Harry and Meghan #128 One two three four, throw the traitor out the door.

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Chita said:
So that stuff in Earl Spencer's speech at Diana's funeral about blood family making sure her boys would be brought up how she wanted etc, etc, etc was basically bollox and Harry and William didn't see the Spencers for dust?

Or is it just the children of Charles Spencer's first wife they've had nothing to do with?

Must admit i'm not up to speed with that.
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Spencer's 1st wife lived in South Africa and bought the kids up there as far as I'm aware. He didn't give his daughter away either.
 
This may be a stupid question but ...

If Archie was a surrogate birth and the Palace Firm knew from the start, why did they have to go along with pretending he was born of the body?

There were no signatures on the traditional official announcement easel which is what alerted many people to think something wasn't right.
So they could have just issued a vague well wishing statement to the media when he was born to go with the unsigned notice saying they send best wishes to H and and M and their new addition to the family.
 
Chita said:
Been missing since Thursday I think.






When the Queen goes to Balmoral, who goes with her? Just staff? Or do some family members go with her for the whole time?
And do the other family members visit while she's there? Do they take it in turns to spend time with her there?

This year is her first without the Duke of Edinburgh, so i'm hoping she has some company other than staff.
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Different family members go up for different weeks from memory, they try to overlap if necessary as a lot of planning for the future year is done while they are in Balmoral - hence all the lovely pics when the DoE passed of all the great grandchildren together.
 
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3 months after meeting fuckwit. I know I'm repeating myself but something smells so fishy -- and it isn't Smeggy's minge. That just smells like nuclear waste
 
ChipDex said:
Well, yes. According to the Express it was inspired by Kate's and Grace Kelly's. Smeggy won't like that. 🤣🤣🤣

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Lady Kitty Spencer wedding dress inspired by Kate Middleton

LADY KITTY SPENCER yesterday married millionaire tycoon Michael Lewis in Rome. The thirty-year-old stunned in a white lace Dolce and Gabbana gown.
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It was never better put, than by a lovely Tattler recently, who described that the Smeg dress "was made of concrete"
I still chuckle over that description, Genius Tattler, put your paw in the air, like you just don't care! And remind us all who crafted these fine words. I salute you 🌭
 
Chita said:
This may be a stupid question but ...

If Archie was a surrogate birth and the Palace Firm knew from the start, why did they have to go along with pretending he was born of the body?

There were no signatures on the traditional official announcement easel which is what alerted many people to think something wasn't right.
So they could have just issued a vague well wishing statement to the media when he was born to go with the unsigned notice saying they send best wishes to H and and M and their new addition to the family.
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It's not a stupid question. Minge was pretending to be pregnant and there was no talk of a surrogate either then or now. She "carried" Farch and it is this charade that the Palace went along with because they had no choice. They turned a blind eye and let them get on with it, but didn't let them know that they knew. It was a pragmatic decision.
We still don't known if there was a surrogate but I really doubt it. Minge wanted Farch to seem to have been born of her body with NoBalls as the father in order to get titles, money and a LOS place. However when he was born in secretive circumstances with no witnessing doctor the RF drew the line with the birth announcement and it was vague and not according to normal protocol.
In think Farch was put on the LOS for the time being to avoid a row at the time, but will be removed later under cover of Charles pruning the Monarchy. Lil will never be on it.

This interests me a lot because of the huge fraud they pulled off on the public.
 
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Remember that they spent almost zero time with the family after Eugenie’s wedding, went to no family functions or holidays, and she “retired” from public events in January. It’s not inconceivable that no one in the family set eyes upon her in person from October to May. Other than the christening, polo, and TTC, she would not have seen them again before the “escape” to Canada in November
 
Chita said:
This may be a stupid question but ...

If Archie was a surrogate birth and the Palace Firm knew from the start, why did they have to go along with pretending he was born of the body?

There were no signatures on the traditional official announcement easel which is what alerted many people to think something wasn't right.
So they could have just issued a vague well wishing statement to the media when he was born to go with the unsigned notice saying they send best wishes to H and and M and their new addition to the family.
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I don't think that they realised that the pregnancy was fake at first. Why would they. The family don't all live in one house and may not see each other all the time. Meghan said she was pregnant and they believed her.

It's difficult to know when they must've become suspicious. She turned down the Queen's doctors and decided that they were going to pay for everything to be done their way. That may have been accepted by the Queen and Charles at face value because it was up to the Harkles after all. Although up to then they had been spending like crazy and Smeggy had a load of expensive designer maternity clothes paid for by Charles.

Did a member of staff unearth the secret or the secret service? We'll probably never know exactly when the family found out that they were using a surrogate and Smeg was using a fake bump.

Obviously the family decided to protect the Harkles. That's why they were allowed to say that they had chosen for their child not to have a title.

Personally I think this is the main reason they quit as royals. Smeg had pretended to be pregnant to get the titles and her plan failed. That’s why she hates them.

The royal family are probably aware that she faked the second pregnancy too. LiliBucks is not going to be added to the line of sucession and it's got nothing to do with having a christening in the UK. Of course the sugars will believe that is the reason and the RF are being racist but anyone with a brain knows better.
 
TMZ saying lilibet is nowhere to be seen on the Line of Succession list -

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Prince Harry, Meghan Markle's Daughter Lilibet Still Not Recognized By Royals

Nearly 2 months after the birth of Prince Harry and Meghan Markle's daughter ... she's still MIA from the official Royal line of succession.
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Er, Lilibet is nowhere to be seen - literally.

