Jack Monroe #145 Mamapapa, why is all the food brown?

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GothPrincess said:
There is no such thing as classic autism.
I’m the parent of 2 autistic children.
Jack is a twit.
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There is classic autism, but the NHS tend not to use the term, certainly not in my PCT in the last ten years. It exists as a concept, and was/is used to describe quite severe (low-functioning) autism. In my PCT we don’t use high or low functioning any more, but treat all children as completely individual, in combination with their diagnosis of ASC. Terms used depend on the PCT, it seems, but classic autism has always meant severe.
 
RobinsNest said:
My mum is a teacher at a high school, she teaches special classes to help kids with educational and personal issues catch up and stay on track. She's said that every year, the number of children in her class diagnosed with ADHD goes up. She really struggled to get an autism diagnosis for my brother (even strangers will ask if he's autistic, he's textbook and no, and they were never able to get a proper diagnosis), but most of the kids with ADHD are just generically energetic kids or kids who are a bit forgetful, but they're parents have some money or some doctor friends or harass their doctors endlessly for the label to get what is essentially an excuse for regular child behaviour.
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I work in the world of SEND 📐 and these types of anecdotes are just not helpful to anyone with ADHD. Just because more children have a diagnosis of it doesn’t necessarily mean their parents are trying to ‘label’ them - diagnostic criteria and assessment has improved, understanding and recognition has improved. These kids aren’t just energetic or forgetful - it’s more complex than that, and it’s aggravating to read that a high school teacher who spends all day with kids with ADHD can be so invalidating about their needs 😔
 
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"Out of office on" :ROFLMAO:
She has to tell people to put "Urgent - action needed by X" in the subject lines of their emails because she doesn't bleeping read them. She wouldn't last a week in a proper job.
 
RobinsNest said:
My mum is a teacher at a high school, she teaches special classes to help kids with educational and personal issues catch up and stay on track. She's said that every year, the number of children in her class diagnosed with ADHD goes up. She really struggled to get an autism diagnosis for my brother (even strangers will ask if he's autistic, he's textbook and no, and they were never able to get a proper diagnosis), but most of the kids with ADHD are just generically energetic kids or kids who are a bit forgetful, but they're parents have some money or some doctor friends or harass their doctors endlessly for the label to get what is essentially an excuse for regular child behaviour.
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I hope to god your Mum is nowhere near my son with that attitude. He has enough challenges already without a teacher who should know better making judgements.
 
Nottonightbabe said:
If she had cooked something nice with any of it, she would have mentioned or taken photos surely? 😕
I would not be surprised if she lives on rubbish most of the time, slices of cheap white bread and instant noodles etc.
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I have an inkling she does. She is not really into food and does not value it much.
If I had been given that lovely fish I would not for any foto opp have placed it on the table but put it all away into the freezer swiftly, she might even have let it go off because she interrupted the cooling chain. It breaks my heart, I love fish and I would have cooked it about every second day.
 
ScamSandwich said:
I have an inkling she does. She is not really into food and does not value it much.
If I had been given that lovely fish I would not for any foto opp have placed it on the table but put it all away into the freezer swiftly, she might even have let it go off because she interrupted the cooling chain. It breaks my heart, I love fish and I would have cooked it about every second day.
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What makes me sad about the fish situation is thinking about the wastage. A parcel of fish doesn't randomly turn up on your doorstep, does it? She probably would have been in correspondence with them and agreed to accept the gift. If you know you couldn't use it fresh, why accept it at all? Even in a £3,000 Smeg, fish won't keep forever.
 
Buscake said:
All this patreon chat made me want to have a look at hers - love the fact that the cover picture is of her staring at her phone and NOT cooking 😁
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That’s always made me laugh too. She couldn’t even manage to provide a photo showing her enjoying cooking and creating something appealing (because she doesn’t and she can’t). It’s like she’s blatantly saying “This is what I’ll actually be doing with your money, suckers” and that is why I have little sympathy for anyone who signs up to her Patreon and doesn’t immediately unsubscribe after the first month.
 
Buscake said:
I work in the world of SEND 📐 and these types of anecdotes are just not helpful to anyone with ADHD. Just because more children have a diagnosis of it doesn’t necessarily mean their parents are trying to ‘label’ them - diagnostic criteria and assessment has improved, understanding and recognition has improved. These kids aren’t just energetic or forgetful - it’s more complex than that, and it’s aggravating to read that a high school teacher who spends all day with kids with ADHD can be so invalidating about their needs 😔
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I agree. It's also that people have to work with the system we've got. I've got a good friend whose son was eventually diagnosed with ADHD. She really wasn't keen on getting him a label, but the funding wasn't available through the school until he had a formal diagnosis and they strongly encouraged her to try and get a statement for him.
I would prefer that schools could get funding for additional support for children regardless of medical statements, but, as we all learned a few years ago, 'there is no magic money tree'. (Though I think there actually is ...)
 
Droosie123 said:
I hope to god your Mum is nowhere near my son with that attitude. He has enough challenges already without a teacher who should know better making judgements.
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I don't want to step in in an unsensitive way as I don't know @RobinsNest's mum or the children and your children...but I think there is valid criticism that even some professionals pick up on things that are trending and label people incorrectly...Of course there are people struggling from the conditions but I can only ever give an example from my experience that often things trend and in my circle of friends there is a really high amount of people who have been 'diagnosed' as autistic by their therapists...It could be that I just attract autistic people and that there is now a higher awareness and this leads to more cases that have previously gone undocumented. I doubt that some diagnosis went beyond filling in a quick questionnaire that one could find on the internet.
I too have heard parents being convinced that their child is autistic and having them diagnosed by an alternative health system (naturopaths)... Because I don't work remotely in that field I could never say anything about another person in that regard but I did wonder where the so convinced attitude came from.so there is a hype and a lot of harmful ways...harmful for those that really do have the condition and who are treated with ignorance and then, which brought us here, people who self-diagnose, just throw round the term and toy with the condition.
 
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