Ex - Slimming World Disordered Eating Recovery

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WhatABore said:
The PT was quite good with the calories in my opinion and used a tdee calculator and body fat percentage to work it out.
When weight loss came to a standstill and calories were already low, they would advise to up them for a month, and slowly decrease them again to kick start the body.
And it worked.

So to me, the explanation sounded logical.
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Your PT knew what he was doing in this instance. Upping your calories like he did for a month and then lowering again as you said yourself - worked.

A persons metabolism does slow of they eat too little as the body tries to conserve energy.
Obviously eventually you will lose weight but at first it will be slower.

This article makes interesting reading


The trick is with weightloss and calorie issues is to do your own research for your own body.
 
JustWonderingIf said:
Your PT knew what he was doing in this instance. Upping your calories like he did for a month and then lowering again as you said yourself - worked.

A persons metabolism does slow of they eat too little as the body tries to conserve energy.
Obviously eventually you will lose weight but at first it will be slower.

This article makes interesting reading


The trick is with weightloss and calorie issues is to do your own research for your own body.
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I have previously lost 9 stone.
So in my case I'm aware of how to do it but
I just need the motivation to get back to it without causing more issues with EDs 😂
 
Mr Krabs said:
But I’m not sure Bethany Frankel is someone I’d want to read a diet book from. I remember she was showing off that she fit into her four year old’s pyjamas. I think she has a lot of food issues.
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In my opinion any diet tips/books or exercise routines coming from unqualified celebrities or influencers should be given a very wide berth.

Bethenny definitely has a disordered approach to food.
She had a video on tiktok the other week talking about how she eats chocolate everyday.
She kept reitterating it was 'just a piece' and said 'i don't binge!' About 6 times.

Having more than one chocolate button is not a binge.
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WhatABore said:
I have previously lost 9 stone.
So in my case I'm aware of how to do it but
I just need the motivation to get back to it without causing more issues with EDs 😂
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I wasn't implying you were clueless. Just that you obviously believed in starvation mode so didn't drop your calories too low.

There are people on here saying starvation mode doesn't exist (i'm not a doctor so won't comment) and giving examples of the massive weightloss i'm a celeb contestants have.

If someones told that they might be tempted to drop their calories lower thinking they can lose even more weight.

I was just saying to you and others on here reading in general, do your own research.
 
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I'm SO lost, I started Slimming World when I was 16, stopped when I was 26 (lost 4st, gained 2 back). Started WW when I turned 28. I'm about to turn 29 and I cannot go into my 30th year still obsessing over food and my weight etc. I know I've had binge eating issues in the past, brought on AFTER SW but I do now feel in a good place. I'm just so stuck with WHAT to eat, my brain is so jumbled with syns, points, good, bad etc. I just wish I could flick a switch and not be bothered by food, just eat my breakfast and get on with my day.
Basically my point is, how do I move forward and just have a healthier lifestyle where food and dieting doesn't consume me???
 
SundaysChild said:
I'm SO lost, I started Slimming World when I was 16, stopped when I was 26 (lost 4st, gained 2 back). Started WW when I turned 28. I'm about to turn 29 and I cannot go into my 30th year still obsessing over food and my weight etc. I know I've had binge eating issues in the past, brought on AFTER SW but I do now feel in a good place. I'm just so stuck with WHAT to eat, my brain is so jumbled with syns, points, good, bad etc. I just wish I could flick a switch and not be bothered by food, just eat my breakfast and get on with my day.
Basically my point is, how do I move forward and just have a healthier lifestyle where food and dieting doesn't consume me???
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I think the only way to 100% break free from counting syns or calories without gaining weight is to have a truly balanced diet and active lifestyle.

The thing is everyone who is the correct weight watches what they eat, even people who say they never diet.
Not one person eats what they want, in whatever portion size and stays at healthy weight or healthy in general.
People who seem to eat what they want usually do so in moderation or are very active.

And that is they key moderation.
Food is not the enemy. No food is 'good' or 'bad'. Food only becomes bad when we abuse it or over indulge.

Eating a big mac is not 'bad' but eating half the mcdonalds menu a few times a week would be unhealthy.

