Ioan Gruffudd & Alice Evans #88 More socks than in a department store, Alice doesn't believe less is more

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Knitwit said:
I agree. One possibility is that Alice has been told by the lawyers that she is damaging Ioan's career and Ioan specifically outlined her threats to do so in his TRO evidence. She is now trying to build a defense by supporting someone who has been accused of cheating by publicly saying she is able to separate an actor's work from their personal actions, so how could she be guilty of trying to harm Ioan's career when all she is doing is 'speaking her truth'? :rolleyes:
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I think it's exactly this....now making out an actor's career and their personal lives are not related so her abuse hasn't caused career damage
 
Knitwit said:
I agree. One possibility is that Alice has been told by the lawyers that she is damaging Ioan's career and Ioan specifically outlined her threats to do so in his TRO evidence. She is now trying to build a defense by supporting someone who has been accused of cheating by publicly saying she is able to separate an actor's work from their personal actions, so how could she be guilty of trying to harm Ioan's career when all she is doing is 'speaking her truth'? :rolleyes:
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yep she totally only accused him of cheating
 
Bridgeofsighs said:
AE met IG on the set of 102 Dalmatians so OP didn't introduce them. He "had no problem with them sleeping together" because he was probably getting the ick about AE and we know he didn't want to marry her anymore. IG took AE off his hands and was therefore a godsend. (He may also have been questioning his heterosexuality at this point - we don't know). She lived off him alright but the little work she got might not have been to do with him calling in favours. I doubt it happened that way, but who knows.

He "was gay" - later on yes or he's bi both now and then.
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Either way, he must be thanking his lucky stars that he managed to offload her with absolutely no backlash on him, and she'd have been delighted to think two men wanted her at the same time. IME the only way a narc moves on is if it's their idea, and then the person they're leaving might as well not exist (until the person they leave has the temerity to find someone else)
 
Knitwit said:
I agree. One possibility is that Alice has been told by the lawyers that she is damaging Ioan's career and Ioan specifically outlined her threats to do so in his TRO evidence. She is now trying to build a defense by supporting someone who has been accused of cheating by publicly saying she is able to separate an actor's work from their personal actions, so how could she be guilty of trying to harm Ioan's career when all she is doing is 'speaking her truth'? :rolleyes:
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I did wonder if this was a salvage operation. Now I'm wondering if something is going to come out about Alice and she's testing the waters, but who knows what goes on in her head 🤪
 
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I think this is also because she has finally figured out she is a toxic substance in Hollywood. She has woken up and realised that TV is the only medium she may be considered. She knows she is not glamorous enough for a 'Real Wives' and may have twigged that Hallmark won't touch her with a barge pole (they have disconnected from Lori Loughlin). Her brand of scorched earth revenge is coming back to bite her and she is back peddling. I think the only thing that will work is a good 3 months off to rehab for 'exhaustion & mental stress'. She can come back thinner, healthier and hopefully with a better outlook (or at least more self control), do the relevant 'mea culpa's' and start working again.
I have just re-read this:unsure: This is Alice we are talking about. What the duck was I thinking?:rolleyes:
 
I agree with Alice, I as a rule separate the artist's personal life from the art, too.
I suspect, tho, that Alice wouldn't say this about Bianca's art.

With Ioan, she's in an interesting position: You can bet she wants him to fail sooooo bad with all his future projects. But that means less money for the girls and possibly herself.

Bridgeofsighs said:
AE said OP introduced them? I'm taking that with a very large pinch of salt. IG and OP were not exactly moving in the same social or work circles. I think this is her way of saying because "he introduced us" - translation - he didn't mind us shagging despite our engagement.

You always have to question AE's "truths".
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Olivier said that (see @SusanC post above).
 
BigBonedBuzzard said:
I agree with Alice, I as a rule separate the artist's personal life from the art, too.
I suspect, tho, that Alice wouldn't say this about Bianca's art.

With Ioan, she's in an interesting position: You can bet she wants him to fail sooooo bad with all his future projects. But that means less money for the girls and possibly herself.
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That’s the bit that’s always bothered me. She must realise that any loss of any future earnings affects the girls directly.
 
