Holly Gabrielle #5 Still lives like a nun, doesn't allow herself any fun

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Satisfying Click said:
I don't think Holly 'forgot' to butter her toast
More weird family dynamics with the avocado thing
So help me, I would not live in a house where the parents dictate how you shower. I get people want to save money/water and don't want bathroom hoggers, but having a rule so that everyone has to turn the water off whilst they're soaping up etc. Nope. No. No. No.
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is that in her latest video?
Why is her entire family made up of control freaks?
 
xoxoxo13 said:
is that in her latest video?
Why is her entire family made up of control freaks?
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Yeah, after she showered she talked about the on/off rule in the house where they have to turn the water off in the shower if they're washing etc. I mean, how do they implement it? "Son, I noticed today that your shower ran continuously... is there something you want to tell me?"
I've just gone back to the video, she mentions it around the 7.35 mark
 
Satisfying Click said:
Yeah, after she showered she talked about the on/off rule in the house where they have to turn the water off in the shower if they're washing etc. I mean, how do they implement it? "Son, I noticed today that your shower ran continuously... is there something you want to tell me?"
I've just gone back to the video, she mentions it around the 7.35 mark
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I haven't watched her video and maybe my family had a slightly strange (COVID induced) meltdown last year, but we actually implemented a similar rule in our household. :D My brother used to shower for 15 to 20 minutes twice daily and the water would run continuously for the whole time. When I asked him what took him so long, he said he enjoys soaping himself (sounds weird, I promise it wasn't, it's late, I can't English anymore :D) and it really adds up if you do this for ten minutes and keep the water running. Also due to the construction of our house / the water pipes you would hear the water running in every room so "not listening" wasn't really an option.

That being said, I'm glad to say that we are usually able to give each other age appropriate space and freedoms. :D
 
Deeznutslol said:
I mean I completely get limiting shower time if your family literally cannot afford it, but her family are clearly loaded. It just seems like another of her mums weird controlling things.
Honestly she needs to get out of that household asap it seems really toxic!
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I believe it is a very common rule... makes sense economically and environmentally speaking
 
xekatinaz said:
I believe it is a very common rule... makes sense economically and environmentally speaking
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I’ve only really ever heard of it in the context of submariners, where they only get a few minutes of running water so they do the ’get wet, shower off, soap up, shower on, rinse off’ thing. I can see it’s a good idea but honestly, just thinking of my own shower it’d probably be more wasteful to keep turning everything on and off and readjusting the temperature. Maybe they have a fancy shower though?
 
CatCafe234 said:
I’ve only really ever heard of it in the context of submariners, where they only get a few minutes of running water so they do the ’get wet, shower off, soap up, shower on, rinse off’ thing. I can see it’s a good idea but honestly, just thinking of my own shower it’d probably be more wasteful to keep turning everything on and off and readjusting the temperature. Maybe they have a fancy shower though?
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Totally OT and of course dependent on the working state of your shower and it's ability to adjust quickly, but the amount of clean water Europeans just "pour down the drain" actually contributes to environmental issues. (Don't want to offend or criticise anyone here, just wanted to say: yeah, it is an issue. Not only moneywise, but environmentally.)
 
The rule itself is understandable but all their kids are adults, so it shouldn’t be a rule but rather common sense?
A while ago my family talked about some changes we can make to help the environment and one was to be mindful with water in the shower. I wouldn’t call it a rule though. It’s something we talked
about and agreed on but if I have a tough day I still might shower a bit longer but obviously I’m not going to get yelled at for breaking a “rule”.
Maybe Holly just worded it wrong. Or her family is even more weird than we thought
 
I think because of the combined knowledge we have of the odd family dynamic Holly’s household has, in the context this water thing seems like a control thing. Maybe in other households it’s relatively normal (like fair enough)… but in the context of the White household, with the way Caroline and Phil treat their children, it seems strange.

I think when you have your 26, 23 and 20 year old adult children living with you 24/7 the parents are bound to not understand certain boundaries. If the kids aren’t 12 it becomes difficult not to ‘parent’ your children all the time. So idk. I know they make their kids pay rent which I guess is okay although if I were a parent I would rather my kids save the money and use it to save up for a house or flat. Idk. All a bit questionable.
 
hpprotego said:
I think because of the combined knowledge we have of the odd family dynamic Holly’s household has, in the context this water thing seems like a control thing. Maybe in other households it’s relatively normal (like fair enough)… but in the context of the White household, with the way Caroline and Phil treat their children, it seems strange.

I think when you have your 26, 23 and 20 year old adult children living with you 24/7 the parents are bound to not understand certain boundaries. If the kids aren’t 12 it becomes difficult not to ‘parent’ your children all the time. So idk. I know they make their kids pay rent which I guess is okay although if I were a parent I would rather my kids save the money and use it to save up for a house or flat. Idk. All a bit questionable.
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Wait 26??? Jesus bleeping Christ. Is there some type of Stockholm Syndrome thing going on.
 
hpprotego said:
I think because of the combined knowledge we have of the odd family dynamic Holly’s household has, in the context this water thing seems like a control thing. Maybe in other households it’s relatively normal (like fair enough)… but in the context of the White household, with the way Caroline and Phil treat their children, it seems strange.