A hifi bar is not 'good' eating 2 boxs in one sitting would be just as unhealthy as any other binge.

Having a slice of cake everyday is not 'bad' when following a balanced diet. The cake does not make you gain weight excess calories do with sensible portions unhealthy foods are nothing to fear.

Something anyone on here should consider who really excessively struggles with obsessive counting and food anxiety is professional help.
People on this thread can only give general advice but a professional could help get to the root of your issues.
 
JustWonderingIf said:
I think the only way to 100% break free from counting syns or calories without gaining weight is to have a truly balanced diet and active lifestyle.

The thing is everyone who is the correct weight watches what they eat, even people who say they never diet.
Not one person eats what they want, in whatever portion size and stays at healthy weight or healthy in general.
People who seem to eat what they want usually do so in moderation or are very active.

And that is they key moderation.
Food is not the enemy. No food is 'good' or 'bad'. Food only becomes bad when we abuse it or over indulge.

Eating a big mac is not 'bad' but eating half the mcdonalds menu a few times a week would be unhealthy.

A hifi bar is not 'good' eating 2 boxs in one sitting would be just as unhealthy as any other binge.

Having a slice of cake everyday is not 'bad' when following a balanced diet. The cake does not make you gain weight excess calories do with sensible portions unhealthy foods are nothing to fear.

Something anyone on here should consider who really excessively struggles with obsessive counting and food anxiety is professional help.
People on this thread can only give general advice but a professional could help get to the root of your issues.
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Thank you for this, I really appreciate you taking the time to reply

My friend said to me a couple of years ago that the worst thing with over eating/binging etc is you cannot go cold turkey, like you could with drugs/alcohol. You can live with those but you cannot live without food so I need to figure out a way to live within moderation. My brain knows there is no good/bad etc but when it's all you've lived with for 29 years it's so tough to move away from it all.
I will look into professional help, totally agree it may be my only way to truly move forward!!
 
SundaysChild said:
Thank you for this, I really appreciate you taking the time to reply

My friend said to me a couple of years ago that the worst thing with over eating/binging etc is you cannot go cold turkey, like you could with drugs/alcohol. You can live with those but you cannot live without food so I need to figure out a way to live within moderation. My brain knows there is no good/bad etc but when it's all you've lived with for 29 years it's so tough to move away from it all.
I will look into professional help, totally agree it may be my only way to truly move forward!!
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This is not professional advice by any means but I found that swapping foods I binge on like crisps (i'm talking eating an entire multipack in one sitting) for something salty like gherkins was helpful.
I got the salt and crunch fix and it weened me off crisps.

I also don't keep foods I binge on in the house. I'm working towards being able to have crisps in the house but not at that point yet.

At the moment i'm eating whatever I want in a CC deficit.
No food groups cut out, not giving a tit about nutritional value, salt or fat in food.

I've lost 18lb since jan and have got a grip on binging for now (though its a fragile thing still)
 
SundaysChild said:
Thank you for this, I really appreciate you taking the time to reply

My friend said to me a couple of years ago that the worst thing with over eating/binging etc is you cannot go cold turkey, like you could with drugs/alcohol. You can live with those but you cannot live without food so I need to figure out a way to live within moderation. My brain knows there is no good/bad etc but when it's all you've lived with for 29 years it's so tough to move away from it all.
I will look into professional help, totally agree it may be my only way to truly move forward!!
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eeeekk who said you can go cold turkey with drugs and booze :eek::eek::eek::eek:
 
SundaysChild said:
I'm SO lost, I started Slimming World when I was 16, stopped when I was 26 (lost 4st, gained 2 back). Started WW when I turned 28. I'm about to turn 29 and I cannot go into my 30th year still obsessing over food and my weight etc. I know I've had binge eating issues in the past, brought on AFTER SW but I do now feel in a good place. I'm just so stuck with WHAT to eat, my brain is so jumbled with syns, points, good, bad etc. I just wish I could flick a switch and not be bothered by food, just eat my breakfast and get on with my day.
Basically my point is, how do I move forward and just have a healthier lifestyle where food and dieting doesn't consume me???
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If you can afford it, an online coach has been saving grace for me. I need accountability and someone checking up on me. You can’t really fail unless you tell them you quit and fire them. I’ve also found following lots of calorie counting/fitness coaches and nutritionist accounts on insta has helped me immerse myself in it and see regular posts that back up what I’m doing to keep me moving forward. I posted earlier about being a binge eater, I still am, but it’s improved sooo much and I have knowledge to tackle it. You won’t immediately be able to fix things but these factors will mean lots of small steps forward.
 
