Ioan Gruffudd & Alice Evans #92 The Chronicles of YoBee

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And all I can think is, "How much luggage do they have?" All those cute winter coats, leather jackets, hats, and scarves--who is schlepping all their suitcases???? I am no fashion plate when it comes to travel, for sure.
cut the man some slack. he spend the past year with two outfits :ROFLMAO:

speaking of which, somebody a few pages ago was wondering what happened the day he left given that he left with few clothes: in the court papers he said he moved out on january 25, on january 25 at around 10 pm Alice announced that he had declared to leave the family next week (1st february presumably). She also mentioned on reddit that he lived at friends before moving into a house. So he probably fucked off immediately instead of waiting for "next week" after it became clear that he isnt safe with her

Ease the f@k up with the MS talk. what the hell? I have a friend in his 70s still hammering life and his career, another in his 60s going like a racehorse. I bet you anything that Bianca will be far more active at 70 than AE is at 50. I know that’s not saying much at all because AE is a lazy fekker but for Ioan it will be a huge improvement.
well, not everyone is this lucky xD
 
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Think it’s safe to say in her 50s Bianca won’t be hanging around with what will then be some has-been old geezer in his 70s. That’s when age gaps bite. I think she’ll bounce within 5 years. Do that film, work on her career and trade up. Meet someone mid-40s who’s star is rising.

IG has weighty, weighty baggage, and frankly seems a very weak character. Anyone who is purportedly that unhappy, yet is only prepared to leave once they have a soft landing sorted? Just wet.
Wow, so this has changed to a Yobee bashing huh?
Weak in what way exactly? That he broke after years of abuse and torment from someone who claimed to love him? Or weak for escaping and meeting someone who actually makes him happy?
Because I'm genuinely interested in how you can possibly cal him a weak character considering his bravery from escaping an abusive marriage. Seems to me that makes him strong. Regardless of who he is with now he is a survivor. Perhaps you would do well to remember that.

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Also.. how about we ease the f@k up with the MS talk. what the hell? I have a friend in his 70s still hammering life and his career, another in his 60s going like a racehorse. I bet you anything that Bianca will be far more active at 70 than AE is at 50. I know that’s not saying much at all because AE is a lazy fekker but for Ioan it will be a huge improvement.
Exactly. She could live for another 50 years perfectly happy and healthy. Beats drinking yourself in to an oblivion every night. I know who my money's on living longer.
 
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I disagree here tbh.

Not like she should have pretended to like them. But a good spouse would hide something like this at least away when the in-laws are visiting. It comes across as provocating.

Well it looks like far worse happened between AE and his parents than them not being on some stupid collage. Didn't AE say they were banned from visiting their house in LA for the last 4 years of the marriage because of all the arguments between her and his mum? Didn't AE maintain her MiL physically attacked her? I'm taking that with a large pinch of salt but it's possible AE shouted in her face and Gill pushed her away? Who knows? Might come out in the hearing?
 
eh, the age gaps get less noticable the older you get. Also 70 year old men, depending on lifestyle (and uh...other stuff), can be extremely fit and good looking still. If anything women sadly fade quicker.

Bianca's specific case makes it even more likely. Her life expenctancy is likely shortened by several years, bringing her close to him, and she will be seen by many potential partners as baggage with her disease. Maybe even Ioan himself, he might actually want somebody to care for him when he is 80, not the other way around.

That's the theory, obviously some of your points are correct: Ioan has extreme baggage with a hell ex-wife that has a vendetta against her and estranged children who probably are also already programmed to dislike her. If Bianca is in this for the fame (again, it really shouldnt be ruled out that this is at least a large factor) and all about living in the moment etc etc and she does come along a more famous man that is prepared to accept her illness she might bounce: it wouldnt even necessarly mean that she is fame hungry, you have to consider your options, and a younger man with much less painful baggage and the additional perk of being able to provide the same (or more) is simply the better option. The question is just if someone with her condition would get this easily someone like this, especially later on when her health becomes a bigger issue.

I personally do expect this relationship to end relatively soon (with that I mean anything between a few months and 5 years), the movie will probably be a key point. If it doesnt get made will she just accept it or try to date a man with more influence to do it? If it does get made, then what? Will she be less respectful of his wishes because she got what she wanted (again, speaking hypothetically here if that was her intenion) or perhaps drop him all together? But you can never really rule out anything, I certainly never expected him and Alice to last over 20 years lol

Also btw most men leave marriages only when there is perspective for a rebound soon, might be weak, but it's common.