I think when you have your 26, 23 and 20 year old adult children living with you 24/7 the parents are bound to not understand certain boundaries. If the kids aren’t 12 it becomes difficult not to ‘parent’ your children all the time. So idk. I know they make their kids pay rent which I guess is okay although if I were a parent I would rather my kids save the money and use it to save up for a house or flat. Idk. All a bit questionable.
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The whole family situation gives me really odd vibes. The parents seem really controlling and you have three kids, two of whom have (or have had) eating disorders and who all seem to be suffering from a bit of failure to launch. I get that it’s not easy these days to get out there and live independently (and I want to make it clear that I’m not criticising them for still living at home) but it just seems so odd that both Emily and Holly are grads from one of the world’s top universities and yet neither of them seem to have done much with that. Not that you have to but it’s unusual? The whole family comes across as not very pleasant and as having a weirdly superior attitude about themselves but you do wonder, especially with Emily and Holly, whether that’s covering up a massive lack of self-esteem and an inability to leave the family and live their own lives. Holly especially makes me uncomfortable the way she seems to have to perform this weird ‘silly Holly’ role whenever she’s around her family - oh, look how dippy I am, I can’t even get on the right train and aren’t farts funny - and it’s all very odd. She needs to leave home and find herself but she come across as being so crushed that she doesn’t know how to.
 
hpprotego said:
I think because of the combined knowledge we have of the odd family dynamic Holly’s household has, in the context this water thing seems like a control thing. Maybe in other households it’s relatively normal (like fair enough)… but in the context of the White household, with the way Caroline and Phil treat their children, it seems strange.

I think when you have your 26, 23 and 20 year old adult children living with you 24/7 the parents are bound to not understand certain boundaries. If the kids aren’t 12 it becomes difficult not to ‘parent’ your children all the time. So idk. I know they make their kids pay rent which I guess is okay although if I were a parent I would rather my kids save the money and use it to save up for a house or flat. Idk. All a bit questionable.
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Do they really make them pay rent?
I would never do that, I can understand if the parents financial situation is not good, but that's not the case. It really says a lot about the family, in my opinion. I could understand sharing groceries expenses or bills, I would do that too if I had a job and lived with my parents. But not rent.
Why don't they move away?
 
macaroon said:
Do they really make them pay rent?
I would never do that, I can understand if the parents financial situation is not good, but that's not the case. It really says a lot about the family, in my opinion. I could understand sharing groceries expenses or bills, I would do that too if I had a job and lived with my parents. But not rent.
Why don't they move away?
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yeah I don't get it either, maybe I am biased because this is what my parents did for me, but if I was a parent who didn't need the money I would be encouraging my children to save while at home to perhaps buy somewhere else. I was good at saving so did it myself butI know some people whose parents took the "rent" and kept it in a savings account for when their children mvoed out
 
macaroon said:
Do they really make them pay rent?
I would never do that, I can understand if the parents financial situation is not good, but that's not the case. It really says a lot about the family, in my opinion. I could understand sharing groceries expenses or bills, I would do that too if I had a job and lived with my parents. But not rent.
Why don't they move away?
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Nah once I started working my parents made me pay £200 a month rent, so not a huge amount (at least where I live), but enough to cover my living cost. All my friends were/are paying a similar amount. I think it's normal. If I was living for free I'd never have moved out 😂
 
emm said:
yeah I don't get it either, maybe I am biased because this is what my parents did for me, but if I was a parent who didn't need the money I would be encouraging my children to save while at home to perhaps buy somewhere else. I was good at saving so did it myself butI know some people whose parents took the "rent" and kept it in a savings account for when their children mvoed out
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That sounds better than just taking the rent. But it would be better to make their children save the money directly like you said.
 
Holly's dad: *Knows that his daughter has suffered badly from an eating disorder for many years, to the point of getting serious health problems (no period for 7+ years), knows that his daughter has recently gotten better but probably still struggles with food and body image to some degree*
Holly's dad: *Sees his daughter making herself a nice healthy avocado toast for breakfast one morning*
Also Holly's dad: "Are you REally Going to EAT that??! Isn't it Weird to eat Avocado in the morning??"

🤦‍♀️I know we talk a lot about Holly's mom on here but omg what is wrong with this guy. How come every interaction he has with Holly is him being condescending/bitingly sarcastic/critical/belittling towards her?

But of course the real question is why Holly won't just move out already.. She is 23, she has two great degrees from world-class universities, she has her own business, probably lots of money from youtube etc, the pandemic is finally better, ... Like why not move out? Why not get some distance from that whole weird family dynamic?
 
teflonpanda said:
Holly's dad: *Knows that his daughter has suffered badly from an eating disorder for many years, to the point of getting serious health problems (no period for 7+ years), knows that his daughter has recently gotten better but probably still struggles with food and body image to some degree*
Holly's dad: *Sees his daughter making herself a nice healthy avocado toast for breakfast one morning*
Also Holly's dad: "Are you REally Going to EAT that??! Isn't it Weird to eat Avocado in the morning??"

🤦‍♀️I know we talk a lot about Holly's mom on here but omg what is wrong with this guy. How come every interaction he has with Holly is him being condescending/bitingly sarcastic/critical/belittling towards her?

But of course the real question is why Holly won't just move out already.. She is 23, she has two great degrees from world-class universities, she has her own business, probably lots of money from youtube etc, the pandemic is finally better, ... Like why not move out? Why not get some distance from that whole weird family dynamic?
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I thought it was nice to see her enjoy Avo toast instead of oats for a change !
 
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