Holly Gabrielle #4 Any excuse to take her shirt off

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ghooddayinmymind said:
Yea my friends and I have all applied for PhDs in the biology/biomedical field this year and those of us without significant lab experience were rejected before interview. Even if she ends up doing something data based you still need an interest in the research and the ‘unknown’ aspect of it whereas holly just seems to thrive off of memorising facts (like she has done for the past 5+ years); at PhD level that is literally one of the least important attributes
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And Holly has said multiple times that she doesn't particularly like labs.
 
Woosh said:
Which country are you from?
Wageningen might offer places to ''average'' students, they still are one of the top universities in several disciplines (food technology for example). The best thing about Wageningen imo is the fact they are not as grade focused as a lot of other universities, there is very personal guidance and these people do not consider grades as the holy grail.
And a masters in Wageningen takes 2 years, so enough time to learn.
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Yes, great research comes out of Wageningen but offering maters is how they fund themselves (which is ok but they don’t have the higher standards when it comes to accepting candidates)

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teflonpanda said:
Honestly I think you can study for 3 years and learn A LOT, and you can study for 5+ years and learn very little. And vice versa. The number of years is not the deciding factor imho, it's what you do in those years, how your program is structured, if the teaching is good, etc etc

But I do have trouble picturing Holly succeeding at a PhD that starts this autumn - not because her Master's was too short, but because she has basically no experience with doing actual research so far? Like, she's said she dislikes labs and everything. Though I suppose she could do a computational project for a PhD? Not sure how that works though, or if she could do sth like that straight after learning to program for her Master's project.. I just don't know enough about this stuff.

But I think we can all agree that jumping straight into a PhD might not be the best for Holly's mental health right now.
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I got into a computational chemistry phd after doing a small computational project for my integrated masters. Criteria for admission into PhD programmes varies wildy depending on the supervisor, but I don't think Holly would struggle getting a PhD with her experience (I think she even has a chance of getting into a lab based PhD programme, becuase a lot of graduating students will not have had the opportunity to work in a lab thanks to covid)

I think Holly would be unwise to begin thinking about PhD programmes when she hasn't even started her research project, becuase a research project at masters level is SO different to the labs done in the first few years of undergrad, and it gives you much more of a taste of what a PhD would be like (i.e making you think for yourself, propelling your own research)
 
teflonpanda said:
Honestly I think you can study for 3 years and learn A LOT, and you can study for 5+ years and learn very little. And vice versa. The number of years is not the deciding factor imho, it's what you do in those years, how your program is structured, if the teaching is good, etc etc

But I do have trouble picturing Holly succeeding at a PhD that starts this autumn - not because her Master's was too short, but because she has basically no experience with doing actual research so far? Like, she's said she dislikes labs and everything. Though I suppose she could do a computational project for a PhD? Not sure how that works though, or if she could do sth like that straight after learning to program for her Master's project.. I just don't know enough about this stuff.

But I think we can all agree that jumping straight into a PhD might not be the best for Holly's mental health right now.
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Yes, exactly! It's all about how the individual applies themselves and manages to balance social life and grades. I've known people in Law and Medicine who barely turned up to lectures, but on the other hand, people in less 'elite' courses like Fashion Design who were incredibly passionate about their subject, went to all of their classes and ended up with (well-deserved!!) high marks. Mental health support totally affects the way you're able to benefit from your course too - if you hit a snag in your penultimate year and aren't able to recover from it, it can be incredibly hard to bounce back.
Impostor syndrome is a nasty thing that completely kills your confidence and self-esteem. Wishing it on anyone just shows how little you know about its effects imo
 
Literally every uni uses their Masters degrees as cash cows, that's no secret lol. It doesn't invalidate the degree at all or make it easier as long as a student applies themselves and works hard. Masters degrees are hard enough anyway without this elitism.
 
