Harry and Meghan #31 Preach and Screech continue to leech

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This person is supposidly friends with mm disgusting😠. Sorry, didn't mean for this post to join on with my previous post. Hate how that happens.

 
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that really is the greatest gift Kate has given William; a happy family life.
Money and all the privileges William was born into; cannot buy the happiness Kate and his children have given him. I actually think William had a very emotionally hard childhood, at least since his parent’s marriage went sour.
Diana was very loving but emotionally needy.
And William, being that bit older, had to shoulder pretty much all of it, to support his mum and be far more exposed to the fall out of his parents divorce than harry.so on paper,you could be forgiven for expecting William to show more personal impact than he does. He has managed to navigate his way through it all,why can’t Ginge!
 
that really is the greatest gift Kate has given William; a happy family life.
Money and all the privileges William was born into; cannot buy the happiness Kate and his children have given him. I actually think William had a very emotionally hard childhood, at least since his parent’s marriage went sour.
Diana was very loving but emotionally needy.
You've hit the nail on the head. William not only had the same trauma as Harry in terms of losing his mother, but he had the extra burden - and I think that is how he perceived it - of being in direct line to the throne. Yes, he got lots of attention, but it must have been utterly stifling to be told from the year dot that he wasn't ordinary like other children and therefore needed to heed this, that and the other stricture. Most young children just want to fit in and be like other children.

But as @Campagne says, even if Diana hadn't died when she did, I think his childhood was marred by his mother's inappropriate behaviour with him. For example, she not only allowed her differences with their father to be known to her sons, but actively encouraged them to engage, for example sharing her feelings. It's well-known that she'd confide her troubles to William and become emotionally distraught to the point she'd lock herself away and William would push tissues under the door to his crying mother. As well as parental alienation, i.e. bad-mouthing Charles, it's probable that William was left in no doubt that he was expected to take sides, namely with his mother. I guess Diana's famous silent treatment or some other guilt trip would have been the alternative.

It's bad enough for a child when their parents split up amicably, but when there's animosity, children can suffer horribly unless the adults behave sensibly. This wasn't William's experience and not only that: his parent's relationship breakdown was played out publicly and a lot of dirty washing was aired: tampon-gate, squidgy-gate, Will Carling, Oliver Hoare, James Hewitt etc. And poor bloody William was being used as a mini-adult throughout it all.

Putting aside the distress and confusion he must have experienced, children don't have the emotional maturity to understand the dynamics of all that tit, and where they fit into it. What the duck? By today's standards at least, it'd be considered emotional abuse. Thank goodness William was away at school a lot of the time.

I'm not sure how Harry fitted in to the scenario. Despite H's trauma about his mother's death, nothing much has been said about how H was influenced during the many years - most of his life really - of the War Of The Wales'. W and H seem like chalk and cheese, though it's reported that when W was very small, he was the more out-going and boisterous of the two. That changed when Diana sacked their nanny Barbara Barnes because she was jealous of W's love for her. Apparently after that W became much more introverted. William seems more serious, thoughtful and empathetic. H isn't any of those things and I don't think he'd have been able to fulfil his mother's emotional needs. Coupled with H being younger and used to not having to toe the line because he wasn't going to be king, I suspect H got a free pass and William got the crappy end of the stick.

How difficult it must have been for W to carry all that distress, guilt and ambivalence throughout his childhood and later years. Happily he seems to have benefited from whatever therapy he received: the poor bugger must have had to work hard at it though. And as @Campagne says, with Kate and her family, and now Kate and William's own family, W must feel like he's safely in harbour.

Here's a wee snippet from when I was in my late twenties / early thirties and all the drama described above was going on. At the time, I lived in Kensington and worked just off Kensington High Street. My hairdresser was within spitting distance of Kensington Palace, and during my many hours in the salon chair with my bonce covered in foils, me and my hairdresser had plenty of time to chat, often about the contents of that week's sleb mags such as Hello! We'd put the world to rights on people's clothes, hair-dos and choice of partner, as well as the latest Charles and Diana goss.

