Ioan Gruffudd & Alice Evans #148 Malice and the 102 Ailments

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AnneinHever said:
This is what I thought too. He was going around telling people he has access to information and zoom meeting with secret services, and at the same time made it very easy for anyone to find out who his actual employer was. Anyone coud have notified them about what he was doing and might now be in trouble. What an idiot, mon dieu!
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BIB - Did you mean MANGETOUT AnneinHever???

After all he does seem more Del Boy than Daniel Craig 🤭
 
plinky2 said:
She bloody loves herself
I’ve never known anyone with such an over inflated ego whilst is such a dismal failure!
She likes the adulation and narrative it brings to her story telling because she has a completely distorted view of her own self
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You haven’t met my ex, then :)
I would love, love, LOVE to get Malice in a room with Gabbie Hanna, Louise Thompson, Meghan Markle and Erika Girardi. The blend of toxic narcissism could possibly end in a Kill Bill-style massacre, or an explosion that takes out a three-block radius due to overinflated egos colliding. Honestly, why hasn’t some TV producer come up with a narc-off competition programme? It would be the *best* carcrash TV ever made (although would probably end up like Battle Royale). Whom would we pick to go on the show beside Malice?
 
Autisteuse said:
You haven’t met my ex, then :)
I would love, love, LOVE to get Malice in a room with Gabbie Hanna, Louise Thompson, Meghan Markle and Erika Girardi. The blend of toxic narcissism could possibly end in a Kill Bill-style massacre, or an explosion that takes out a three-block radius due to overinflated egos colliding. Honestly, why hasn’t some TV producer come up with a narc-off competition programme? It would be the *best* carcrash TV ever made (although would probably end up like Battle Royale). Whom would we pick to go on the show beside Malice?
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her buddy Pierce :) and yes, Meghan!
 
House of Tea said:
Alice is to blame for her marriage breakdown. Not randoms online. She is no further forward in this process. Blaming everyone else, she is the victim, rinse and repeat. Alice is a Big Problem. She is unhinged. People are free to leave relationships at any time, her ego can’t bear that she was the one who got left. She threatened to leave enough times herself. He took charge, she hates it. He lost respect for her, and once that has gone, you can’t get the love back. She now has to get more sympathisers, she is running out of them, you can feel her desperation.

I don’t know how she looks at herself in the mirror. And that is nothing to do with her appearance.
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I was thinking of this very issue yesterday in relation to my own experiences. And I’ve decided that I’m tired of subconsciously or overtly thinking of myself in ‘victim’ or ‘survivor’ terms in relation to numerous SAs, DV, r*pe etc. It happened, and it was horrendous. But it is past history. I don’t want to be thought of as ‘that poor/vulnerable/abused’ person. I want to be known for my strength, and to use that strength to build a happy, contented life.
If Alice could ever take anything from these threads, it should be this: if you place yourself firmly and permanently in the victim category, people are going to see you as vulnerable and therefore infantilise and coddle you. They won’t perceive you as an equal. If your whole identity is ‘trauma’, all the other parts of your character are blunted, eroded, even erased. With every heartbeat you are dragged closer to the limitless horizon of death; but if all you can focus on is past sadnesses, you are being dragged back and forth in time - but you are never in the present, you are not *present*.
So - I’m done with my past. Over to you, Alice Evans.

Feather fans said:
her buddy Pierce :) and yes, Meghan!
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Yesss! Piss Morgan! How could I have forgotten that bloviating fool? Trump, too, should make an appearance - oh, and Gwyneth Paltrow. Goop and Meghan can try to ‘out-kind’ one another while hissing, through ever-tighter clenched teeth, declaim all they’ve done to fight the patriarchy.
Boris Johnson should get a look-in, too. And Laurie Penny.
 
Autisteuse said:
I was thinking of this very issue yesterday in relation to my own experiences. And I’ve decided that I’m tired of subconsciously or overtly thinking of myself in ‘victim’ or ‘survivor’ terms in relation to numerous SAs, DV, r*pe etc. It happened, and it was horrendous. But it is past history. I don’t want to be thought of as ‘that poor/vulnerable/abused’ person. I want to be known for my strength, and to use that strength to build a happy, contented life.
If Alice could ever take anything from these threads, it should be this: if you place yourself firmly and permanently in the victim category, people are going to see you as vulnerable and therefore infantilise and coddle you. They won’t perceive you as an equal. If your whole identity is ‘trauma’, all the other parts of your character are blunted, eroded, even erased. With every heartbeat you are dragged closer to the limitless horizon of death; but if all you can focus on is past sadnesses, you are being dragged back and forth in time - but you are never in the present, you are not *present*.
So - I’m done with my past. Over to you, Alice Evans.


