Holly Gabrielle #4 Any excuse to take her shirt off
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3littlekittens
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Is Holly in a one year master's? In the States pretty much all master's are 2-3 years. That's why I assumed she would spend the next academic year doing her project, and apply to a PhD for September 2022.
caterday28
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3 years for a BS and 1 for MSc ?
Is this system for real?
How come they don’t all suffer from imposter syndrome ?
Let’s not get into university wars here. These courses are intense, especially at the top unis Holly’s been to. Just because it’s shorter doesn’t mean the content isn’t covered as well as a longer degree programme in the US/elsewhere.
Some graduates do have imposter syndrome but it’s unlikely to be down to lack of subject knowledge.
ghooddayinmymind
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Yea my friends and I have all applied for PhDs in the biology/biomedical field this year and those of us without significant lab experience were rejected before interview. Even if she ends up doing something data based you still need an interest in the research and the ‘unknown’ aspect of it whereas holly just seems to thrive off of memorising facts (like she has done for the past 5+ years); at PhD level that is literally one of the least important attributesI’d be surprised if she did get a PhD offer from anywhere considering her lack of any lab experience but stranger things have happened
marmalade1
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I feel like if Holly was interviewing for PhDs, writing applications etc we would know about it, basing off what she did for her Masters applications
I’m just gonna say it’s no wonder her only offers were Wageningen and ucl
Higher ed research is one of my side interests so if there are any international forums (other than reddit) debating degrees and such please let me know.
Btw here is a very interesting article
The great university con: how the British degree lost its value
Never before has Britain had so many qualified graduates. And never before have their qualifications amounted to so little.
www.newstatesman.com
Nevertheless, I’ve been following Holly since she got into Cambridge and I’ve been also checking the NatSci curriculum and what other students are doing and where they are now.
So to conclude, I do believe her masters is a cash grab (as most masters are).
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NotAnArtist
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Those are great unis though. And at least for the BSc, part of the reason it only takes 3 years at European universities with a few exceptions) is that US students spend about a year ticking off general ed requirements that an IB or an equivalent diploma typically cover... as far as I know, the UK one year degrees also run for an actual calendar year, which the one year degrees in the NL wouldn't. (so the NL Masters would be worth 60 ECTS, but the British one might convert to slightly more)
In any case... we don't need to go there and act like Holly, or anyone, *should* be experiencing imposter syndrome. Some could certainly do with a bit of humility and need to recognize their privilege, but imposter syndrome can feel a surely paralyzing. The shame and anxiety never stop, and it just seeps into everything, from work/life balance and self-esteem, to body image and interpersonal relationships.
Deeznutslol
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Man said no wonder her only offers were Wageningen and UCL
I dunno how else to react here other than... what on earth are you on about?
pineappleclassics
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honestly have always been so confused about holly's masters degree, i just finished a masters in cancer research and it was 100% lab-based work with no tutorials/lectures or anything but the stuff she's doing just sounds like what we were learning in undergrad?? idk anything about the uni but the course seems a bit odd to me...
maybe that's the only side of holly we see because she focuses her videos on that side of stuff
The thing is, everyone who applies to Wageningen gets an offer. In my country it’s common knowledge that the average students go there
-yes they publish great research but masters is how the institution funds itself.
And let’s not forget UCLs involvement in the Macchiarini scandal.
And then there is the issue that there is little info concerning the cancer MSc curriculum.
honestly nobody commented the fact that she goes on about programming in her insta post but she shows just..a photo?
-yes they publish great research but masters is how the institution funds itself.
And let’s not forget UCLs involvement in the Macchiarini scandal.
And then there is the issue that there is little info concerning the cancer MSc curriculum.
honestly nobody commented the fact that she goes on about programming in her insta post but she shows just..a photo?
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nissigossips
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I’m just gonna say it’s no wonder her only offers were Wageningen and ucl
Higher ed research is one of my side interests so if there are any international forums (other than reddit) debating degrees and such please let me know.
Btw here is a very interesting article
The great university con: how the British degree lost its value
Never before has Britain had so many qualified graduates. And never before have their qualifications amounted to so little.
Nevertheless, I’ve been following Holly since she got into Cambridge and I’ve been also checking the NatSci curriculum and what other students are doing and where they are now.
So to conclude, I do believe her masters is a cash grab (as most masters are).
Again, let's not get into university wars... We get it, you think your country's higher ed system is better than Britain's. That's not the general consensus though
The reason why UK degrees are shorter than their US counterparts is because we specialise earlier. By 16 we're only studying three subjects. At university we only study the one. There are pros and cons of each system, but that is why UK students can have an MSc in 3+1 years and have covered the same content.
nissigossips
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There's true discussion centred around Holly, and then there's "3 long year degrees are awful and everyone who does one deserves imposter syndrome!", and I think you know which path you've gone down.
teflonpanda
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Honestly I think you can study for 3 years and learn A LOT, and you can study for 5+ years and learn very little. And vice versa. The number of years is not the deciding factor imho, it's what you do in those years, how your program is structured, if the teaching is good, etc etc
But I do have trouble picturing Holly succeeding at a PhD that starts this autumn - not because her Master's was too short, but because she has basically no experience with doing actual research so far? Like, she's said she dislikes labs and everything. Though I suppose she could do a computational project for a PhD? Not sure how that works though, or if she could do sth like that straight after learning to program for her Master's project.. I just don't know enough about this stuff.
But I think we can all agree that jumping straight into a PhD might not be the best for Holly's mental health right now.
But I do have trouble picturing Holly succeeding at a PhD that starts this autumn - not because her Master's was too short, but because she has basically no experience with doing actual research so far? Like, she's said she dislikes labs and everything. Though I suppose she could do a computational project for a PhD? Not sure how that works though, or if she could do sth like that straight after learning to program for her Master's project.. I just don't know enough about this stuff.
But I think we can all agree that jumping straight into a PhD might not be the best for Holly's mental health right now.
xoxoxo13
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Again, let's not get into university wars... We get it, you think your country's higher ed system is better than Britain's. That's not the general consensus though
Can we not get into stupid country wars either.
Which country are you from?
Wageningen might offer places to ''average'' students, they still are one of the top universities in several disciplines (food technology for example). The best thing about Wageningen imo is the fact they are not as grade focused as a lot of other universities, there is very personal guidance and these people do not consider grades as the holy grail.
And a masters in Wageningen takes 2 years, so enough time to learn.
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