Jack Monroe #136 We lived in a house, it had a roof

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I’MBUSY! said:
I don’t particularly begrudge that Jack was a witness (not sure what the correct word is) at previous reviews. Obviously *we* know (suspect, M’Lud) that her poverty story is mainly based on smoke and mirrors, but no one really knew that at the time.

But I absolutely begrudge that she keeps inserting herself into a discussion about which she has no direct experience for over eight years (if at all). What happened to all the “agency” and “advocacy” rights you wouldn’t dream of removing from those for whom poverty and food insecurity is lived experience right now, Jack?

Is it just that you think you’re better than them?
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That's it. If she'd at least spent the last eight years developing herself as a campaigner or a cook or both, I could see why she'd still be involved but I really can't see what she's bringing to the party now other than those mouldy old potatoes.
 
HarderFaster said:
Roadside Mum has tweeted today about receiving loads of presents. Combined with her tweets about how she should be given a consulting role off the back of this, I’m worried it’s all gone a bit Jack 2.0: This Time There May Be Some Experience of Poverty.

I can’t help but compare gobby Twitter sorts with the people I know from all walks of life who run various foodbanks, lunch clubs, temple kitchens, and they just quietly do it week in, week out, year after year, getting little to no recognition and often topping up supplies from their own pockets despite having little themselves.

Of course digital campaigning has a part in activism, but it’s much smaller than is made out to be. Way too many people, led by their Povvo Filler Queen Munro, have absolutely no material contribution to allaying any of the issues they wank on about to look liberal.

I can’t believe the Guardian have paid her AGAIN to write the same story they’ve paid her to write endless times. Just cannot with this bleep.
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Time will tell.

Imagining Jack will be doing a bit of deep diving, looking for a chance that to throw a bit of PA shade.
 
BantzMonkey said:
Sorry had to have an epic Grunka but I missed the details about RM initial post with the contents of the hamper. Was it established that this was actually for 5 lunches, not the 10 initially stated?
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Jack tweeted it was for five lunches, but RM has always said 10 days.

I did hear on one of the media reports that it was actually for 2 kids so 10 lunches but for 5 days, but I’m not sure how true that is. Jack did not do RM a favour by posting the pic with the 5 days as that started a lot of questioning about it.
 
BantzMonkey said:
Sorry had to have an epic Grunka but I missed the details about RM initial post with the contents of the hamper. Was it established that this was actually for 5 lunches, not the 10 initially stated?
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AFAIK that remains disputed. Chartwells maintain it was for five days but RM had apparently been told in writing that it was for ten days. Could just be a local level communications duck up or similar but I don't think there's a final, agreed upon answer so far.
 
Flash123 said:
just looked at her Twitter and she is doing a fundraiser on eBay for a small foodbank.
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Eugh, this is all beginning to feel a bit weird.

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RM gets some presents and a dopamine rush to boot. Jack will not be pleased, this is her turf and some usurper is trying to steal her crown!

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And this. I'm just a bit 'over' people being snippy at others on SM because they have an audience.

Anyway, will be watching with interest.
 
Emmapism said:
I’ve really enjoyed catching up this morning and reading all of your considered thoughts. It amazes me that most put more thought into a post on a gossip forum than Jack does with well.....anything.
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💯 this 👆
I was grunking through the incredibly intelligent, thoughtful and empathetic responses, on this thread, from you canal of bullying ninnies, whilst doing so was thinking, duck these fuxkers are amazing. I mostly love the comedy of this place, but today the observations and sincerity are blowing me away.
I salute you all.

Now absolutely get to duck
 
Satisfying Click said:
Eugh, this is all beginning to feel a bit weird.

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RM gets some presents and a dopamine rush to boot. Jack will not be pleased, this is her turf and some usurper is trying to steal her crown!

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And this. I'm just a bit 'over' people being snippy at others on SM because they have an audience.

Anyway, will be watching with interest.
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You know what this might mean : fight!!!
 
Satisfying Click said:
Eugh, this is all beginning to feel a bit weird.

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RM gets some presents and a dopamine rush to boot. Jack will not be pleased, this is her turf and some usurper is trying to steal her crown!

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And this. I'm just a bit 'over' people being snippy at others on SM because they have an audience.

Anyway, will be watching with interest.
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Because I am mean and cynical, I am starting to get 'All about Eve'' vibes.

eta But as Jack is willing to stand on people's heads, I am fine with it.
 
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Cookiecookie said:
She has gone all God botherer lately.

Those articles are pathetic, lazy, and just ugh. She's so pissed off at not being included on that letter. However, when your 'activism' is just self centred twitter rants, is it any wonder no one wanted her sticky fingers near it? She's just awful.
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Her 'activism' reminds me of when I was a heavy drinker in my edgy teens and early 20s, I'd pick a pet cause to rant about to no end and then be mortified the next day. Fortunately I developed some perspective and self-awareness as I got older but she doesn't seem to have got that far yet.

eta: I still drink and ramble on occasion but it's mostly limited to such illuminating topics as 'what do you mean you haven't heard of Brian Eno?' followed by a 10 minute impromptu presentation, and not Poorly Understood Social Issues
 
So on the one hand we have BIGGER PICTURE JACK telling the Guardian that letter writing won't solve anything (yes, we all remember the school dinners campaign when That Man famously wrote a letter and did nothing else? No? Oh, so many these seasoned campaigners already know what they're doing...).

And on the other we have FORENSIC JACK honing in on, of all things, the price of garlic. First, I think not even the French go through 3 bulbs a week; there's a reason garlic isn't seen as a crucial staple like bread, milk or luxury sideboards. Secondly, there is a very big picture here. It's about farmers and farm workers being paid fairly; it's about the fact that crop pickers across Europe are treated like tit, and are often some of the poorest people in society; it's about the fact that undercutting local farmers by importing cheaper produce from developing economies creates local poverty (farmers), damages those other countries (unfair wages, cash crops going abroad instead of into local mouths, etc), and is disastrous for the environment.

Very cheap food does not exist in a bubble.

BIGGER PICTURE JACK: *silence*
 
I'll reserve judgement on RM for the time being. She's had a tit ton of attention in a short space of time, she's not a public figure with access to PR etc she's going to duck up here and there. I will say that I don't think she should be getting involved with people tweeting her about Jack and would be better to keep Jack at arms length to avoid getting drawn into that shitshow but she's a grown woman so can make her own mind up. I don't think Twitter does many folk any favours,I even find my self eye rolling at people I really like on occasion and I'm sure people do the same to me. Even if RM does turn into a Jack style monster in the future she's still achieved more in a few days than Jack has in eight years so she'll never be quite as bad as Jack. I know many of us here initially took Jack at face value and have been let down to say the least so it's understandable to be wary but I'm leaning very firmly to the benefit of the doubt side just now because I'd rather be wrong yet again than unfairly criticise someone who doesn't deserve it.
 
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