Israeli - Palestinian Conflict #20

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Veronicaaa said:
It's so telling that people pop up in the thread and all they've got to say is 'bleep's dead' or 'it's Iran's fault' and then disappear. Zero analysis, zero in the way of making any kind of case, just random sentences and then they're gone again. Just a whole load of nothing.
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Well yeh but when a person has nothing inside they have nothing of substance to contribute 🤷‍♀️
ETA If that’s all they’ve taken from a genocide that’s turned Gaza into a graveyard for children then I pity them.
 
Sinwar was born in a refugee camp, witnessed atrocities from a young age, spent time in prison in Israel, lost family members, witnessed the destruction of his land,obvious to him that the world does not care...

How many children have been born in refugee camps in the past year alone?
How many carry the trauma of generations of loss, lost land, lost family...friends, homes, opportunities and growing up knowing the world still did not care and monsters are very very real!
 
I am watching the briefing with Mathew Dracula Miller. He starts out saying how glad he is that Sinwar is dead, calling him a terrorist, same shite, different day. Halfway through this briefing he says that Blinken told Israel that he spoke with the other Arab states. They want a path forward and have a new Arab alliance to isolate Iran. Yes, because the real problem is Iran and not Israel exterminating Palestinians, looking for an Eretz Israel: Southern Lebanon, Western Jordan, parts of Syria, Gaza and the West Bank and that is just the moderate version. Miller goes on to state the benefits for the state of Israel that would bring, but of course he says "We cannot make that choice for the government of Israel or for the people of Israel." Different story for the Palestinians obviously. :rolleyes: The Arab reporter tells him the world doesn't work that way, i.e. other nations get sanctions for breaking international law *cough* Russia *cough* and the U.S. is blocking that for Israel.

The situation is beyond ceasefire, we need intervention.

In other news, Asa Winstanley of E.I. has had his home raided and electronic device seized by the cops.

https://electronicintifada.net/blog...ce-raid-home-seize-devices-eis-asa-winstanley
 
The Israel's have released drone footage of Sinwars final moments. By doing so they have revealed so much about themselves.

Firstly they have made him even more of a martyr. Even in his dying moments he had the strength to throw a rock at the drone. He was out there fighting with his men and actually survived the bombing. They have made him a hero.

Secondly, they have shown just how much they can see from these remote devices. Just how clear the images are, they have removed their plausible deniability when it comes to shooting babies and children in the head.

Thirdly, he wasn't hiding behind "human shields" and he wasn't in a bunker or underground tunnels.

Finally, their cowardice is on show even when they remote operate a drone 🙄


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I am watching the briefing with Mathew Dracula Miller. He starts out saying how glad he is that Sinwar is dead, calling him a terrorist, same shite, different day. Halfway through this briefing he says that Blinken told Israel that he spoke with the other Arab states. They want a path forward and have a new Arab alliance to isolate Iran. Yes, because the real problem is Iran and not Israel exterminating Palestinians, looking for an Eretz Israel: Southern Lebanon, Western Jordan, parts of Syria, Gaza and the West Bank and that is just the moderate version. Miller goes on to state the benefits for the state of Israel that would bring, but of course he says "We cannot make that choice for the government of Israel or for the people of Israel." Different story for the Palestinians obviously. :rolleyes: The Arab reporter tells him the world doesn't work that way, i.e. other nations get sanctions for breaking international law *cough* Russia *cough* and the U.S. is blocking that for Israel.

The situation is beyond ceasefire, we need intervention.

In other news, Asa Winstanley of E.I. has had his home raided and electronic device seized by the cops.

https://electronicintifada.net/blog...ce-raid-home-seize-devices-eis-asa-winstanley
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Wow, we really are living in dystopian times. Wtf, that's dictator tit. America really are the bad guys, I see a civil war in their future because how the duck can they continue as they are.

Why have they targeted Asa? Other than him telling the truth? Is this to scare other truth speakers?
 
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bitterntwisted said:
I am watching the briefing with Mathew Dracula Miller. He starts out saying how glad he is that Sinwar is dead, calling him a terrorist, same shite, different day. Halfway through this briefing he says that Blinken told Israel that he spoke with the other Arab states. They want a path forward and have a new Arab alliance to isolate Iran. Yes, because the real problem is Iran and not Israel exterminating Palestinians, looking for an Eretz Israel: Southern Lebanon, Western Jordan, parts of Syria, Gaza and the West Bank and that is just the moderate version. Miller goes on to state the benefits for the state of Israel that would bring, but of course he says "We cannot make that choice for the government of Israel or for the people of Israel." Different story for the Palestinians obviously. :rolleyes: The Arab reporter tells him the world doesn't work that way, i.e. other nations get sanctions for breaking international law *cough* Russia *cough* and the U.S. is blocking that for Israel.

The situation is beyond ceasefire, we need intervention.

In other news, Asa Winstanley of E.I. has had his home raided and electronic device seized by the cops.

https://electronicintifada.net/blog...ce-raid-home-seize-devices-eis-asa-winstanley
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Absolutely disgusting I am so angry at this as a person that has worked in the press myself I find this suppression totally unacceptable.
I feel that this is further proof of the Governments complicity in these war crimes and instead of correcting the policies of the previous administration they are using strong arm tactics to intimidate journalists in an attempt to cover their tracks and keep keep their complicity private.
 