Alice said the other day that the kids stay with her until they have a deal. Now whether this means she simply doesnt gives them away and Ioan doesnt want to force them and further the PA that way, but also doesnt want to wait forever in his little flat in LA for them to never come and instead uses the time to reconnect with family and friends in the UK. Or whether this means that this is an actual agreement between both parties for stability/clarity reasons is something we dont know. The former would work very badly against Alice actually. The latter wouldnt work against either (but would completely rule out a sole custody, which I'm sure he didnt want and couldnt have given that he has to earn the money)

I'm sure anything he does will be approved by his lawyer. He wanted 50-50 custody in december and when he filed for the RO he mentioned custody handovers in there too. I doubt that he suddenly changed his mind and doesnt want them at all (even if Alice claimed this the other day too, but we know her
My lovely OH and I have the same age gap and it's never ever presented a problem and he's now a silver fox and I don't love him any less 😊
He's also a damn sight fitter than me, as I said previously no one knows what is around the corner and I entered my relationship fully knowing that I could end up caring for my OH in his dotage. Never in a million years did I expect to have to rely on him!
It's impossible to predict what the future will be! When Ioan is 70 Alice will be long out of the picture and the girls will be women in their thirties probably with families of their own.

Well it looks like far worse happened between AE and his parents than them not being on some stupid collage. Didn't AE say they were banned from visiting their house in LA for the last 4 years of the marriage because of all the arguments between her and his mum? Didn't AE maintain her MiL physically attacked her? I'm taking that with a large pinch of salt but it's possible AE shouted in her face and Gill pushed her away? Who knows? Might come out in the hearing?
I'm sure I saw a post where Alice had stated that she'd wanted Ioan to send an email to his mother in her defense for something or other but Ioan refused.
 
I don't think she's met his daughters. Relentless cheerfulness is a good description. Each to their own but I find it a bit much and as you suggest, it must be for her too at times.

It’s Insta though, that’s what people do. Who knows what’s going on behind the scenes? She probably doesn’t want AE knowing she’s getting to them as it would just encourage her. I can’t imagine this isn’t traumatic for both of them, especially given TRO.
 
Well it looks like far worse happened between AE and his parents than them not being on some stupid collage. Didn't AE say they were banned from visiting their house in LA for the last 4 years of the marriage because of all the arguments between her and his mum? Didn't AE maintain her MiL physically attacked her? I'm taking that with a large pinch of salt but it's possible AE shouted in her face and Gill pushed her away? Who knows? Might come out in the hearing?
sure but then why the hell were they still visiting then?

Interestingly before he deleted his twitter Ioan's brother had a header image that didnt look very old based on the kids: 2019, 2018 at most. It featured the entire Gruffudd family and Elsie/Ella, so no Alice. Wonder if she took the picture or if she wasnt even there (no matter what year it was she was already NC if 4 years from 2021 isnt far off)
 
It’s Insta though, that’s what people do. Who knows what’s going on behind the scenes? She probably doesn’t want AE knowing she’s getting to them as it would just encourage her. I can’t imagine this isn’t traumatic for both of them, especially given TRO.
I think we've only seen a fraction of the abuse and more will be presented at the next hearing.
 
My lovely OH and I have the same age gap and it's never ever presented a problem and he's now a silver fox and I don't love him any less 😊
He's also a damn sight fitter than me, as I said previously no one knows what is around the corner and I entered my relationship fully knowing that I could end up caring for my OH in his dotage. Never in a million years did I expect to have to rely on him!
It's impossible to predict what the future will be! When Ioan is 70 Alice will be long out of the picture and the girls will be women in their thirties probably with families of their own.


I'm sure I saw a post where Alice had stated that she'd wanted Ioan to send an email to his mother in her defense for something or other but Ioan refused.
Agreed. Actor Sam Neill is 74, I believe. The guy is still handsome, fit, has a farm in New Zealand, a vineyard, still acts, is a fascinating man, with varied interests. Most single women 20 years younger, in their 50s, would be after him. Ioan is vain, keeps himself fit. I don't see any reason to believe he is going to let himself go. I mean, he's not going to be sitting in a recliner, life over.

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I think we've only seen a fraction of the abuse and more will be presented at the next hearing.
Are they still to play the audio of AE too? I bet any normal person's eyebrows would fly off their face!

