Harry & Meghan #405 Harry, you've got the wrong number!

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This is quite twisted but what if KC knew it was inevitable that PA was going to feature on this release, probably even knew that Fergie was going to be named as well, and invited them on the Christmas walk so to show that even after his mother's passing he was supporting his brother as much as he could until it became impossible. This would allow to shut those calling him vindictive for being jealous of PA (and the attention TQ always had for him) and moving on with all he had planned all along to do - get him out of Royal Lodge, taking all access to public events, etc.
 
FrancesDundee80 said:
This is quite twisted but what if KC knew it was inevitable that PA was going to feature on this release, probably even knew that Fergie was going to be named as well, and invited them on the Christmas walk so to show that even after his mother's passing he was supporting his brother as much as he could until it became impossible. This would allow to shut those calling him vindictive for being jealous of PA (and the attention TQ always had for him) and moving on with all he had planned all along to do - get him out of Royal Lodge, taking all access to public events, etc.
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Although I'm of the opinion that Andrew and Fergie don't need to live in a huge house they are used to that lifestyle and where can they feasibly go? If they are forced to move elsewhere then they'll have to have some protection given to them because they will be targets. The King can't tell his brother to go and live somewhere unsafe and risk him being attacked, kidnapped or bumped off. That would certainly rebound on him. It's a tricky one.

The public would be much happier to see both Andrew and Harry lose their power by being removed from the line of succession, the royal family website and possibly losing their titles and their positions as CoS. Where they choose to live is then irrelevant.
 
Scotch Mist said:
Although I'm of the opinion that Andrew and Fergie don't need to live in a huge house they are used to that lifestyle and where can they feasibly go? If they are forced to move elsewhere then they'll have to have some protection given to them because they will be targets. The King can't tell his brother to go and live somewhere unsafe and risk him being attacked, kidnapped or bumped off. That would certainly rebound on him. It's a tricky one.

The public would be much happier to see both Andrew and Harry lose their power by being removed from the line of succession, the royal family website and possibly losing their titles and their positions as CoS. Where they choose to live is then irrelevant.
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I agree with you. They should move to a small house or apartment in either Windsor or KP, where they can be safe. I also agree, that he should be moved from the website (along with the Harkles) and CoS (along with Harry). The LoS I don't know how it works. Because you can take them officially but then if some catastrophe was to happen they may come to claim it back - the history of Monarchies all over Europe is made of these kind of things.

This is where I don't understand the Narcs and big egos: in PA's situation, I would be 100% embracing the opportunity to become invisible. Even if innocent - I would fight it legally, but be socially transparent. But PA and Fergie keep wanting to be in public eye to feed their egos.
 
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You have to wonder if anyone else is being bankrolled. And by whom. :unsure:
 
FrancesDundee80 said:
I agree with you. They should move to a small house or apartment in either Windsor or KP, where they can be safe. I also agree, that he should be moved from the website (along with the Harkles) and CoS (along with Harry). The LoS I don't know how it works. Because you can take them officially but then if some catastrophe was to happen they may come to claim it back - the history of Monarchies all over Europe is made of these kind of things.

This is where I don't understand the Narcs and big egos: in PA's situation, I would be 100% embracing the opportunity to become invisible. Even if innocent - I would fight it legally, but be socially transparent. But PA and Fergie keep wanting to be in public eye to feed their egos.
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I don't understand narcs either. Meghan is definitely a major narcissist and Andrew and Harry probably are as well. Andrew should be happy to retire now as he's not poor and certainly won't be facing financial hardship.

This guy does short videos analysing the Harkles and Meghan's nonsensical word salad with are quite interesting to watch (also good because they're brief:




 
Scotch Mist said:
I don't understand narcs either. Meghan is definitely a major narcissist and Andrew and Harry probably are as well. Andrew should be happy to retire now as he's not poor and certainly won't be facing financial hardship.

This guy does short videos analysing the Harkles and Meghan's nonsensical word salad with are quite interesting to watch (also good because they're brief:




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he realy doesn't like her.
 