It was a foolish move to release the footage. Netanyahu was proudly claiming that he was killed "when he fled in panic from our soldiers."
A drone video of him sat alone without his men or any "human shields" to hide/protect him, and defiant in the last moments is not the image Israel should project if they want to continue the portrayal they rely on.
 
First they came for the Communists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist
Then they came for the Socialists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist
Then they came for the trade unionists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist
Then they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew
Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me.

FIRST THEY CAME
By Martin Niemöller
 
This is from 2021.

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Charlotte1993 said:
The bastards are going to get away with Genocide aren’t they ?
www.justsecurity.org

Toward a Fuller Understanding of the U.S. (and Israeli) Legal Objections to ICC Arrest Warrants for Netanyahu and Gallant, Part II

An analysis of the view that the ICC lacks jurisdiction to try Israeli nationals for conduct in the Gaza Strip.
www.justsecurity.org www.justsecurity.org
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I said from the beginning that "this" is much bigger than we realise. Our very society hangs in the balance. Either it collapses or we rebuild a better one. Genocide does not go hand in hand with a healthy, thriving society.

If the US, UK, Germany and Israel get away with this genocide they are damning us all.
 
Will this be the end of Hamas? That was the question this morning on the radio and my immediate thought was of another religious fanatic who was eliminated, his name was Jesus. Did the death of that bloke end Christianity? You can kill a man but you can't kill an idea, it's pretty bloody obvious.

So long as Western interests can turn a profit from selling bullets and bombs there will never be peace. You know it, I know it, we all bloody know it. I just wish the broken corporate media and the self-serving politicians would just stop bloody lying. It's really PISSING ME OFF. Still, it's their loss because I rarely bother listening to either of them nowadays. (I'd rather read Tattle and you good people) 😬
 
I was just having a think. Is Israel going to be put in place to run the Arab countries around Israel. May be even under occupation with the backing of the US and their backers until the region is stable.

How long has Israel had all this planned. How did they get away with separating the two areas of Palestine.


Is there any proof now that some Palestinians are related to the Semites and Canaanites with all the bloodlines that have been erased and history documents destroyed.
 
Dooley Doo said:
I was just having a think. Is Israel going to be put in place to run the Arab countries around Israel. May be even under occupation with the backing of the US and their backers until the region is stable.

How long has Israel had all this planned. How did they get away with separating the two areas of Palestine.


Is there any proof now that some Palestinians are related to the Semites and Canaanites with all the bloodlines that have been erased and history documents destroyed.
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Yeh the truth is in the small print I watched Biden when he landed in Germany he said it’s a good day bla bla bla then he said that Blinken was visiting Bibi to talk about how to secure Gaza and move on not secure Israel what does that mean for Gaza that’s the question.
His exact words
It's time for this war to end and bring these hostages home," he said. "We're going to work out what is the 'day after' now. How do we secure Gaza and move on."
 
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Charlotte1993 said:
It's time for this war to end and bring these hostages home," he said. "We're going to work out what is the 'day after' now. How do we secure Gaza and move on."
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Remember when that old dear was released by Hamas in the early(ish) days of this conflict? Remember? It was at night, a couple of cars pulled-up and some masked Hamas bods with guns handed her over? I think that really put that shits up old Bibi ... can't be having that sort of thing! What if ALL the hostages were released?!?! There would be no prexit for war! :rolleyes:
 
Ndrangheta said:
Remember when that old dear was released by Hamas in the early(ish) days of this conflict? Remember? It was at night, a couple of cars pulled-up and some masked Hamas bods with guns handed her over? I think that really put that shits up old Bibi ... can't be having that sort of thing! What if ALL the hostages were released?!?! There would be no prexit for war! :rolleyes:
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Exactly do they even want Hamas totally eliminated no weapons money in that and no Hamas means no obstacle to a two state solution
 
www.middleeasteye.net

Israel bans at least six medical aid missions from entering Gaza

Advocacy groups called decision a 'death sentence for thousands of patients', with not enough hospitals remaining in operation
www.middleeasteye.net www.middleeasteye.net

But remember, Israel is just defending itself and targeting Hamas. The act of eliminating the health network, targeting medical staff, and cutting off any medical aid to a specific people group is entirely incidental and not at all deliberate or genocidal.
 
Lammington said:
www.middleeasteye.net

Israel bans at least six medical aid missions from entering Gaza

Advocacy groups called decision a 'death sentence for thousands of patients', with not enough hospitals remaining in operation
www.middleeasteye.net www.middleeasteye.net

But remember, Israel is just defending itself and targeting Hamas. The act of eliminating the health network, targeting medical staff, and cutting off any medical aid to a specific people group is entirely incidental and not at all deliberate or genocidal.
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Biden knows that Netanyahu is a lying evil scumbag the issues is that Israel are known for their assassinations I read that JFK tried to have AIPAC registered as a foreign entity so yeh I genuinely think they’re scared of Netanyahu because mossad are terrorists in a suit and I’m not saying that the Americans are any better but I think they’re fully aware of the risk they pose.
 
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