At that time Diana was perceived in the press as the beautiful wronged woman, while Charles' name was mud as was Camilla's. The hairdresser's and my convos were along those lines and on one occasion the boys' names came up and I said they were better off at school during their parents' tit-show. The hairdresser lowered his voice, glanced around the salon, and told me that some of his clients worked at the palace. And that one of them had mentioned that William's school - he was at Eton at the time - had told the palace that he was often in a great deal of distress, crying and saying he hated his mother.

That poor, poor wee boy. It probably sounds sacrilegious but in some ways it's a good job Diana died when she did, otherwise the damage to William could never have been unravelled.
 
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I never noticed before but seriously....does she walk like that all the time? It's really, really odd!

She certainly did when exiting the garden party for Prince Charles’s 70th

And William, being that bit older, had to shoulder pretty much all of it, to support his mum and be far more exposed to the fall out of his parents divorce than harry.so on paper,you could be forgiven for expecting William to show more personal impact than he does. He has managed to navigate his way through it all,why can’t Ginge!
I always thought it was very unfair of Diana to lean so heavily on and disclose so much to William during her marital troubles. Very poor parenting. @Toto is spot on, above.
 
Very good article by the Express - refreshing to see some actual journalism going on.

Travalyst isn't a charity but has nonetheless been given unrestricted funds from The Royal Foundation.

Naughty step for RF Trustees for nodding that through.

Travalyst is a stupid idea and a vanity project for the Duke and Duchess of Private Jets. It needs to be self-funded not take nearly 300k of cash that deserving charities could use.
 
Didn’t mecow make a Nasty reference to the Cambridge’s children running about with bare feet ?
Reportedly called them feral.
No, I have no link to this claim.:rolleyes: It was posted about 15 threads ago.

Yes, I remember this. She described them as feral.

It was allegedly during her - secretly-recorded - screaming fit about Archie not getting a title, and following Kate's (who else?) children's woodland garden appearing at the Chelsea Flower Show where the Cambridge kids were capering about. George and Charlotte were playing and dangling their bare feet in the stream, and Louis was filmed walking in public for the first time (with shoes on!) with a huge grin on his face while brandishing a bloody great stick while William grinned at him with such love on his face. No wonder it enraged her!

What's that saying? "The best revenge is living a happy life." The Cambridges don't need to posture a la M, but just be themselves.

Thank you.(y)
 
You've hit the nail on the head. William not only had the same trauma as Harry in terms of losing his mother, but he had the extra burden - and I think that is how he perceived it - of being in direct line to the throne. Yes, he got lots of attention, but it must have been utterly stifling to be told from the year dot that he wasn't ordinary like other children and therefore needed to heed this, that and the other stricture. Most young children just want to fit in and be like other children.

But as @Campagne says, even if Diana hadn't died when she did, I think his childhood was marred by his mother's inappropriate behaviour with him. For example, she not only allowed her differences with their father to be known to her sons, but actively encouraged them to engage, for example sharing her feelings. It's well-known that she'd confide her troubles to William and become emotionally distraught to the point she'd lock herself away and William would push tissues under the door to his crying mother. As well as parental alienation, i.e. bad-mouthing Charles, it's probable that William was left in no doubt that he was expected to take sides, namely with his mother. I guess Diana's famous silent treatment or some other guilt trip would have been the alternative.

It's bad enough for a child when their parents split up amicably, but when there's animosity, children can suffer horribly unless the adults behave sensibly. This wasn't William's experience and not only that: his parent's relationship breakdown was played out publicly and a lot of dirty washing was aired: tampon-gate, squidgy-gate, Will Carling, Oliver Hoare, James Hewitt etc. And poor bloody William was being used as a mini-adult throughout it all.

