Ioan Gruffudd & Alice Evans #153 Hagatha Crusty - Murder on the Panda Express!

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I'm not even going to bother looking today, I had a look last night and it is just getting ridiculous.. They need to stop engaging and step away instead of egging each other on.. On both sides! Someone said on here earlier they need to stick to facts and stop getting personal.


"Never wrestle with a pig. You just get dirty, and the pig likes it." 🐖
Quoting myself just to say, in my opinion, this is why it's not a great idea to bring any of their nonsense over to Tattle, unless it's a direct interaction with Alice. Both pro- and anti-Alice accounts lurk here and read what we post. We've already gotten shut down once, and I have no doubt that some of the more spiteful FMs would not hesitate to try again.

Anyway, just my 2¢ worth. Alice is toxic enough all on her own for the flaming garbage fire that is Twitter.

RIP Backyard Fence ☠
 
It doesn’t sound patronising at all, dear heart! It’s a great suggestion - although not something I could do at this moment, given that I am still stuck in the same house with my narcissistic Father until said house sells and I move north. Graham Greene said that to be a good writer, you have to ‘have a shard of ice in your heart’ - implying that you must be ruthless, even disloyal, in depicting characters based on your own experiences. I think I have that shard of ice: and a massive part of it comes from the complete lack of gratitude from those two outrageously self-obsessed individuals. I tried to help my father for more than 20 years, missing out on some amazing opportunities (being offered a job in Paris, for example): he doesn’t remember any of it and says that ‘nothing is ever done for him’. I nursed my grandmother for her last six months, givinf up my job, sleeping on her floor - and was only bullied and berated: no thanks there. When she died, and my father contrived a nervous breakdown, leaving me to make all the funeral arrangements, wind up the estate etc… you guessed it: no thanks. I think I’d turn it into a work of fiction, though - I don’t want to be sued!
Thank you for the suggestion - I really am taking it seriously. Lots of love. Xx
I think this is a really great idea from @Georgie883. It could be cathartic for you, but also as Georgie wrote, a really fascinating and educational insight which would be invaluable.
 
Oh, I don’t think they read Malice’s twitter nightmares at all - or even here. (IG, as a Gen-Xer, wouldn’t have grown up with digital devices and scrupulously guards his privacy; BW only uses her SM to support others and tell the world how fantastic IG is.) But their lawyers will have been going through Malice’s SM with a fine toothcomb, and they are dutybound, I believe, to inform IG and BW’s relentless campaign of intimidation and harassment, and the false claims she’s been making regarding Bianca. And Bianca, who is also supposed to be protected by the restraining order, will need to know when it is breached (particularly when Malice is calling BW a paedophile) so that she can decide on what legal actions to take. Lastly, Malice usually sets up her health woes to collide with visitation - thus putting IG under a lot of stress, making it impossible for he and BW to plan, and disrupting the children’s stability also. Malice is a bloody awful thing. So malicious. I loathe her profoundly.

BIB - not necessarily. I remember writing to Gill and pointing out his name and address was on the electoral roll and therefore accessible to all the 90's! 🤭
 
it's not important, just third parties going nuts on both sides :ROFLMAO:
This is such a predictable pattern - Alice only goes this nuts when she is properly cornered. She now knows she is rumbled re: the money and the lies about Ioan 'not paying' so all she can do is roll out the old faithful 'I'M ON THE EDGE, PANIC ATTACK, POOR OLE LONESOME ME, PEOPLE WANNA KILL ME, I'M GOING TO THE POLICE', she is fully in the Deflect phase, tweeting as hard as she can to try and get people to forget the actual evidence!
 
Don’t mind me, I’m just dropping in to self-shame as I think my post was before Alice’s needing a Valium to watch a match 🙈
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Quoting myself just to say, in my opinion, this is why it's not a great idea to bring any of their nonsense over to Tattle, unless it's a direct interaction with Alice. Both pro- and anti-Alice accounts lurk here and read what we post. We've already gotten shut down once, and I have no doubt that some of the more spiteful FMs would not hesitate to try again.

Anyway, just my 2¢ worth. Alice is toxic enough all on her own for the flaming garbage fire that is Twitter.

RIP Backyard Fence ☠
I apologise for mentioning it.. you're right and I'll be more mindful - sorry x
 
If Ioan asks for a mental health and alcohol/substance abuse assessment as part of the custody hearing Alice will be screwed. Its one thing being 'temporarily insane or disturbed' due to a marriage breakdown, its another to be behaving in exactly the same way 2 years down the line - with clear evidence of full access to health insurance, counselling etc during the period. The ONLY realistic hope Alice has now is getting off SM & going to rehab BEFORE the trial.
 
Alice will be massively shitting herself about the financials.

For the abuse she can blame her hurty feelings. She’s already paving the way by saying she drank when he first left and has said she’s struggled because her whole world was pulled out from under her.

However, I cannot imagine any judge is going to accept that taking money that wasn’t hers can be justified because she was upset. That would mean anyone could steal from an ex. She also had access to her own money so didn’t do it to feed her starving babies.
 
With the sad socks left on Twitter it appears they’re not even particularly interested in Alice anymore. There just making outrageous claims and attempting to dox each other.