Yesss! Piss Morgan! How could I have forgotten that bloviating fool? Trump, too, should make an appearance - oh, and Gwyneth Paltrow. Goop and Meghan can try to ‘out-kind’ one another while hissing, through ever-tighter clenched teeth, declaim all they’ve done to fight the patriarchy.
Boris Johnson should get a look-in, too. And Laurie Penny.
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Alice has played being a victim her whole life, she wants to be coddled and she wants to be kept. I think she is frightened of taking responsibility for herself and that's why she's clinging on to those two girls like a lifebuoy.
 
A few people just can’t see the wood for the trees when it comes to Alice:

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They have all the evidence at their fingertips to prove that Alice has been abusive, and that her SM posts over the last 2 years have been goading, baiting, aggressive etc. All the evidence, if they’d open their eyes, to see that Ioan’s grey-rocking of Alice has enraged her, that it drives her mad that she cannot get any reaction from him. And so she escalates. All the evidence to clearly see that if anyone is employing their beloved ‘DARVO’ tactics, it’s not Ioan. Yet they still refuse to see the truth and chose to embrace the lies. Stupid barely scratches the surface.

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House of Tea said:
If AE is still doing this in 1 years time will you still be following this thread? (Assuming Ioan has his legal freedom by that time)
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I am in it with the popcorn until she is dragged kicking and screaming from the house and has to finally deal with 50% custody. I will also take a special trip across the pond to visit the Home Depot where she will eventually end up. But this won't stop - it will just get to the point where she is no longer relevant, Ioan and Bianca will have moved on significantly and Alice will just be nasty aftertaste in everyone's mouth, except for her children, who will spend the rest of their lives trying to recover from her.
 
Autisteuse said:
Does anyone else get the sense that Lupenis took an Introduction to Postmodernism course and has been shoehorning in ‘truth is relative, truth is subjective, my truth is my truth’ wherever he can? It’s as though he read an ‘Idiot’s Guide to Derrida’ and ‘Baudrillard for Dummies’, misunderstood what they were about (particularly in reference to millenia-old social structures and archetypes) and then selected certain women to be his ‘perfect victim’.
This is one of the great problems of the current age, and indeed throughout history: stupid people who have half-understood a concept and use their public platform (very limited in Lupenis’s case) to hammer in every nail they perceive. Lupenis sees Malice’s ‘plight’ as part of the great misogynist plan to demerit women everywhere. In so doing, he’s quite happy to argue that black is white - just as long as he is able to depict IG as an example of the gender-driven power-structure’s ability to victimise their female counterparts. IG thus becomes the definition of toxic masculinity; Bianca represents 1950s gender mores (vulnerable yet rapacious, passive yet a femme fatale); Malice’s femininity becomes the battleground on which Lupenis tilts his lance at the forces of oppression.
What he fails to comprehend is that there *are* absolute truths. (I hate postmodernism, by the way: it’s caused nothing but conflict, grief and collective superficiality*.) Truths that exist in physics and metaphysics, philosophy and, most pertinently, in the Law. Bleating about an apparent ‘lack of context’ (which speaks to an internal contradiction: if truth is entirely subjective, why does it need context to substantiate it?), he writes off official court documents, ignoring the fact that should IG have lied within those evidentiary pages, he could and would be imprisoned. Perjury is a real thing and is not treated lightly or glibly by justice systems around the world. Simultaneously, and hypocritically, he accepts Malice’s ‘evidence’ and ‘truth’ at face value.
All this goes to prove that he considers women, personified in Malice, as naturally weaker and in need of male protection. His internal logic is so inconsistent that it is surprising he can dress himself in the morning. If we therefore summarise Lupenis’s position: postmodernism = deconstruction of white, male, Western-dominated ideas and hegemonies. Incorporating feminism, he states that Malice’s evidence-free ‘truth’ is the literal truth because she says so and, as a victim, she is being persecuted by those masculine hegemonies. But then, swiftly skipping over feminism, he renders Malice weak and helpless in order to White Knight for her.
It must be overwhelmingly awful to live a logic- and evidence-free life.

