Ioan Gruffudd & Alice Evans #174 Even her divorce lawyer left her.

[ButterTart]

I was listening to a podcast yesterday with an LA lawyer discussing restraining orders. He said that with family law cases, judges are usually reluctant to issue ROs until a full hearing, because too often RO applications are used by one parent to prevent the other parent having contact with their child.

I don’t know whether @ButterTart is able to confirm/correct this?

It makes sense because if you have a DVRO against you it makes it tougher to negotiate things like visitation (given that the restrained person can't go near the protected person, making child handovers more complex, for example). And if convicted, it definitely has an impact on share of custody and potentially support, among other things. So I can see why an aggrieved spouse might want to use an RO as basically a cudgel on the ex, even if the circumstances don't warrant it.

I think a judge getting up to speed on this case would see the years of acrimony, the various filings (including Alice's communications to Ioan where she basically predicted exactly what she was going to and has threatened to do), and the steps he took to protect himself, Bianca and the girls (chaperones, therapy, etc.)

 

[Ally Pally]

I'm not sure if Alice thinks it's a friendship? If so, she should be aware that Bitchoff has slid into her life on the sniff for a story, conveniently, just as it all kicked off. Beware supportive new best friends / wine pals who write for major newspapers!

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This is Alice who says this stuff all the time, she thinks coming out with crap like this gives her a stick to weild over Ioan.
The reality is someone like Boshoff would bend herself in knots to get a scoop from Ioan and she wouldn't give Alice a seconds thought.
IIt's all about the money money money
Id put money on Alice saying to Boshoff watch this space when she bumped into her!

 

[Ametrine]

Ha, I missed this:

It was Alison who first got aggressive by asking if Andrea was a troll and if she had an agenda.

Maybe she's friends with Alice because birds of a feather etc etc.

 

[AsYouLikeIt]

I do wonder if Ella would be okay if Ioan had her full time. She may be putting on an act of hating him to a certain extent because she is trying to please/placate Alice. She may not even be conscious of what she is doing. She might be fine after a few weeks of full custody with Ioan (though it would be a rocky few weeks). I could be totally wrong though.
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So the big reveal promised yesterday never happened? LMAO

Instead the glee dissipated and we got excuses instead: "The liars will have a strategy to beat the abuse claims"

Yep, they sure will mAlice. You're all talk and no trousers, or should I say no knickers?

Was Alice expecting criminal charges to be laid and Ioan/Bianca to be arrested on Monday, or something?! She is dense.

 

[MarmiteMonster]

I don’t particularly advocate for I and B to get married but can you imagine the meltdown if the press wrote about Ioan Gruffudd and his wife attending red carpet events and the wife was not Big Al.

 

[AsYouLikeIt]

I don’t particularly advocate for I and B to get married but can you imagine the meltdown if the press wrote about Ioan Gruffudd and his wife attending red carpet events and the wife was not Big Al.

I think they will get married after they are fully financially separated. I think it will take years before custody is worked out, if ever sadly. Ioan and Bianca will probably have a child together before that is sorted out fully. There will be custody orders if course, but Alice will contest them and interfere with them until both girls are 18.

 

[welshfitnessgirl]

Her latest sock for the record

Good grief

 

[Ametrine]

Was Alice expecting criminal charges to be laid and Ioan/Bianca to be arrested on Monday, or something?! She is dense.

I think she was expecting another story to appear in the Daily Mail. That's all she cares about, publicity to make Ioan look bad as part of her revenge against him.
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Andrea isn't at a law firm, and her email address isn't available publicly - you have to request it by sending her a query on her website.

So where did Alison email the documents to?

 

[BessieNessie]

It’s very odd. Is there a chance that Ioan didn’t know about the filings until the article in the Daily Mail was published? Perhaps something else was served yesterday.

 

[marjorytrashheap]

Ha, I missed this:

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It was Alison who first got aggressive by asking if Andrea was a troll and if she had an agenda.

Maybe she's friends with Alice because birds of a feather etc etc.

Oh my god, they are exactly alike. Alison is a petulant, lying child too! And also in her 50s. Unbelievable.

 

[Ally Pally]

The question is how did the article appear about the request before it was even uploaded on the court system. I think this is what Andrea was alluding to, a bit like what came first chicken or the egg Alice or the socks

 

[welp]

I don’t particularly advocate for I and B to get married but can you imagine the meltdown if the press wrote about Ioan Gruffudd and his wife attending red carpet events and the wife was not Big Al.