Putting aside the distress and confusion he must have experienced, children don't have the emotional maturity to understand the dynamics of all that tit, and where they fit into it. What the duck? By today's standards at least, it'd be considered emotional abuse. Thank goodness William was away at school a lot of the time.

I'm not sure how Harry fitted in to the scenario. Despite H's trauma about his mother's death, nothing much has been said about how H was influenced during the many years - most of his life really - of the War Of The Wales'. W and H seem like chalk and cheese, though it's reported that when W was very small, he was the more out-going and boisterous of the two. That changed when Diana sacked their nanny Barbara Barnes because she was jealous of W's love for her. Apparently after that W became much more introverted. William seems more serious, thoughtful and empathetic. H isn't any of those things and I don't think he'd have been able to fulfil his mother's emotional needs. Coupled with H being younger and used to not having to toe the line because he wasn't going to be king, I suspect H got a free pass and William got the crappy end of the stick.

How difficult it must have been for W to carry all that distress, guilt and ambivalence throughout his childhood and later years. Happily he seems to have benefited from whatever therapy he received: the poor bugger must have had to work hard at it though. And as @Campagne says, with Kate and her family, and now Kate and William's own family, W must feel like he's safely in harbour.

Here's a wee snippet from when I was in my late twenties / early thirties and all the drama described above was going on. At the time, I lived in Kensington and worked just off Kensington High Street. My hairdresser was within spitting distance of Kensington Palace, and during my many hours in the salon chair with my bonce covered in foils, me and my hairdresser had plenty of time to chat, often about the contents of that week's sleb mags such as Hello! We'd put the world to rights on people's clothes, hair-dos and choice of partner, as well as the latest Charles and Diana goss.

At that time Diana was perceived in the press as the beautiful wronged woman, while Charles' name was mud as was Camilla's. The hairdresser's and my convos were along those lines and on one occasion the boys' names came up and I said they were better off at school during their parents' tit-show. The hairdresser lowered his voice, glanced around the salon, and told me that some of his clients worked at the palace. And that one of them had mentioned that William's school - he was at Eton at the time - had told the palace that he was often in a great deal of distress, crying and saying he hated his mother.

That poor, poor wee boy. It probably sounds sacrilegious but in some ways it's a good job Diana died when she did, otherwise the damage to William could never have been unravelled.
You're right, poor poor boy (not in money sense, obviously!). If anybody had something to moan about, it would be William. All the responsibility, the burden from a very early age, and that's before any of Diana's antics, and then losing her. Yes, "the job" certainly comes with perks, they will never go hungry and lose the roof above their heads - BUT the irony of being the heir and then the King, and at the same time not being the master of your own life...Harry always had more freedom just by simply NOT being so close to the throne. He could have had a reasonably easy life...
 
You've hit the nail on the head. William not only had the same trauma as Harry in terms of losing his mother, but he had the extra burden - and I think that is how he perceived it - of being in direct line to the throne. Yes, he got lots of attention, but it must have been utterly stifling to be told from the year dot that he wasn't ordinary like other children and therefore needed to heed this, that and the other stricture. Most young children just want to fit in and be like other children.

But as @Campagne says, even if Diana hadn't died when she did, I think his childhood was marred by his mother's inappropriate behaviour with him. For example, she not only allowed her differences with their father to be known to her sons, but actively encouraged them to engage, for example sharing her feelings. It's well-known that she'd confide her troubles to William and become emotionally distraught to the point she'd lock herself away and William would push tissues under the door to his crying mother. As well as parental alienation, i.e. bad-mouthing Charles, it's probable that William was left in no doubt that he was expected to take sides, namely with his mother. I guess Diana's famous silent treatment or some other guilt trip would have been the alternative.

It's bad enough for a child when their parents split up amicably, but when there's animosity, children can suffer horribly unless the adults behave sensibly. This wasn't William's experience and not only that: his parent's relationship breakdown was played out publicly and a lot of dirty washing was aired: tampon-gate, squidgy-gate, Will Carling, Oliver Hoare, James Hewitt etc. And poor bloody William was being used as a mini-adult throughout it all.

