Jack Monroe #18 From giving THAT MAN hell to a Hellman's collab, “Baby Nigella’s” food is still making us gag.

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Raker said:
Erm, possibly more palatable to “Waitrose” if:

(i) the food proffered was palatable/attractive/enticing; the writing, photography and presentation were good

(ii) the author was knowledgeable about fundamental food facts, ranging from basic info about “types” of food — potatoes, mince — through potential substitutions or replacements, to seasonality; or if the author was less seemingly xenophobic about cheap, nutritious and delicious foods from other cultures

(iii) the author had some basic cooking skills and was therefore knowledgable about how to cook said food, without “slinging“, “bunging” or “nuking”— I’m sure there is a place for each of these actions somewhere across the global food pantheon, but surely not all in the one dish;

(iv) the author paid attention to contrasts, textures, colours — these are important to not just the overall appearance of the dish in question, but also have some bearing on nutrition and digestive (and otherwise) health

(v) there wasn’t such a reliance on tinned food where fresh was often more easily available and cheaper — not withstanding important information put forward in an articulate and, more crucially, a non-haranguing way by previous posters in this forum on food deserts and the abhorrent situation many in this supposedly wealthy country are still facing in bloody 2020

(vi) the author would use her considerable platform to address point (v) above, rather than attempting to solve it for those living in these conditions by rinsing tins of baked beans

(vi) the author didn’t have a track record of online bullying/setting sycophants on others with differing opinions/deleting evidence of this. Or could demonstrate a willingness to take any form of constructive
criticism

(vi) the author’s continuing peripheral and self-created dramas did not detract and distract from what is put forward as her primary objective (e. the food)

(vii) the author would update her ongoing and ever changing narrative about her various experiences (food/poverty/gender politics/veganism/mental health/physical health/shared parenting). Or settle for a single version of the truth.

(viii) the author would accept that live broadcasting on any medium is not for her, and concentrate on developing her own skill set, perhaps starting with cookery techniques and food basics

(ix) the author’s reliance on “blue ticker” approval was not her sole form of validation. Arselicking the famous while being snippy to “ordinary” people is not working out well for Sali Hughes either.

(x) the author’s familiar diatribes on “poverty, exploitation and injustice” were updated to be not just focussed on her individual temporary experience from over a decade ago, but in what is happening today, in different parts of the country, to people if different backgrounds, i.e. acknowledging the valid experiences of others
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In a forum containing so many good observations. this is an exceptional summary. Jack should read, reflect, and take on board if wanting to progress.

HarderFaster said:
Thiiiiiis. I get the vast majority of my recipes from books and blogs, for me cooking shows are just ASMR experiences really. IMO Nigel Slater has never made anything approaching an actual meal, it's all tomatoes mopped up with artisanal sourdough, but his show is still nice to watch because he has a relaxing voice and evident enthusiasm for food.

I never watch Rick Stein because he's such a know-it-all prick (distinctly remember seeing him correct a Mandarin translator's grammar and it was still edited into his show! twit. Learn to speak Mandarin and I'll allow your mansplaining) and I know I'm likely missing out on some decent tips.

With Jack it's not even like she's gonna be giving you any hints, just a ball of nervous, gobby energy and complete lack of knowledge ("just... normal potatoes"). What could anyone possibly take away from watching her other than a sixth form awareness of politics?
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Fell in culinary love with Nigel Slater circa 20 years ago. All he did was describe a chicken sandwich he had made, and I was smitten from that moment.

OhhBacon said:
I think I have mentioned this a few times but Adam Frost does a ‘show’ every Friday on Insta Live. It’s at 5pm and is lovely, he is ready when the camera goes live. He is relaxed and know his stuff, you genuinely learn from him. He answers questions that have been sent in during the week.

Admittedly his family help, his daughter holds the camera and his wife drinks G&T and wanders around. This adds a genuine feel to it, if only Jack had a child and a partner to help....!
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AF is great. Is he 'getting the hang of this telly thing' now? I think part of the problem is that Jack can sense how bewildering the professionals find her.
 
Poor Miguel mentioned his book at least twice, I expect he was hoping Jack would do him a courtesy of asking him about it. Oh Miguel, how naive you are, don’t you know Jack just cares about Jack.
Absolutely no chance she’ll help you to promote your book when you’re all up in her niche.

- still reeling at that comment!
 
Hunty said:
Interesting, and even though not huge numbers, she has been losing followers this past week, normally she gains so many followers you never see the red, but this time she has lost more followers than she has gained in several days... Wonder what in particular causes her to lose followers, because there are certain things that I would think would lose her 1000s of followers but she doesn't and yet this week has been relatively timid by Jack's standards and we are seeing her in the red, even though only small and doesn't make a real dent, I still find it interesting lol 😂View attachment 139238 q
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She has very few followers to be sponsored by such a big company as hellmans ?
 
linzilou said:
Not a ducking chance she is advising on political research. She is compensated commercially through her job so her involvement would HAVE to be declared for transparency.