It’s frigging hilarious 🤣
I really don't know why but your description triggered a memory (it is like bliming therapy/ hypnosis session this thread!), its not a bad memory, a good one : there was a monthly literature magazine in Soviet Union everybody were fighting to get subscription to, because they used to publish really cool writers including sneaking in Soviet dissidents, not published anywhere else. Anyhow, there was a novel, sci fi anti utopian (unlike most ani utopias it was not overly dark or cruel and I dont remember the author, could be someone from US): a bunch of space travellers arrived at an abandoned planet and found one remaining inhabitant who told them of the demise of his civilisation: the humanoids on the planet found a way to make themselves not needing any body parts and basically gradually turned into sphere of energy. But then got bored of minimalism and started adding celluloid ears of different shape and form to their energy spheres. The shape and size of ears policing caused tensions and lead to all out war and spheres exterminated each other. The final description of a battle of spheres with celluloid ears lobbing lightenings at each other have made a lasting impression on my 8-year old imagination, I thought it was so very cool (I havent yet seen Star Wars by then)
When you mentioned that Twitter war I suddenly remembered the spheres and imagined they are FMs and antiAEs, battling it out having forgotten the Mothership mAlice on the sidelines. She at the end of the Big Twitter Battle will be sitting there in emptied universe of her followers hoping random space traveller might come across her feed so she can tell him of her great twitter kingdom and how it all began….
I havent been smoking any tit today, honest! Perhaps there was something in that spelt yogurt…
Correction: I was 13! Just found the novel, it was published in 1988… ahhh…
 
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I really don't know why but your description triggered a memory (it is like bliming therapy/ hypnosis session this thread!), its not a bad memory, a good one : there was a monthly literature magazine in Soviet Union everybody were fighting to get subscription to, because they used to publish really cool writers including sneaking in Soviet dissidents, not published anywhere else. Anyhow, there was a novel, sci fi anti utopian (unlike most ani utopias it was not overly dark or cruel and I dont remember the author, could be someone from US): a bunch of space travellers arrived at an abandoned planet and found one remaining inhabitant who told them of the demise of his civilisation: the humanoids on the planet found a way to make themselves not needing any body parts and basically gradually turned into sphere of energy. But then got bored of minimalism and started adding celluloid ears of different shape and form to their energy spheres. The shape and size of ears policing caused tensions and lead to all out war and spheres exterminated each other. The final description of a battle of spheres with celluloid ears lobbing lightenings at each other have made a lasting impression on my 8-year old imagination, I thought it was so very cool (I havent yet seen Star Wars yet by then)
When you mentioned that Twitter war I suddenly remembered the spheres and imagined they are FMs and antiAEs, battling it out having forgotten the Mothership mAlice on the sidelines. She at the end of the Big Twitter Battle will be sitting there in emptied universe of her followers hoping random space traveller might come across her feed so she can tell him of her great twitter kingdom and how it all began….
I havent been smoking any tit today, honest! Perhaps there was something in that spelt yogurt…
Please send recipe for that spelt yoghurt, I want in on that trip! :ROFLMAO:
 
Alice will be massively shitting herself about the financials.

For the abuse she can blame her hurty feelings. She’s already paving the way by saying she drank when he first left and has said she’s struggled because her whole world was pulled out from under her.

However, I cannot imagine any judge is going to accept that taking money that wasn’t hers can be justified because she was upset. That would mean anyone could steal from an ex. She also had access to her own money so didn’t do it to feed her starving babies.
BIB: Alice's 'hurty feelings' do not justify her relentless and abusive responses and behavior.
 
Quoting myself just to say, in my opinion, this is why it's not a great idea to bring any of their nonsense over to Tattle, unless it's a direct interaction with Alice. Both pro- and anti-Alice accounts lurk here and read what we post. We've already gotten shut down once, and I have no doubt that some of the more spiteful FMs would not hesitate to try again.

Anyway, just my 2¢ worth. Alice is toxic enough all on her own for the flaming garbage fire that is Twitter.

RIP Backyard Fence ☠
Alice is a fire on a garbage dump sitting over a toxic waste dump site over a nuclear waste disposal site right now and the FM's are gathering close to warm their little paws :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
 
When I was young
I never needed anyone
And making love was just for fun
Those days are gone

Living alone
I think of all the friends I've known
But when I dial the telephone
Tony’s not home

Just with my fence
Don't wanna be
Just with my fence
Anymore

Just with my fence
Don't wanna live

Don't wanna live
With my fence, with my fence
Anymore
With my fence
Anymore
 
If Ioan asks for a mental health and alcohol/substance abuse assessment as part of the custody hearing Alice will be screwed. Its one thing being 'temporarily insane or disturbed' due to a marriage breakdown, its another to be behaving in exactly the same way 2 years down the line - with clear evidence of full access to health insurance, counselling etc during the period. The ONLY realistic hope Alice has now is getting off SM & going to rehab BEFORE the trial.

This. So much this.
 
Maybe talking about the whack job that lives beyond the fence 😂
Quite frankly, I would be surprised if the next restraining orders don't come from the neighbours on either side. Imagine their testimonies - 'Your Honour, I was sitting down to my dinner and all I could hear was screaming and vomiting, and then this woman was running around outside yelling about her bleeping baby angel bastard, and I heard children crying and saw them trying to drag her back inside, then she ran out again and was yelling about cheese strings and then she was out again yelling at the fence which had fallen over in the storm and shouting about squatters. Your Honour, I am honestly fearful for my safety and that of my poor old incontinent dog who unloads himself on my carpet every time the screaming starts. We are suffering from panic attacks from the relentless histrionics from this neighbour and no-longer have a fence to protect us. Please help."
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