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ChubClubThug said:
she's so childish and selfish. She's like a 12 year old who wants to be a youtuber. She's playing house in filth and squalor. I don't know what her mental age is, but she's not fit to be a mother. She just sits there eating and browsing the Internet. Those kids are shoved on their games and stuck in front of the tv. I think that baby is delayed due to their neglect. You could see her trying to get up when she was stuck on her back in the travel cot. I bet they don't interact with her at all when the camera is off.

How on earth did Ellie break her walker? Was she in it at the time??? And that's why she's keeping them in separate rooms? So many questions. She clearly loves the children but she doesn't have the mental capacity or energy to keep them safe. She's lazy and selfish to go with it. How can their family stand by and see them like this.

I know someone with learning difficulties who got pregnant by an absolute creep who run off when he found out she was pregnant. She was neglectful and selfish like Katie and had her kid taken away by the social. She didn't live in filth and squalor like the uptons either! She had elderly parents, but their health was too poor to take the kid on, who doesn't have additional needs like their kids either. I can't believe what I'm seeing tbh.
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Did you hear her say Si would have her constantly pregnant when she was talking about her PCOS 🤢 I think he’s more a father figure than a husband and probably very controlling she’s such a low IQ she wouldn’t realize what’s happening, would love to know if her parents and brother have the same genetic condition? It seems really strange that her family wouldn’t encourage them to stay closer when they know how limited she is.
 
monga said:
Did you hear her say Si would have her constantly pregnant when she was talking about her PCOS 🤢 I think he’s more a father figure than a husband and probably very controlling she’s such a low IQ she wouldn’t realize what’s happening, would love to know if her parents and brother have the same genetic condition? It seems really strange that her family wouldn’t encourage them to stay closer when they know how limited she is.
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He makes me feel gross he's deffo a "check his hard drive" scenario, with his computer obsession. They're so seedy. I think he encourages her to walk around half naked and over eat. It is weird. The whole set up is weird. You get these creepy men who dominate women by making them have kid after kid. It's a form of abuse when she's not able to make an educated choice about her own body.

Some of the things she's said about Ellie putting her hands down her nappy and acting inappropriately has made me cringe and wonder what goes on. The whole house just gives a sinister vibe to me. Like the way Simon always wants them to cuddle each other for the camera. It's so fake. They also leave a blurring square on sometimes where they forget to remove it. Makes me wonder what they were trying to blur out. Because they have shown school badges and their arses multiple times. And how Jack lost 2 stone just because she was away for a few days having a baby! Really off!
 
ChubClubThug said:
He makes me feel gross he's deffo a "check his hard drive" scenario, with his computer obsession. They're so seedy. I think he encourages her to walk around half naked and over eat. It is weird. The whole set up is weird. You get these creepy men who dominate women by making them have kid after kid. It's a form of abuse when she's not able to make an educated choice about her own body.

Some of the things she's said about Ellie putting her hands down her nappy and acting inappropriately has made me cringe and wonder what goes on. The whole house just gives a sinister vibe to me. Like the way Simon always wants them to cuddle each other for the camera. It's so fake. They also leave a blurring square on sometimes where they forget to remove it. Makes me wonder what they were trying to blur out. Because they have shown school badges and their arses multiple times. And how Jack lost 2 stone just because she was away for a few days having a baby! Really off!
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Maybe now SS are involved something might change? She said social workers don’t come to their neck of the woods but I’m surprised the schools haven’t flagged stuff even the drastic weightloss and lack of cleanliness must make someone wonder, surely??
 
monga said:
Maybe now SS are involved something might change? She said social workers don’t come to their neck of the woods but I’m surprised the schools haven’t flagged stuff even the drastic weightloss and lack of cleanliness must make someone wonder, surely??
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I'm from Wales and the social services are absolutely shocking. They do need reporting. I think it would take someone to voice their concerns that they were being neglected. I don't trust the officers that go in the houses, a lot of the time they turn a blind eye. There's been kids being physically abused and starved that were failed 😕
 
ChubClubThug said:
That's all the silent tattle lurkers looking at her burger nips she keeps flashing 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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Definitely their best engagement yet 😂
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The baby has got the defective gene like the other two
 

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ChubClubThug said:
Oh no poor thing. What does that mean for her? Will she have the same health problems? We've been saying something is wrong with her development 😐
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They just got word back from the geneticist they had her tested when she was born, they won’t know how badly she’ll be affected until she’s a bit older Katie said it doesn’t matter they’ll cope as they have with the others 😬 they have to take her to the paediatrician for more assessments but Katie said she could have it mild like her 😳 you can tell the baby is really delayed physically , her eyes are an odd shape etc so who knows how it will go.
 
monga said:
They just got word back from the geneticist they had her tested when she was born, they won’t know how badly she’ll be affected until she’s a bit older Katie said it doesn’t matter they’ll cope as they have with the others 😬 they have to take her to the paediatrician for more assessments but Katie said she could have it mild like her 😳 you can tell the baby is really delayed physically , her eyes are an odd shape etc so who knows how it will go.
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I can see all of those kids ending up in care in the not too distant future. I can't believe it's taken this long to get answers! I would be hounding them. They probably see ££ signs because that means more disability claims if Lillie is mentally and physically disabled. My god they can't look after themselves, let alone 3 high needs kids 😳
 
