rely on deviously worded pity posts, ego, the idea of Jack being a good poor who does so much for others so pay her, etc etc. I honestly think the shame of all she’s done to date is insurmountable for her at the mo hence why we keep getting these ridiculous takes. To get well she needs to challenge everything from her grandiose self mythologising (my crazy brain! Just a little thing I invented on a whim!) through to the out and out Patreon scam. She would (as many do!) come out of it an entirely different person, but can she afford that? 🤷🏻‍♀️
 
What a load of old shite.

- “the vulgarities of minor celebrity” that she actively chases through continued book contracts, sponsorship deals and failed attempts at TV presenting? If it’s so vulgar why doesn’t she look for a job that isn’t? Oh, because she wouldn’t get attention that way.

- She claims to have been abusing anti-anxiety medicine yet just three weeks ago on her now deleted thread she was saying she couldn’t get hold of a GP and a dosage increase was suggested. What happened to this full review of meds? She’s still lying.

- Talks about the tiny inner circle privy to her recovery but was tweeting the entire time, dropping massive hints about being in therapy.

- The usual shallow dross equating appearance with addiction. A pink jacket representing her “ta-da!” breakthrough moment (which doesn’t exist, surely? It’s a long grind as anything else). All the addicts I know - including my own father - have been absolutely meticulously turned out. Not everyone looks like Ian Beale at rock bottom.

- She simply doesn’t have it in her to be a “mother hen”. Either it was a performance on her part to avoid actual therapeutic scrutiny or it didn’t happen. We saw from her friend who posted here that she is totally selfish and self-serving.

- I actually cannot believe that someone who lost a lucrative partnership deal for accusing a politician of weaponising his dead son would take their child to therapy. Is the poor kid allowed no boundaries, no respite from his mum’s incessant issues?

- I wonder what the end game of this degree is? She clearly isn’t that into food and has problems with disordered eating. Does she think it will earn her consultancy roles with Trussell Trust and the like? I’m glad she’s trying to actually better herself but I’m not convinced she’ll see it out and the Dunning-Kruger of Jack-with-an-undergrad-degree is going to be something to behold.

She’s awful. No accountability. No confession of her lies and embellishments. A very sad article, but for her son and those around her who are too enmeshed to pull themselves away.

A small plus that her tit looks great. Well done for that I suppose.
 
I think this is dangerous territory. Diva is a niche magazine, but there is nothing to stop something like the Daily Mail picking up on it. And guess what, they will refer back to here.


Jack was scared Social Services (that’s their name by the way) would take SB away because she used a food bank. But thinks it’s fine to write that she has been incapacitated by alcohol whilst in charge of a child or that she’s drinking 200 units a week. You don’t think that would be flagged, or another parent at school smell it,

i can’t read it very well but it refers to thousands of messages on social media. I’m assuming it means here and not actual messages to her on social media. This means she’s constantly seeking it out.
 
DisgruntledGoat said:
What a load of old shite.

- “the vulgarities of minor celebrity” that she actively chases through continued book contracts, sponsorship deals and failed attempts at TV presenting? If it’s so vulgar why doesn’t she look for a job that isn’t? Oh, because she wouldn’t get attention that way.

- She claims to have been abusing anti-anxiety medicine yet just three weeks ago on her now deleted thread she was saying she couldn’t get hold of a GP and a dosage increase was suggested. What happened to this full review of meds? She’s still lying.

- Talks about the tiny inner circle privy to her recovery but was tweeting the entire time, dropping massive hints about being in therapy.

- The usual shallow dross equating appearance with addiction. A pink jacket representing her “ta-da!” breakthrough moment (which doesn’t exist, surely? It’s a long grind as anything else). All the addicts I know - including my own father - have been absolutely meticulously turned out. Not everyone looks like Ian Beale at rock bottom.

- She simply doesn’t have it in her to be a “mother hen”. Either it was a performance on her part to avoid actual therapeutic scrutiny or it didn’t happen. We saw from her friend who posted here that she is totally selfish and self-serving.

- I actually cannot believe that someone who lost a lucrative partnership deal for accusing a politician of weaponising his dead son would take their child to therapy. Is the poor kid allowed no boundaries, no respite from his mum’s incessant issues?

- I wonder what the end game of this degree is? She clearly isn’t that into food and has problems with disordered eating. Does she think it will earn her consultancy roles with Trussell Trust and the like? I’m glad she’s trying to actually better herself but I’m not convinced she’ll see it out and the Dunning-Kruger of Jack-with-an-undergrad-degree is going to be something to behold.

She’s awful. No accountability. No confession of her lies and embellishments. A very sad article, but for her son and those around her who are too enmeshed to pull themselves away.

A small plus that her tit looks great. Well done for that I suppose.
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Well the face isn’t hers so how do we who’s tit it actually is?
 
Lumpyspaceprincess said:
Jack was scared Social Services (that’s their name by the way) would take SB away because she used a food bank.
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Sorry, I can never take her seriously about this since the Mumsnet thread SHE CREATED to ask, an all seriousness, whether she should report a young mum to the Crown Prosecution Services Social Services for being loud in a beer garden.
 
MooBelle said:
Another Me, me, me bullshit article. Not even an interview, an essay on her favourite subject, herself.
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That jumped out at me too. An interviewer could at least ask supplementary questions… probe Jack’s version of events a bit. Writing an essay like this just gives Jack carte blanche to be as flowery and dramatic with the retelling as she likes. Which is typical Jack, as we know.

The paragraph about falling off the wagon is just ridiculous.

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Pocahontas said:
A lot of her new timeline and behaviours from last year make sense. In that it ‘adds up’ and maps a definite trajectory of chaoses and poor judgement. But almost like it’s all been planned and orchestrated in order to facilitate a back story for this new redemption arc.

Like most of us here, I do genuinely wish her well in whatever recovery she’s going through. The story of Jack Monroe will keep on going though - to her there’s no other main character more compelling.
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She reminds me of the oscar wilde quote,

Whats worse than being talked about it is not being talked about.

If we were to shut down here and by judging how many tags shes been mentioned in in the last year she wouldnt be barely mentioned negatively or positively.

She hates here because she cannot control whats being said but at the same time loves that people are talking about her. She needs, loves and desires attention. She even admitted that by trawling through her sm to find negative comments. I mean who does that. If you happen upon it well thats crap but dont actively seek them.
 
maytoseptember said:
That jumped out at me too. An interviewer could at least ask supplementary questions… probe Jack’s version of events a bit. Writing an essay like this just gives Jack carte blanche to be as flowery and dramatic with the retelling as she likes. Which is typical Jack, as we know.

The paragraph about falling off the wagon is just ridiculous.

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That is awful flowery drivel which consequently makes her experience sound fabricated.
 
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