(*Did I mention that I hate postmodernism?
Sorry for this pretty verbose analysis: Oh-for-God’s-Sake (kitten) woke me at four by killing my micellar cleansing water + cottonwool pads. Then knocked a steep pile of books on to the floor and thought it was immensely funny to jump all over them and me. Naughty little blighter.)
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This is actual perfection. Take a bow 🙌🏻
 
welp said:
she is pretty desperate: Lin & Deb said zero about how Ioan feels about the divorce. And if they mentioned in private that he is asking them on stuff on Alice ehat exactly is the issue here? lol

But see, it was so obvious that she will spin him forgiving them as proof of him spreading/approving of abuse about her, she is not very smart

I think she is scared tbh "its beneath Ioan & Bianca" etc. a clear "pls drop them its bad for me"
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he is already back to his kids lol

what she means it that he should come back to her, with Bianca's money if possible

told you she will gain confidence by him forgiving nasty people
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She said So many people came to me, about 10. Yeah that's not a lot in the grand scheme of things, quite sad actually; not that I feel sorry for her, that she's clearly driven so many people away over the years, plus her two year public melt down, and abuse of I &B. I think a lot of her "friends" after probably trying to help gave up (probably as she abused them because they were trying to help!)
And all this bollox about trying to help the kids with their dad. How about not alienate them in the first place 😡😡😡😡
 
Ally Pally said:
Alice has played being a victim her whole life, she wants to be coddled and she wants to be kept. I think she is frightened of taking responsibility for herself and that's why she's clinging on to those two girls like a lifebuoy.
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Agreed. And many people in her situation could simply change their thinking and resolve to be strong, undaunted, unbowed. But is she even capable of change? Her narcissist tendencies suggest not - because such individuals never, ever think that they are in the wrong. They’ve ossified, like a fly trapped in amber, at the age of eighteen (and their inner mental state is more like that of a three year old). The damage she is doing to those children’s mental state is so alarming. She’s done a complete 360 - claiming that she wants IG in their lives and for them to resolve the trauma (that she caused), having spent years dripping poison into their ears. And, given what we know about the state of the Gruffudd marriage from 2016 onwards, the girls would have seen the contempt, disrespect and verbal violence Alice displayed towards IG and internalised it. (A point that many people don’t seem to have considered is that the girls would have learnt, following Malice’s example, that browbeating, insults and even physical violence - as documented in the DVRO papers - is normal in relationships. Children used to domestic violence often go on to have relationships with predators and abusers when they are older, because they are *used* to abusive behaviours. The girls need counselling not only over the last two years’ shitstorm, but the alcoholism and verbal/emotional violence and manipulation Malice subjected IG to.) At this point I really do hope she loses custody. She’s an emotional vampire who is feasting off those girl’s demonstrations of affection.
 
She is deffo laying some ground work with her references to trying to rebuild the children‘s relationship with their dad and blended families. Which does mean something is going on behind the scenes. This could be her trying to save face as she capitulates or it could be to mitigate more evidence about her tit behaviour. I doubt she will keep it up, she already undermines one statement with the next.

I can’t help but picture a scene with Marie and Anne. Marie (looking exhausted and washed out) painfully explains that they have finally gotten Alice to see sense and a deal is in sight. Anne sardonically replying, “speak to Leon, there ain’t going to be a deal. You client is about to embarrass the hell out of you.“
 
Lulugrace said:
@welp

I'm pretty sure you've seen this, but just in case. This is from AEA & S&C.
Do they really think that anyone manages to get more info than you do? You are the fount of all knowledge ☮💗
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lol I dont care

I'm just a bit sceptical of people that claim insider knowledge and spy tit and then never back it up, just trust me bro vibes. I prefer facts and proofs to back up claims.

They also are too repulsive, a troll claims he is a tattle user and trolls you and then you go on a fight against tattle. Requires just a bit thinking: Texas girl (not saying its them) would pull something like this certainly, but no. It reminds me of the similar edgy subreddit mod accussing a user that wasnt all sunshine about Bianca being one former member of this thread. I dont get this obsession with tattle members, honestly lol
 
Treacletrixter said:
She is deffo laying some ground work with her references to trying to rebuild the children‘s relationship with their dad and blended families. Which does mean something is going on behind the scenes. This could be her trying to save face as she capitulates or it could be to mitigate more evidence about her tit behaviour. I doubt she will keep it up, she already undermines one statement with the next.

I can’t help but picture a scene with Marie and Anne. Marie (looking exhausted and washed out) painfully explains that they have finally gotten Alice to see sense and a deal is in sight. Anne sardonically replying, “speak to Leon, there ain’t going to be a deal. You client is about to embarrass the hell out of you.“
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She just wants to give the impression that she is being reasonable but behind the scenes she is raging and ranting.
She’s desperately trying to avoid court at all costs though because she is up tit creek and not a paddle in sight.
 
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