So instead of spinning their headlines to make it sound like the Royal family are being nasty, how about doing some journalism and investigating some news on Lilibet's existence.
Nobody has clapped eyes on her!
How about writing some articles about THAT!


And she can't just be included in the line of successsion because Meghan and Harry want her to be.

Meghan doesn't always get what meghan wants.

Manifesting sounds great in theory but if one person manifests Lili being put onto the succesion list and another manifests just as strongly for Lili not to be on the list what does the universe do about that then?
They can't both happen.

Scotch Mist said:
I don't think that they realised that the pregnancy was fake at first. Why would they. The family don't all live in one house and may not see each other all the time. Meghan said she was pregnant and they believed her.

It's difficult to know when they must've become suspicious. She turned down the Queen's doctors and decided that they were going to pay for everything to be done their way. That may have been accepted by the Queen and Charles at face value because it was up to the Harkles after all. Although up to then they had been spending like crazy and Smeggy had a load of expensive designer maternity clothes paid for by Charles.

Did a member of staff unearth the secret or the secret service? We'll probably never know exactly when the family found out that they were using a surrogate and Smeg was using a fake bump.

Obviously the family decided to protect the Harkles. That's why they were allowed to say that they had chosen for their child not to have a title.

Personally I think this is the main reason they quit as royals. Smeg had pretended to be pregnant to get the titles and her plan failed. That’s why she hates them.

The royal family are probably aware that she faked the second pregnancy too. LiliBucks is not going to be added to the line of sucession and it's got nothing to do with having a christening in the UK. Of course the sugars will believe that is the reason and the RF are being racist but anyone with a brain knows better.
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This all makes good sense to me.
She hates them because they found out her lies and told her to go.
And she had to go before she was able to get everything she wanted.
And a thwarted narcissist is gonna kick off big time.




When was Harry spotted with the black eye and bruises?
 
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Scotch Mist said:
I don't think that they realised that the pregnancy was fake at first. Why would they. The family don't all live in one house and may not see each other all the time. Meghan said she was pregnant and they believed her.

It's difficult to know when they must've become suspicious. She turned down the Queen's doctors and decided that they were going to pay for everything to be done their way. That may have been accepted by the Queen and Charles at face value because it was up to the Harkles after all. Although up to then they had been spending like crazy and Smeggy had a load of expensive designer maternity clothes paid for by Charles.

Did a member of staff unearth the secret or the secret service? We'll probably never know exactly when the family found out that they were using a surrogate and Smeg was using a fake bump.

Obviously the family decided to protect the Harkles. That's why they were allowed to say that they had chosen for their child not to have a title.

Personally I think this is the main reason they quit as royals. Smeg had pretended to be pregnant to get the titles and her plan failed. That’s why she hates them.

The royal family are probably aware that she faked the second pregnancy too. LiliBucks is not going to be added to the line of sucession and it's got nothing to do with having a christening in the UK. Of course the sugars will believe that is the reason and the RF are being racist but anyone with a brain knows better.
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I seem to remember seeing in all the gossip that one of H&M's staff had seen the fake bump lying on the bathroom floor at Frogmore, and at some point had told the BRF. I think there was a screen shot of it shared here in one of the H&M threads.
 
Chita said:
TMZ saying lilibet is nowhere to be seen on the Line of Succession list -

amp.tmz.com

Prince Harry, Meghan Markle's Daughter Lilibet Still Not Recognized By Royals

Nearly 2 months after the birth of Prince Harry and Meghan Markle's daughter ... she's still MIA from the official Royal line of succession.
amp.tmz.com amp.tmz.com



Er, Lilibet is nowhere to be seen - literally.

So instead of spinning their nasty headlines to make it sound like the Royal family are being nasty, how about doing some journalism and investigating some news on Lilibet's existence.
Nobody has clapped eyes on her!
How about writing some articles about THAT!


And she can't just be included in the line of successsion because Meghan and Harry want her to be.

Meghan doesn't always get what meghan wants.

Manifesting sounds great in theory but if one person manifests Lili being put onto the succesion list and another manifests just as strongly for Lili not to be on the list what does the universe do about that then?
They can't both happen.




This all makes good sense to me.
She hates them because they found out her lies and told her to go.
And she had to go before she got what she wanted.

And a thwarted narcissist is gonna kick off big time.
When was harry spotted with the black eye and bruises?
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I think she fled (on a budget flight don't forget) because the RF asked for a DNA sample to prove A is their child because they discovered about the surrogacy. A was already on the LoS by then so what would have happened if A wasn't proved to be their child I don't know.

I also suspect that L won't be on the LoS until DNA is supplied and possibly even proof that PWBW gave birth - which is unlikely given current relations.

I think there is pressure from PWB and wife to get L on the LoS hence all of the stories, but until everything is done properly she won't be added.

They've really not learnt that trying to pressure the RF through press stories don't work. I'm guessing that that's the only was they can communicate with the RF if no one is taking their calls.

I also think the photo of PWB with a black eye and bruising was photo shopped.
 
YeltsinsTank said:
I seem to remember seeing in all the gossip that one of H&M's staff had seen the fake bump lying on the bathroom floor at Frogmore, and at some point had told the BRF. I think there was a screen shot of it shared here in one of the H&M threads.
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I thought I had read all these threads from the first one - when I discovered them there were a lot of threads to catch up on and I did my best to read everything - but I missed that little diamond!!!
 
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