ChubClubThug said:
I can see all of those kids ending up in care in the not too distant future. I can't believe it's taken this long to get answers! I would be hounding them. They probably see ££ signs because that means more disability claims if Lillie is mentally and physically disabled. My god they can't look after themselves, let alone 3 high needs kids 😳
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They’re really struggling with Jack atm I can see the same with Ellie once she hits the teenage yrs and becomes truly unmanageable,Both Katie and Si are too physically unfit to care for them let alone their own mental delays making it more challenging, she said her mum works as a court clerk so she must only carry the gene? Unless it’s her dad she’s inherited it from ? She never mentions if her brother also has her condition but it must be a very strong mutation if three of the four kids are affected.
 
monga said:
They’re really struggling with Jack atm I can see the same with Ellie once she hits the teenage yrs and becomes truly unmanageable,Both Katie and Si are too physically unfit to care for them let alone their own mental delays making it more challenging, she said her mum works as a court clerk so she must only carry the gene? Unless it’s her dad she’s inherited it from ? She never mentions if her brother also has her condition but it must be a very strong mutation if three of the four kids are affected.
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Yeah there's no way they can run after Ellie she's already escaping from rooms and running off. It's really weird isn't it. I don't know anything about the condition she has. Did she say it was rare? I know some genetic conditions can skip generations. You would think that the whole family would have been tested. I think cai has mild learning difficulties too. But he will end up caring for all of them sadly.


She's really sulky with Jack, she always makes comments about his behaviour, you'd think she'd be more understanding. But she's really childish when he apparently "plays up".

Simon must have learning difficulties too he struggles to spell etc. He doesn't seem to grasp how serious and vulnerable they are either 🥴
 
ChubClubThug said:
Yeah there's no way they can run after Ellie she's already escaping from rooms and running off. It's really weird isn't it. I don't know anything about the condition she has. Did she say it was rare? I know some genetic conditions can skip generations. You would think that the whole family would have been tested. I think cai has mild learning difficulties too. But he will end up caring for all of them sadly.


She's really sulky with Jack, she always makes comments about his behaviour, you'd think she'd be more understanding. But she's really childish when he apparently "plays up".

Simon must have learning difficulties too he struggles to spell etc. He doesn't seem to grasp how serious and vulnerable they are either 🥴
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She named the condition ( Katie style) 🙄 I think Cai has ADHD tbh Simon seems to be on the autistic spectrum.She seems to have a very short fuse .
 
ChubClubThug said:
Oh my life the sunburn on Lillie's arms and legs!!! She's red raw 😵😵😵 wtf!!

I've just been reading about the condition and I can't help but feel sorry for them 😢 but so crazy to keep having kids when you can't cope with them.
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That’s why I wondered if the whole family were affected, you’d think with her LD they would’ve encouraged her to think before having children or maybe sought medical intervention when she was younger so that pregnancy was impossible, seems harsh to say that but looking at how the children are neglected it would’ve been better all round as this is a lifetime’s work with very little outside help.
 
monga said:
That’s why I wondered if the whole family were affected, you’d think with her LD they would’ve encouraged her to think before having children or maybe sought medical intervention when she was younger so that pregnancy was impossible, seems harsh to say that but looking at how the children are neglected it would’ve been better all round as this is a lifetime’s work with very little outside help.
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totally agree …. She definitely should have had her tubes tied, yes it’s a harsh but so much better than bringing innocent children who have genetic problems into the world that you can’t cope with.
 
Itsmethatlikesamoan said:
totally agree …. She definitely should have had her tubes tied, yes it’s a harsh but so much better than bringing innocent children who have genetic problems into the world that you can’t cope with.
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I think they keep having kids because he's a creep with a fetish, and they know they can claim disability benefits for them.

More comments about how he likes her hair long... the state of it though 🤮 they keep Ellies hair really long, she looks like the girl who climbs out the TV in the film The Ring, it's an absolute mess 🥴

I saw some comments from Katie on a forum, about potty training her 7 year old and 2 year old. I don't think she's tried that hard with Jack. Rather than ask him and take him to the toilet (because that would involve actually getting up off her fat arse) she just sticks a nappy on him!
 
ChubClubThug said:
I think they keep having kids because he's a creep with a fetish, and they know they can claim disability benefits for them.

More comments about how he likes her hair long... the state of it though 🤮 they keep Ellies hair really long, she looks like the girl who climbs out the TV in the film The Ring, it's an absolute mess 🥴

I saw some comments from Katie on a forum, about potty training her 7 year old and 2 year old. I don't think she's tried that hard with Jack. Rather than ask him and take him to the toilet (because that would involve actually getting up off her fat arse) she just sticks a nappy on him!
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He seems to have regressed as he’s got older don’t know if it’s because they don’t do anything with the kids so he used to staying inside ? He seems to be very upset and worried over everything, she said he hates water and getting bathed yet loved the hot tub when they stayed in Scotland? I think they can’t fulfill all their potential because of how limited they are themselves 🙁
 
monga said:
He seems to have regressed as he’s got older don’t know if it’s because they don’t do anything with the kids so he used to staying inside ? He seems to be very upset and worried over everything, she said he hates water and getting bathed yet loved the hot tub when they stayed in Scotland? I think they can’t fulfill all their potential because of how limited they are themselves 🙁
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Yeah that was odd. It makes me think they have used water or the bath as a punishment or something has happened. If you dont like water, it will not matter the source, you just won't go near it if you are afraid.

I know with certain conditions you can regress, but he just doesn't seem happy at all 😕 I do hope the social worker picks up on all of this.

I didn't like how she said cai seems upset since they came back either and won't say. There's something so off about that house it gives me the creeps!
 
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