ECH said:
Literally every uni uses their Masters degrees as cash cows, that's no secret lol. It doesn't invalidate the degree at all or make it easier as long as a student applies themselves and works hard. Masters degrees are hard enough anyway without this elitism.
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I used my distinction at MA to get my PhD funding so now the uni are paying me way more than it cost me to do my MA which is a nice turn of events.
 
DietGossip said:
And Holly has said multiple times that she doesn't particularly like labs.
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In one video she mentioned that she didn't feel a sense of dread towards computational biology like she did with wet lab experiments. It sounded like she was actually excited about research for once, so perhaps she has found her niche? I also hated lab work in biology, so I switched to psychology and suddenly research became more interesting for me.
 
I admire Holly for her resilience and determination with working from home and her outlook on her work seems positive.

I can’t not notice however that it’s when her vlogs become very ‘I’m so happy’ and ‘I’m doing amazing’ that she usually ends up crumbling after a month or so. She’s in a routine where she doesn’t allow herself time to think. There will be a down-heartened/low mood video explaining why she’s been so down (after having such an emotional high) and she will say she’s considering therapy.

If Holly actually slowed down a bit more in her day to day life and not structure her day like she’s a robot then she might actually work through her emotions and keep on top of them a bit better.
 
Summary of her lastest video:

  • Family: tbh I skipped over this bit of the video
  • Realised she doesn't have to share everything online (good! I really don't think influencers need to share all their life online). From the way she talked I think this stemmed from when she posted her binge eating video?
  • "toxic relationship" with instagram (specifically stories), realised she didn't have to have posts on her ig stories 24/7
  • Communication with real people: She often created bad scenarios in her head which prevent her from opening up to other people. She's realised that opening up can be a good thing
  • Not eveything she does has to be for a tick on a to-do list: slowing down and not running herself into the ground, allowing herself to watch netflix/meditate/listen to a podcast without scheduling it in to her life. Feels a lot more balanced as a result
From the sound of things, I am wondering if she is seeing a therapist without sharing that fact. I have never dealt with a therapist, but these all seem like changes to help her balance her life more, which I am sure a therapist would suggest she should do? This would also correspond with her second point about not sharing everything she does in her videos.
 
Not going to lie, lots of Hollys revelations/realisations seem like ones you have when you’re legit 16.

1. Spending time with family and wanting independence is something you usually (in most, not all cases) go through in your teens.... by the age of 23 you have been away from home and have accepted that you’re independent. I don’t think Cambridge did Holly any favours here. She would get over homesickness and be back home the week it was okay.

2. not overposting or over sharing on social media is a conversation you would literally have with your parents at the age of 12.

3. Instagram and the toxic relationship? Like just don’t post? And?

4. Understanding how to socialise properly. Again, something you tend to develop properly in your teens..... something Holly never has done.

5. The to do list thing....... it’s something I think Holly has struggled with for a long time. And in my opinion, thats not something that’s solved in a video. You don’t just iron out a controlling impulsive behaviour in the space of a few months. And she still makes extensive to do lists with the tiniest tasks on???? So idk.

Sort of just seems like a bit of an empty video? Like we have heard it all before so now show us you’re actually acting on those ‘things that changed your life’.... because tbh, Holly really isn’t okay.

Oh and it’s also now known knowledge she reads/has read here. It seems a few of her deep chat videos always reference ‘hate’. Get over it Holly, I’m sorry, but get over it. Don’t want people to make assumptions? Then don’t post your life online at all.
 
CalatheaLater said:
Summary of her lastest video:

  • Family: tbh I skipped over this bit of the video
  • Realised she doesn't have to share everything online (good! I really don't think influencers need to share all their life online). From the way she talked I think this stemmed from when she posted her binge eating video?
  • "toxic relationship" with instagram (specifically stories), realised she didn't have to have posts on her ig stories 24/7
  • Communication with real people: She often created bad scenarios in her head which prevent her from opening up to other people. She's realised that opening up can be a good thing
  • Not eveything she does has to be for a tick on a to-do list: slowing down and not running herself into the ground, allowing herself to watch netflix/meditate/listen to a podcast without scheduling it in to her life. Feels a lot more balanced as a result
From the sound of things, I am wondering if she is seeing a therapist without sharing that fact. I have never dealt with a therapist, but these all seem like changes to help her balance her life more, which I am sure a therapist would suggest she should do? This would also correspond with her second point about not sharing everything she does in her videos.
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She does sound like she’s been speaking to a therapist. It was in one of the goals she set for the year too. Hopefully she is as I think she’ll benefit from at least talking things over with someone that’s not in her family.
 