Bridgeofsighs said:
AE said OP introduced them? I'm taking that with a very large pinch of salt. IG and OP were not exactly moving in the same social or work circles. I think this is her way of saying because "he introduced us" - translation - he didn't mind us shagging despite our engagement.

You always have to question AE's "truths".
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I think this one is true. I'm sure it was Olivier himself who said he introduced them. And you can be totally forgiven for your scepticism. She's told so many lies I'm not sure I even believe her name is Alice at this stage!
 
SheMadeMeCry said:
Now Alice is name dropping her Ex Olivier and his Mom 🤣 what a coincidence, after reading that BW was in France with Mama and Papa G.

I just think its hilarious, the way Alice is always competing with her. Its a one sided competition though, but the smartest woman in the room is too dense to realize that
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When I see something funny on the internet I usually laugh in my head, sometimes I might give a little chuckle. But Olivier Oucassi made me laugh out loud. What a start to the day! Thanks, Alice.
 
Autisteuse said:
I think, despite everything that you're going through, you're doing fantastically well. You habe great self-awareness and grace in admitting that your coping strategies perhaps aren't the best way to go about things. And you're loved and supported by this fantastic community.
I wonder if you apply what you've learnt as a grief counsellor to yourself, it might help? Part of the problem with havimg narc parents is realising that no matter what you do, no matter how far you twist yourself into a pretzel shape trying to gain their love, acceptance and pride, that it's never going to be enough. And that's definitely no fault of ours: THEY are the ones who lack empathy and are unable to love. But it feels like a kind of bereavement to come to that realisation, and to cope with it.
Be kind to yourself. You deserve all the kindness in the world. xx
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@Autisteuse and @ReturningthePearls i had a great big message type to you guys, then it all disappeared 😡
So I will try and try again later on. I know @Autisteuse you so kindly posted to me a few threads back. I'm not forgetting I hope you don't think I'm ungrateful for your kind post.
Ive been catching up and just wanted to say to everyone who is suffering from Anxiety, on top of everything, it is just an awful thing. I suffer from anxiety myself but I'm lucky I did have a great psychiatrist (he has since moved up north) and trying varying combo's of anti depressants, pain killers, anti anxiety, anti psychotics (need their name changed IMO) but the combo of sertraline & quetiapine is working actually really quite well. Quetiapine has saved me.
Hope everyone is as ok as they can be.
Feeling the 💩Y love
Xxxx
 
Aww lovely @tilly27 you didn’t upset me at all. I didn’t think you were being nasty, I was just grateful to you for giving me a reality check on our Alice’s despicable behaviour. I was beginning to feel too much sympathy for her and not taking her actions into enough consideration. I couldn’t reply on the previous thread as it moved to fast for me 💖
 
I have just seen AE’s latest Instagram post - my take, she has been told to stop the abuse on Instagram or she will face the consequences so she is showing she is using it for more mundane things. And the post was trying to show that although she wasn’t currently working, she was still in the games and keeping her eye on the industry. Either way, it’s a positive post. Better than the usual pity me posts.
 
Alice, who never lies, after being asked 'I feel weird about watching this as Pammy actually wasn’t involved and receives no money- it somehow doesn’t feel right' Mrs Pants On Fire replies 'it took me several weeks' which I think implies she was pondering for several weeks if it was right to watch. On another post, she only watched it by 'accident'. Which one is it love ?
 
AD2018 said:
She even manages to insult Pam in a way, LJ gave her “humanity” and is more relatable than Pam herself. I understand praising LJ performance, but do you have to drag Pam down as well? Is the revisiting of her trauma not enough?

God she is such an hole

I don’t think that post has the reaction she wanted. Most people putting Pam’s view across or pointing out the hypocrisy of the LJ/DW affair

“All points of view are valid” Omg 🤣🤣🤣🤣 since when 🤣🤣🤣 trying to be like Bianca much?
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mAlice is 💯 trying to compare herself and her situation to Pam to try and redeem her terrible reputation. What a transparent fool!
 
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