Greencatfysh said:
If you can afford it, an online coach has been saving grace for me. I need accountability and someone checking up on me. You can’t really fail unless you tell them you quit and fire them. I’ve also found following lots of calorie counting/fitness coaches and nutritionist accounts on insta has helped me immerse myself in it and see regular posts that back up what I’m doing to keep me moving forward. I posted earlier about being a binge eater, I still am, but it’s improved sooo much and I have knowledge to tackle it. You won’t immediately be able to fix things but these factors will mean lots of small steps forward.
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This is good advice.
Let me add to this for anyone considering:
Whatever you do, stay the duck away from Nikki Ryan Coaching
 
For me I’ve found it really helpful to think about “volume eating” so if I fancy crisps and dip I’ll get a plate and put on a handful of crisps, a tablespoon of dip, but also some chopped up carrots … I’m still getting the crisps and dip I want, but I’m also getting nutrients and becoming more full from the veggies! I’m doing this alongside calorie counting to make sure I stay in control!
I used to think I hated exercise but actually I just hated cardio… I’ve found that I love yoga, and stretching so I focus on these exercises from YouTube with a few abs/legs workouts thrown in and I always finish with a stretching workout so that is my reward for the workout rather than turning to food as a reward!x
 
It sounds obvious but the most important thing to me has been learning when I’m actually hungry. Listen to your body. If I’m hungry between meals I try to ask myself, am I actually hungry or is it boredom/PMS/thirst? Also, I try to enjoy food a lot more. Instead of bingeing on crap I am learning to eat a wider variety of foods and really enjoy them.

I used to work with a woman who was very slim but never on a diet. When we’d go out to eat, she’d order things like pizza but crucially she’d stop when full. She’d sometimes have a twix in the afternoon but wasn’t doing it every day. She didn’t exercise as such but would walk too and from work. I would love to have that kind of relationship with food one day and just be energetic without thinking about it!
 
I thought seen as today people have been mentioning fear foods, binge eating and diet culture generally weighing on them i'd share some books that I found helpful

First is 'food isn't medicine' by Dr Josh Wolrich.
Now, Josh has a (fairly quiet) thread on here and can be a bit of a pretentious nob. He also leans into the body positivity and health and every size movements a bit too much in my opinion

but if you can get past this, his book is well researched and does have some sound advice and does go through why each mainstream fad diet isn't necessary, claims about certain foods being superior to others are generally exagerrated or untrue and why you shouldn't fear certain food groups.

It's worth picking up 2nd hand or on sale (wouldn't suggest paying full price)

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This book is also one I read for binge eating it encourages you to look at the emotions that trigger binging and overeating and how food will never solve any feelings or emotions you want to fill
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I went into a book shop to look at that Airfryer book from Bored of Lunch - it is about from £9.50 to £22 but I would not give it house room.
From the quick look I had it was nothing you wouln'dt get from the internet.
 
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JustWonderingIf said:
This is a good video
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I like this, puts things into perspective.
I went out for dinner last night and chose something that was relatively low calories BUT something I actually wanted to eat and enjoyed rather than just choosing the lowest calorie boring meal on the menu. I even had sweet potato fries 🙌

This morning the scale says+2lb but I know that's food sitting in my stomach, probably salt etc. As annoying as it feels I am telling myself it will be back to normal tomorrow and not to panic.

Progress for me! I agree with what a previous poster said about everyone who maintains a sensible weight needing to make balanced decisions and I don't really think anyone except the extremely active can eat whatever they want, but it's finding the middle ground between obsession and restriction and unlimited eating, it's a long term work in progress.
 
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