Who’sYerDaddy said:
Hey all. Been listening to a 3-hr long X spaces discussion about JE & all kinds of stuff. (My mind is officially blown!)
Anyway, just got done & saw this. Not sure from when, where, or what, but duck me runnin’! Why does she stand like that?!?!
Oh. Wait. 🦀
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She looks like the Ho she is. Plus I love that none of the unwashed hordes behind her are the slightest bit interested in her 😂😂😂😂😂
 
FrancesDundee80 said:
I agree with you. They should move to a small house or apartment in either Windsor or KP, where they can be safe. I also agree, that he should be moved from the website (along with the Harkles) and CoS (along with Harry). The LoS I don't know how it works. Because you can take them officially but then if some catastrophe was to happen they may come to claim it back - the history of Monarchies all over Europe is made of these kind of things.

This is where I don't understand the Narcs and big egos: in PA's situation, I would be 100% embracing the opportunity to become invisible. Even if innocent - I would fight it legally, but be socially transparent. But PA and Fergie keep wanting to be in public eye to feed their egos.
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Not KP, too many other members of the RF either live there or have offices there and it’s almost an “official residence.”
Windsor is too important a residence.
Best place would be a small house on Sandringham where he can potter around and ride his horse. And Fergie can’t easily get to tv studios, night clubs, wine bars etc so won’t be in the public eye so much.
 
TheCutiePatootie said:
I am convinced there will be a third, fourth, fifth, sixth accuser.... and people will still give him the benefit of the doubt

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so let me just stay on topic from now on.
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I don't think anybody's giving him the benefit of the doubt, but logically you have to ask what Johanna Sjoberg was there for? What was she paid $200 a session for? Dictation, research? She was 20 and could have got a job elsewhere though earning far less money.
It seems strange to me that although she knew the score, we're hearing stuff like this as though she was 6 years old? Defending PA doesn't come into it, but this was something Johanna and VG probably did every day as a way of life but it's only big news because it's PA.
It wasn't illegal, they were consenting adults, and though the girls concerned had been seedily recruited or trafficked it wasn't by PA. I don't understand what's going on here, I'm not defending PA but everything seems to be on its head.
I'm waiting for a revelation that Big Billy Clinton made free with a puppet of Creepy Grandma Hillary and a 12-year old girl. That would be evil.
 
Cinnamon.girl said:
I don't think anybody's giving him the benefit of the doubt, but logically you have to ask what Johanna Sjoberg was there for? What was she paid $200 a session for? Dictation, research? She was 20 and could have got a job elsewhere though earning far less money.
It seems strange to me that although she knew the score, we're hearing stuff like this as though she was 6 years old? Defending PA doesn't come into it, but this was something Johanna and VG probably did every day as a way of life but it's only big news because it's PA.
It wasn't illegal, they were consenting adults, and though the girls concerned had been seedily recruited or trafficked it wasn't by PA. I don't understand what's going on here, I'm not defending PA but everything seems to be on its head.
I'm waiting for a revelation that Big Billy Clinton made free with a puppet of Creepy Grandma Hillary and a 12-year old girl. That would be evil.
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I think who they are/what they were paid is relevant for the courts. They looked underaged and I saw nowhere them claiming they were asked how old they were, nor that PA - nor Fergie - asked for guarantees that the girls hanging around were of legal age. For the UK, the thing should be: a guy that used his title to gain access to parties filled with girls giving massages organised by shady billionaire that would then try and influence politicians is fit to represent the UK? Is he fit to be paid by British taxes, to have security, to have any privileges? No.

As for the Clintons: were any of them fit to have a spot on US politics. Maybe not. Regardless if the girls were not underaged, just wanted the money.

Also, girls from challenging economical background that are used as prostitutes, even if willing, are not un-abused. Rich men using money to take advantage of girls/women looking for better economical situation, are not saints nor free of being judged - if not by law, by ethics.

ETA: Do you know what I am sure Johanna and VG never had? A father who was a respected member of Hollywood, who worked is ass off to pay for them to study in private schools and attend a private University and then do an internship at an US Embassy. That kind of choice, they never had.
 
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