I'm very fearful about this tbh. It's clear to me, no matter if Ioan fights for custody (which imo he should give up on Ella for now because she will probably keep filing restraining orders, it was already in that january walkout obvious that this was the target all along) or not Alice will ultimately reach - after a short high - rock bottom again because ultimately her victim will keep standing up and live his life. The escalation will be higher and higher, until somebody dies probably.

It’s very odd. Is there a chance that Ioan didn’t know about the filings until the article in the Daily Mail was published? Perhaps something else was served yesterday.

Alice's bestie claimed when she published the article that his lawyers received the papers, but then again she is talking so much hot air lmao

The question is how did the article appear about the request before it was even uploaded on the court system. I think this is what Andrea was alluding to, a bit like what came first chicken or the egg Alice or the socks

the request was already in the court system. I mean I immediately found the case number and all after seeing the article. What wasnt in the court system are any documents with the details (e.g. that a incident happened on a visitation with Elsie), obviously papers have always their sources, but in Alison's case it was obvious who the source was. And yet she tried to pretend that she got a freelancer to pull the documents from the court (is that even possible? that its available in court, but not electronically?), but if this was the case she would have more details than this lmao (unless it's just the RO request and under "last abuse" they wrote something like "incident at fathers home while on visitation with sister"?, but normally you are writting a proper declaration)

Was Alice expecting criminal charges to be laid and Ioan/Bianca to be arrested on Monday, or something?! She is dense.

maybe to be served/arrested in Atlanta while filming to fully embarrass him lol

 

[marjorytrashheap]

I'm very fearful about this tbh. It's clear to me, no matter if Ioan fights for custody (which imo he should give up on Ella for now because she will probably keep filing restraining orders, it was already in that january walkout obvious that this was the target all along) or not Alice will ultimately reach - after a short high - rock bottom again because ultimately her victim will keep standing up and live his life. The escalation will be higher and higher, until somebody dies probably.


Alice's bestie claimed when she published the article that his lawyers received the papers, but then again she is talking so much hot air lmao

Let’s face it, Alice would rather be a widow with his pension than a divorcee.

I do wonder that if Alice wasn’t addicted to fighting on social media, would their marriage have limped on until the girls were grown up? I think it might have (although with affairs on both sides no doubt). It’s SM that she fucks herself over with every single time.

 

[Ally Pally]

I do wonder if Ella would be okay if Ioan had her full time. She may be putting on an act of hating him to a certain extent because she is trying to please/placate Alice. She may not even be conscious of what she is doing. She might be fine after a few weeks of full custody with Ioan (though it would be a rocky few weeks). I could be totally wrong though.
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Was Alice expecting criminal charges to be laid and Ioan/Bianca to be arrested on Monday, or something?! She is dense.

My two pennies worth is that Alice knew that Ioan was leaving LA to be on location and she wanted to screw with the shoot.
I doubt she thought there would be a delay in getting a hearing!
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I'm very fearful about this tbh. It's clear to me, no matter if Ioan fights for custody (which imo he should give up on Ella for now because she will probably keep filing restraining orders, it was already in that january walkout obvious that this was the target all along) or not Alice will ultimately reach - after a short high - rock bottom again because ultimately her victim will keep standing up and live his life. The escalation will be higher and higher, until somebody dies probably.


Alice's bestie claimed when she published the article that his lawyers received the papers, but then again she is talking so much hot air lmao


the request was already in the court system. I mean I immediately found the case number and all after seeing the article. What wasnt in the court system are any documents with the details (e.g. that a incident happened on a visitation with Elsie), obviously papers have always their sources, but in Alison's case it was obvious who the source was. And yet she tried to pretend that she got a freelancer to pull the documents from the court (is that even possible? that its available in court, but not electronically?), but if this was the case she would have more details than this lmao (unless it's just the RO request and under "last abuse" they wrote something like "incident at fathers home while on visitation with sister"?, but normally you are writting a proper declaration)

She's a lousier liar than Alice

 

[marjorytrashheap]

My two pennies worth is that Alice knew that Ioan was leaving LA to be on location and she wanted to screw with the shoot.
I doubt she thought there would be a delay in getting a hearing!