Putting aside the distress and confusion he must have experienced, children don't have the emotional maturity to understand the dynamics of all that tit, and where they fit into it. What the duck? By today's standards at least, it'd be considered emotional abuse. Thank goodness William was away at school a lot of the time.

I'm not sure how Harry fitted in to the scenario. Despite H's trauma about his mother's death, nothing much has been said about how H was influenced during the many years - most of his life really - of the War Of The Wales'. W and H seem like chalk and cheese, though it's reported that when W was very small, he was the more out-going and boisterous of the two. That changed when Diana sacked their nanny Barbara Barnes because she was jealous of W's love for her. Apparently after that W became much more introverted. William seems more serious, thoughtful and empathetic. H isn't any of those things and I don't think he'd have been able to fulfil his mother's emotional needs. Coupled with H being younger and used to not having to toe the line because he wasn't going to be king, I suspect H got a free pass and William got the crappy end of the stick.

How difficult it must have been for W to carry all that distress, guilt and ambivalence throughout his childhood and later years. Happily he seems to have benefited from whatever therapy he received: the poor bugger must have had to work hard at it though. And as @Campagne says, with Kate and her family, and now Kate and William's own family, W must feel like he's safely in harbour.

Here's a wee snippet from when I was in my late twenties / early thirties and all the drama described above was going on. At the time, I lived in Kensington and worked just off Kensington High Street. My hairdresser was within spitting distance of Kensington Palace, and during my many hours in the salon chair with my bonce covered in foils, me and my hairdresser had plenty of time to chat, often about the contents of that week's sleb mags such as Hello! We'd put the world to rights on people's clothes, hair-dos and choice of partner, as well as the latest Charles and Diana goss.

At that time Diana was perceived in the press as the beautiful wronged woman, while Charles' name was mud as was Camilla's. The hairdresser's and my convos were along those lines and on one occasion the boys' names came up and I said they were better off at school during their parents' tit-show. The hairdresser lowered his voice, glanced around the salon, and told me that some of his clients worked at the palace. And that one of them had mentioned that William's school - he was at Eton at the time - had told the palace that he was often in a great deal of distress, crying and saying he hated his mother.

That poor, poor wee boy. It probably sounds sacrilegious but in some ways it's a good job Diana died when she did, otherwise the damage to William could never have been unravelled.

i Heard a lot of Diana’s emotional “dependence” on William I think after she died.
Apparently the papers were banned from their prep school.
Also when at Eton; William didn’t invite C or D to the 4th of July celebrations, but instead Tiggy Legge-Bourke.
When he got married, he invited his house master, Dr Gailey and Barbara Barnes, his nanny.
I think being part of the Middleton Family, from a relatively young age (19/20), and also helping bereaved families as part of his search and rescue job, would have also contributed towards his emotional healing.

Harry on thé other hand , was a bit like Princess Margaret, allowed to party and be wild. He actually said in the documentary commemorating Diana’s death, that she had said; “do what you like, just don’t get caught”
 
I never noticed before but seriously....does she walk like that all the time? It's really, really odd!
Yep, she pushes her pelvic area forward. Invitation ? :m
It's so weird, she did that same walk when wearing her green goblin outfit at the Commonwealth service and it just added to the horror of the whole look.
I think it's a balance issue, but it beggars belief that she had 'model' on her CV when she can barely walk the length of herself without looking like a freak.
 
Very good article by the Express - refreshing to see some actual journalism going on.

Travalyst isn't a charity but has nonetheless been given unrestricted funds from The Royal Foundation.

Naughty step for RF Trustees for nodding that through.

Travalyst is a stupid idea and a vanity project for the Duke and Duchess of Private Jets. It needs to be self-funded not take nearly 300k of cash that deserving charities could use.
And the Travalyst head office in London is under construction, according to yankee Wally video
 
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