Ioan Gruffudd and Alice Evans #139 Her tears aren't blue, they're dry & bitter, her jeers aren't true, they're lies on Twitter

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frobly-mobly said:
Happy Birthday to Ioan. I hope he has many happy and loving years with his daughters and that he can continue to create long lasting, cherished memories with them 💞

I believe there will be a successful outcome for Ioan and the two Es in time. There's still a long road ahead for them.

I don't trust her and I think she will try to interfere with the visitation and therapy. However the ramifications for her if she does this are grim. I hope the therapy helps to counteract the impact of whatever she says and does to the girls behind closed doors.

I don't believe she will ever admit to her wrong doings, she will never change. It's been a tame start but I expect some "interesting" SM posts as visitation and therapy begin. SM is where she feels she can control the narrative for her minions. She's lost control of pretty much everything else.
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She's got to get those kids to behave like hell towards him and make visitation absolutely horrendous for the next 3 months so he drops the request for joint custody.
 
NarcRage said:
She's got to get those kids to behave like hell towards him and make visitation absolutely horrendous for the next 3 months so he drops the request for joint custody.
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The issue is that it also works against her due to the extreme PA evidence and judge is more likely to remove them from her. If she wants to keep the kids then she needs to make it work over the next 3 months imo.
 
Diamonds60 said:
Oh man that is going to piss Alice off
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I truly hope B has somewhere nice to stay and hang out with friends on those holidays! ❤ Maybe next year she can spend that time with both Ioan and the girls—it would be lovely!

Alright, homies, where do we think Alice will be hiding on Christmas Eve?

1. In one of the boxed presents. 🎁
2. Pretending to be the tree (ornaments and all). 🌲
3. Santa Claus 🎅🏼
 
ReturningthePearls said:
I truly hope B has somewhere nice to stay and hang out with friends on those holidays! ❤ Maybe next year she can spend that time with both Ioan and the girls—it would be lovely!

Alright, homies, where do we think Alice will be hiding on Christmas Eve?

1. In one of the boxed presents. 🎁
2. Pretending to be the tree (ornaments and all). 🌲
3. Santa Claus 🎅🏼
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4. Stuck in the fireplace? Having tried (and failed) to climb up the chimney, she passes out drunk and covered in soot, one ribboned ankle sticking out onto the hearth.
 
I know it’s been mentioned but spotted this in my reading today (glad to get back to a place with some inter web!)

glad to see the thread up and running, missed all the nonsense!

🎂

Sorry to be a bother (been on a ship in the middle of the sea with no internet) but is anyone able to add all the latest court docs to the wiki, I’m going to attempt to catch up now I’m back in range 😊

SusieTCones said:
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We all know why this language is in the stipulation, but it cracks me up picturing Alice standing in front of a window, just GLARING and making mean faces at Ioan when he picks up the girls.

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The fact this has to be in the stipulation is a poor sign and shows the cards are going his way. The fact she even must remain out of sight. 🤣 how the mighty have fallen
 

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ReturningthePearls said:
I truly hope B has somewhere nice to stay and hang out with friends on those holidays! ❤ Maybe next year she can spend that time with both Ioan and the girls—it would be lovely!

Alright, homies, where do we think Alice will be hiding on Christmas Eve?

1. In one of the boxed presents. 🎁
2. Pretending to be the tree (ornaments and all). 🌲
3. Santa Claus 🎅🏼
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Drunk and asleep on the kitchen floor
 
BingoFlamingo said:
The fact this has to be in the stipulation is a poor sign and shows the cards are going his way. The fact she even must remain out of sight. 🤣 how the mighty have fallen
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She will be looking secretly of course.

So now we know what her 'breakdown' was over. A 'heinous' Judge allowing a father wanting to see his kids and get much needed therapy for them. BTW the therapists seems quite good on paper.
 
JoJo76 said:
I have a feeling that only little E will go to the first visit with Ioan. And if that's the case I wouldn't be surprised if Alice arranged some paps to capture it.
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that's not in her interest at all as the narrative she pushed out there is that he isnt seeing and doesnt want to see his kids. I find it way more likely that he would arrange paps (and good on him as that would kill off that lie), in which case Alice's reaction to it could be interesting as she once denied him the kids out of fear that he would call the paps (says the mother of the year that forces them on her IG)

Though of course what could be in Alice's interest is instructing the kids to act out in public, and calling for that the paps. That way the fact that he sees his kids would be overshadowed by the fact that the kids hate him, and the casual viewer of a story like this will assume that he is a tit.

I agree with you that the eldest likely doesnt want to go, and at the start there may turn a blind eye, but with time Alice will get issues for that
 
How long before Alice fucks this up for herself? She cannot interfere with contact or hand overs. She cannot listen in to therapy sessions. The fact they’re using her choice of therapist goes against her, she can’t say they’re in Ioan’s pocket.
I hope for a smooth re-unification between Ioan and his daughters, I know for sure she won’t facilitate it in any way, shape or form. She’s done this to herself. Idiot.
She’ll be getting a monitoring tag for Christmas.
 
M33L4 said:
How long before Alice fucks this up for herself? She cannot interfere with contact or hand overs. She cannot listen in to therapy sessions. The fact they’re using her choice of therapist goes against her, she can’t say they’re in Ioan’s pocket.
I hope for a smooth re-unification between Ioan and his daughters, I know for sure she won’t facilitate it in any way, shape or form. She’s done this to herself. Idiot.
She’ll be getting a monitoring tag for Christmas.
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She can’t listen in to therapy sessions… bet she’ll try, though. I’m sure the therapists will be prepared and ready to act, but she won’t be able to help herself. Any line of communication the girls have (has) with him, she’s proved that she’s been in there, domineering, manipulating, gatecrashing. There’s not a chance in hell she’ll be able to sit in that house at night knowing the girls might have exchanged messages with him, and not try her damn best to get into those phones to spy on them. She can’t even handle it when someone says something she doesn’t agree with on an insta comment! 😒
 
barre19 said:
She can’t listen in to therapy sessions… bet she’ll try, though. I’m sure the therapists will be prepared and ready to act, but she won’t be able to help herself. Any line of communication the girls have (has) with him, she’s proved that she’s been in there, domineering, manipulating, gatecrashing. There’s not a chance in hell she’ll be able to sit in that house at night knowing the girls might have exchanged messages with him, and not try her damn best to get into those phones to spy on them. She can’t even handle it when someone says something she doesn’t agree with on an insta comment! 😒
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She’ll be hollering “Do I know you??” in the background while Emma wears a body cam.
 
veevee04 said:
I know big Al is lazy as duck but seriously a job or volunteering would help her so much. Being unstimulated , lacking routine contributes so much to mental health problems. I wish the judge would order her to partake in meaningful activities tweeting or cameos doesn't count. 😂😂😂.
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It's a great idea, but she's incapable of holding down a "regular" job or volunteering. Those would require her to be accountable, show up, play nice with others, and do what she's asked to do. She'd pick fights or flounce off in a huff at the first opportunity.
 
SusieTCones said:
It's a great idea, but she's incapable of holding down a "regular" job or volunteering. Those would require her to be accountable, show up, play nice with others, and do what she's asked to do. She'd pick fights or flounce off in a huff at the first opportunity.
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She’d be like the receptionist I just spoke to, who picked up my call in *the* most monumentally arsey manner imaginable, because I had dared to, get this, dial her number. You can imagine my nerve, what with her number being the first point of contact and all.

Maybe she was having a bad day. 😉 Malice, however, is made of bad days and would be chronically incapable of doing anything resembling work in any kind of environment where she wasn’t The Most Important Person.
 
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