I’ve submitted a freedom of information request to see if there is any truth in her claim 🙄
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Thank you, you’re fab! ❤️ As a taxpayer I really hope that all government advisors are thoroughly vetted & absolutely declared and above board? It feels like a real conflict of interests to have someone with their own commercial interests snuck in through the back door to advise, I do hope it doesn’t happen.
 
Zipxip said:
in response to her being 'semi regularly quietly consulted by people working on Government reports', I'm sitting with a government social researcher right now and asked him how likely this seems on a scale of 1-10, he said '-1000'
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Ha! I bet That means she has a YouGov account. I have one, so I consider myself consulted on a semi regular basis when I do their surveys.

I have had a good day so far; a triumphant visit to the tip, driving there and back with metal on 11, and the glorious news that Greg's is reopening. I will celebrate by parsing Jack's statement on her political activities.

And my husband's just made me a quorn sausage sandwich - can the day get any better!
 
Thank you for the commentary last night. The other half asked if I was “on that Tattle again.”

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I went on last night but Miguel had gone and she was rambling about people joining her on live. She does what I do when I have to speak in public. I waffle and to make up for my waffling I waffle some more and try to be funny. Luckily I’m not trying to make it as a TV (or should that be IGTV) chef.

I wish her fans wouldn’t jump on everyone who makes even the smallest bit of constructive criticism and defend her with, “But this is the first time she’s done it!” This is the woman who said she had TV presenter training and recently had a two week stint on the BBC. I’m not saying she should be a pro by now but at least have the absolute basics by showing up on time, being prepared and letting the other person speak.
 
LennyBriscoe said:
@Flumps, you’re the best 😘
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No, you're the best. You're all the best. Mwah.

Hmmm, all this affection (though meant sincerely) is confusing when sober.

Little vignette from the 'Occasional Tales of Lockdown Life With A Hormonal Teenager'. I've just been to pick up my Click and Collect order. Had a little sit down and a read of Tattle before putting shopping away (<cough> procrastinator </cough>). Heard my daughter come downstairs. Heard lots of rustling in the kitchen. 'Oh!' thought I (fool that I am) 'How lovely. I went to get the shopping and now my beloved child is putting it away for me'. Rustling continues. I congratulate myself on raising a thoughtful, generous, helpful child, despite recent arguments about what constitutes a fair division of labour and consider what breakthroughs I might expect next. Look up to see teenager walk past me triumphantly carrying a bag of prawn cocktail crisps and heading back to her bedroom. Enter kitchen to find all shopping where I left it (except in a worse state) and a pile of washing up left in the sink, presumably because the elves will shortly be along to do it.

And it's far too hot to parent.
 
NoseyParkour said:
Thank you for the commentary last night. The other half asked if I was “on that Tattle again.”

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I went on last night but Miguel had gone and she was rambling about people joining her on live. She does what I do when I have to speak in public. I waffle and to make up for my waffling I waffle some more and try to be funny. Luckily I’m not trying to make it as a TV (or should that be IGTV) chef.

I wish her fans wouldn’t jump on everyone who makes even the smallest bit of constructive criticism and defend her with, “But this is the first time she’s done it!” This is the woman who said she had TV presenter training and recently had a two week stint on the BBC. I’m not saying she should be a pro by now but at least have the absolute basics by showing up on time, being prepared and letting the other person speak.
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Spot on. Also, while DKL was on she went nuts every time it was suggested she was a glorified guest, she was the co presenter and don’t you dare say otherwise. Now suddenly she’s super grateful she managed not to Blow the shed up without the highly experienced Matt and crew supporting her. And she’s still only calling him a co presenter while simultaneously stressing how she learned nothing.
Normally she irritates me but i’m fed up and hot today and cross about all of her lies and smoke.
 
Nottonightbabe said:
I do look forward to reading the real reviews for this book... 😏
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Fixed it for you sweetheart. xx

Hunty said:
But of course, none of the comments on her post have pointed out that Padawan means what it means, and instead as usual are blowing smoke up her bleeping arse
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You will not believe what my old boy called her. Even my ears turned red.
 
Zipxip said:
in response to her being 'semi regularly quietly consulted by people working on Government reports', I'm sitting with a government social researcher right now and asked him how likely this seems on a scale of 1-10, he said '-1000'
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Why on earth would someone carrying out a government report consult Jack? She's no point of reference anymore. 🙄

Light hearted thread suggestion:
"Two Men" walk into a bar. Or did they...? 🤔
 
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