Huh I was not expecting that video but I mean, good for her! It all sounds like really good and sensible changes (going off you guys' summaries, I haven't watched it myself yet). But still, part of me is always a bit sceptical when someone is like "hooray I figured my mental health out on my own in three easy steps and I'm all good now!" Idk just from my own experience it's often not that easy and more 'superficial' changes like taking more time off, while good, are often not enough over the long term.

Basically I just hope that this is not similar to 2017 Holly proclaiming "I self-cured my eating disorder over the summer by going vegan, I'm fine now!!" Cause we all know that this was wishful thinking more than anything else. I just hope I'm wrong/too cynical and this time around Holly is really getting better.

Also it's perfectly understandable if she doesn't want to mention on the internet that she's seeing a therapist - but I still thinki it could be really beneficial for her viewers if she did mention it? If she is in fact seeing one, that is. Lots of her viewers are younger and look up to her and have plenty of issues of their own (if the comments she got on that 'binge eating' video were anything to go by, for example).
 
teflonpanda said:
Huh I was not expecting that video but I mean, good for her! It all sounds like really good and sensible changes (going off you guys' summaries, I haven't watched it myself yet). But still, part of me is always a bit sceptical when someone is like "hooray I figured my mental health out on my own in three easy steps and I'm all good now!" Idk just from my own experience it's often not that easy and more 'superficial' changes like taking more time off, while good, are often not enough over the long term.

Basically I just hope that this is not similar to 2017 Holly proclaiming "I self-cured my eating disorder over the summer by going vegan, I'm fine now!!" Cause we all know that this was wishful thinking more than anything else. I just hope I'm wrong/too cynical and this time around Holly is really getting better.

Also it's perfectly understandable if she doesn't want to mention on the internet that she's seeing a therapist - but I still thinki it could be really beneficial for her viewers if she did mention it? If she is in fact seeing one, that is. Lots of her viewers are younger and look up to her and have plenty of issues of their own (if the comments she got on that 'binge eating' video were anything to go by, for example).
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Totally agree. Sort of like the boy who cried wolf situation? We have seen Holly go through so many emotional breakdowns over the years and it’s a cycle. It becomes hard to believe her ‘5 things that changed my life’ have actually changed her life when there’s little shift in her behaviour. She’s changed tiny things, and 5 simple steps will not ‘cure’ your mental health.

It’s like she’s trying to find the answer to mental well-being as if she’s answering an exam or essay question.
 
hpprotego said:
Totally agree. Sort of like the boy who cried wolf situation? We have seen Holly go through so many emotional breakdowns over the years and it’s a cycle. It becomes hard to believe her ‘5 things that changed my life’ have actually changed her life when there’s little shift in her behaviour. She’s changed tiny things, and 5 simple steps will not ‘cure’ your mental health.

It’s like she’s trying to find the answer to mental well-being as if she’s answering an exam or essay question.
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that is a very good explanation, I totally agree, she seems to view it as something that will be easily solved with just a few concrete steps, when in reality it is a lot more long term and holistic than that
 
emm said:
that is a very good explanation, I totally agree, she seems to view it as something that will be easily solved with just a few concrete steps, when in reality it is a lot more long term and holistic than that
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And also if you have profound issues needs professional help. I totally agree that it's her decision to share if she is seeing a therapist, but I find it quite a dangerous image to project for her younger followers. Some issues need help and I think that's an important message to put out there (when you choose to talk about your mental health struggles and solutions). There is a reason people train years and years to become therapists etc.
 
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