Agreed. Actor Sam Neill is 74, I believe. The guy is still handsome, fit, has a farm in New Zealand, still acts, is a fascinating man with varied interests. Most single women 20 years younger, in their 50s, would be after him. Ioan is vain, keeps himself fit. I don't see any reason to believe he is going to let himself go. I mean, he's not going to be sitting in a recliner, life over.

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I kinda wanna snog the face off Bill Pullman. Don't judge me.
 
sure but then why the hell were they still visiting then?

Interestingly before he deleted his twitter Ioan's brother had a header image that didnt look very old based on the kids: 2019, 2018 at most. It featured the entire Gruffudd family and Elsie/Ella, so no Alice. Wonder if she took the picture or if she wasnt even there (no matter what year it was she was already NC if 4 years from 2021 isnt far off)

His parents were visiting LA to see him and the kids probably up to 2016 if what AE said was true. Obviously, tit then hit the fan so the only way they could see them was if the kids went to the UK. There was a more recent visit to the UK so maybe Alun's pic happened then?
 
In that case she should throw away her glue gun and stick to sketching, at least she can’t glue a doll’s head to a sketch. 😂
I was given a special clothes hanger as a present for my son’s first birthday. The metal hook was jammed through a Tellytubbie head which had obviously been snapped off a toy. The hanger itself had a knitted cover, colour to match the decapitated head. I’ve never seen them in shops - it was definitely a homemade present. Perhaps she could move into that market? 🤷🏼‍♀️ Just trying to help with ideas for her if the acting doesn’t take off again.
 
Also.. how about we ease the f@k up with the MS talk. what the hell? I have a friend in his 70s still hammering life and his career, another in his 60s going like a racehorse. I bet you anything that Bianca will be far more active at 70 than AE is at 50. I know that’s not saying much at all because AE is a lazy fekker but for Ioan it will be a huge improvement.

I love reading things like this. I too know of plenty of people who've had it for decades and are fortunate enough to be doing well. And to be fair, things have changed a lot over the last 20 years. It is a horrible disease but it is also definitely not the death sentence it once was.

That said, the fact is not even Bianca knows what she's going to be dealing with next week, never mind in 10 or 20 years time. It's why she refers to it as "a question mark". There isn't a neurologist out there who would be able to tell her exactly how her MS will affect her. She can either feel sorry for herself or live every day like it's a gift.

Just a wild guess of course but I would imagine her attitude is one of the things Ioan loves about her.
 
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Wow, so this has changed to a Yobee bashing huh?
Weak in what way exactly? That he broke after years of abuse and torment from someone who claimed to love him? Or weak for escaping and meeting someone who actually makes him happy?
Because I'm genuinely interested in how you can possibly cal him a weak character considering his bravery from escaping an abusive marriage. Seems to me that makes him strong. Regardless of who he is with now he is a survivor. Perhaps you would do well to remember that.

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Exactly. She could live for another 50 years perfectly happy and healthy. Beats drinking yourself in to an oblivion every night. I know who my money's on living longer.

Weak in that he didn’t have enough resolve to leave when he was unhappy without a new girlfriend to hold his hand and help him.

Hadn’t realised tattle was exclusively a pro-Ioan site 🙄

IG/AE relationship was evidently fucked up, you do wonder how much of AE behaviour was enabled by IG tho. 20 years smacks of codependency. And interestingly he’s swapped supporting/propping up AE who clearly has her own problems for BW who has MS and who knows what knock on psychological impact from that. I think he has to be emotionally reliant on someone who needs him.
 
Happy time: Maybe Ioan and his kids regularly talk on the phone or facetime, or send each other funny little videos. Maybe dad sends them postcards from exotic places. Maybe it's a familiar pattern they get into while he's working on location.

Sad time: Maybe there is no contact at all or it's awkward and limited.

Tattle time: Maybe we'll never know.
 
Agreed. Actor Sam Neill is 74, I believe. The guy is still handsome, fit, has a farm in New Zealand, a vineyard, still acts, is a fascinating man, with varied interests. Most single women 20 years younger, in their 50s, would be after him. Ioan is vain, keeps himself fit. I don't see any reason to believe he is going to let himself go. I mean, he's not going to be sitting in a recliner, life over.

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Sam Neill came within a nose of being James Bond in the 1980's. I think he would have been great, and I'm a big Timothy Dalton fan.
 
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