Oh that’s an interesting thought.

 

[MarmiteMonster]

I posted this a couple of threads back and am posting it again:

Alice's motivations with this have been to gain maximum publicity and to damage Ioan and Bianca's reputations and to get revenge on them.

If your soon to be ex-husband's girlfriend really did hurt your child, you would do everything to protect the child and you would use your lawyer to protect you and the police to press criminal charges.

• You wouldn't part ways with your fourth lawyer the day before the request for the restraining orders were filed.
  
  
• You wouldn't get your minions on Twitter to drop hints about what had happened a week before revealing it, almost revelling in the incident and full of glee about it.
  
  
• You wouldn't create sock accounts on Twitter (one of which was created in early May) to attack your ex and his girlfriend, such accounts then claiming to have the inside knowledge on what happened with the alleged assault.
  
  
• You wouldn't go to one of the biggest tabloids in the world and give them an exclusive to the journalist, a friend of yours, on what allegedly happened, with the tabloid then running it as an online front page story (coincidentally, the same day as the MS fundraiser you were convinced your ex and his girlfriend were going to be attending). You wouldn't want to open your child and your family up to that horrible level of scrutiny and gossip.
  
  
• You wouldn't send a photo of your child's injuries to a man you've never met on Twitter, to get him to post it.

And if you were in sole care of an upset 13 year old you wouldn’t spend the weekend getting wasted, raging and talking to yourself on Twitter.

 

[curious km]

Let’s face it, Alice would rather be a widow with his pension than a divorcee.

I do wonder that if Alice wasn’t addicted to fighting on social media, would their marriage have limped on until the girls were grown up? I think it might have (although with affairs on both sides no doubt).

I think that mAkice was shocked when IG finally realized that he was never gonna escape the constant cycle of insults and abuse, her spiraling alcoholism with who knows what else and that his efforts to do so for his children’s sake wasn’t helping as the children, in Big E’s case, were following her lead. No amount of affairs or drinking could hide his reality (& I suspect he DID do these things especially in early days as a coping means- they didn’t marry for a long time - I think they both probably played that dramatic game in their early years after all they started their relationship behind Oliver’s back). I think he finally realized he needed to sober up - not just from alcohol but the myth of their existence as a family she tried to force upon them - living beyond their means, with housekeepers and Nannie’s (for school age children when mAlice was a stay home mother !!), and pretending that mAlice’s outbursts and constant drama were just quirky wife moods or part of her “ailments”. He tried to get her to get healthy, get counseling and all he could before leaving. I honestly imagine his heart wasn’t in it but for his daughters sake he probably did it. And mAlice mocked him and gave it no effort. On SM she has made it clear, compromise is not in her vocabulary. Remember her email/text demanding Ioan move into garage? She for sure wanted them to stay married for benefit of her social media appearance - Ioan trapped in garage and only allowed to leave to make money for overpriced schools for her babeez and a caretaker to pull mAlice off floor every morning and do all the cooking and cleaning.

 

[AuroraBorealis]

It's raining, it's pouring,
Alice is boring.
She's scheming, conniving,
yet again failing.

 

[WinterSolstice]

@plinky2

for your complaint

1. Unethical journalism, one of the parties in the contentious divorce claims Beshoff as close personal friend ( check Alice’s wording)
2. Subject is a minor - can they give informed consent?
3. Naming an alleged victim of child abuse
4. Inaccurate reporting, orders had not been filed, only the request for them

Probably loads more?

 

[SusieTCones]

It’s very odd. Is there a chance that Ioan didn’t know about the filings until the article in the Daily Mail was published? Perhaps something else was served yesterday.

I wondered this too. Surely they know by know, right?!?

The petitioner (Ella) is required to serve papers to the respondent (Bianca/Ioan) and file proof of service with the court.

There is no proof of service filed yet as of right now. There is a deadline by which time papers must be served, but we don't know what that is.

Here's a more info on the process:

Sheriff serves your Request for a Restraining Order | California Courts | Self Help Guide

Before you start To ask the sheriff to serve your papers, you must have an address or location for the other side (restrained person). If the other side is in jail, the sheriff can serve them. If the other side is in prison in California, prison staff, not the sheriff, will serve your papers...

selfhelp.courts.ca.gov