Eurovision Song Contest 2024

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knivesnflowers said:
israel taking part* is a political statement
eric saade holding a keffiyeh is not the equivalent of a national flag and is not a political statement
tali dedicating 'fighter' to her brother in the iof is a political statement
bambie calling for a ceasefire is not a political statement

*with a song that underwent numerous revisions after lyrics were deemed to be referencing oct 7th
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I’d argue that Saade and Bambie could be seen as political but they’re not on the same level of being political as general participation of a country in an international event like Eurovision. The majority of people wouldn’t know that the other two are protesting if it wasn’t pointed out to you

There’s a reason we have shunned Russia and Belarus from the international community

It’s also amusing that Ukraine is allowed to dedicate their turquoise carpet looks to representing Ukrainians who can’t go back home because of the war (hence the keys). They had the same key when they passed to the final. Haven’t heard the EBU condemning them for something that could be seen as a political action even if the majority of the audience don’t necessarily know the meaning

Oh and they seem to have made a post about it on IG too:
www.kyivpost.com

Eurovision 2024 Kicks Off in Malmö with Touching Opening Ceremony

The duo Alyona Alyona & Jerry Heil made a striking entrance on the Turquoise Carpet. Their outfits, adorned with keys, symbolized homes lost due to the ongoing war in Ukraine.
www.kyivpost.com www.kyivpost.com

The double standards are real
 
I think it'll do well in televote but I don't think it'll win surely a top 5 result is the goal there but it's definitely grown on me credit to bambie for qualifying hopefully this is the turnaround for Ireland now
 
caremum said:
The first time I watched it I was like WTF but it has grown on me.

- is an intimate version. They are certainly very talented and very creative. I hope the entry does well but RTE probably praying the song doesn't win.
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My bet is either Switzerland or Croatia. Still it will be nice to have a stake in the voting again after all this time, That's enough for me.

Loved this version
 
Merpedy said:
The videos going around from Israel’s jury show are really something. A few people have said that there was a lot of tension during the song as a result

EBU have really messed up with this one
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I said a few pages back to keep Eurovision totally apolitical then they should take action regarding countries in conflict. Just suspend them until it is over. It is distracting and not fair on the artists.

Even Ukraine winning in 2022 was a political statement. Everyone voted Ukraine because of the war not because of their song.
 
FenellaTheWitch said:
I said a few pages back to keep Eurovision totally apolitical then they should take action regarding countries in conflict. Just suspend them until it is over. It is distracting and not fair on the artists.

Even Ukraine winning in 2022 was a political statement. Everyone voted Ukraine because of the war not because of their song.
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I quite liked the winning Ukraine song but I don't think it would have won without the war.

I agree with you that perhaps countries in conflicts should opt out due to political voting, which is bad enough under normal circumstances.
 
FenellaTheWitch said:
I said a few pages back to keep Eurovision totally apolitical then they should take action regarding countries in conflict. Just suspend them until it is over. It is distracting and not fair on the artists.

Even Ukraine winning in 2022 was a political statement. Everyone voted Ukraine because of the war not because of their song.
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Yep the pressure on Olly trying to make him withdraw has been absolutely ridiculous, calling him complicit in genocide, littering his twitter feed with pics of dead babies etc just because he's in the same competion that features an Israeli entry. Totally unfair and unreasonable, of course Israel and Palestine is important in life but at the same time we need some relief and fun and calm time away from the horrors of the world, not everything needs to be spoiled and miserable.

No doubt other countries' acts have been under the same pressure. I agree that any country that's involved in an international conflict should simply be excluded even if that does mean half the entrants being removed!
 
kev1974 said:
Yep the pressure on Olly trying to make him withdraw has been absolutely ridiculous, calling him complicit in genocide, littering his twitter feed with pics of dead babies etc just because he's in the same competion that features an Israeli entry. Totally unfair and unreasonable, of course Israel and Palestine is important in life but at the same time we need some relief and fun and calm time away from the horrors of the world, not everything needs to be spoiled and miserable.

No doubt other countries' acts have been under the same pressure. I agree that any country that's involved in an international conflict should simply be excluded even if that does mean half the entrants being removed!
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400 artists in Ireland signed an open letter asking Bambie Thug to withdraw. One of the signatories had been favourite to win the national selection back in January but didn't. Except in January when she competed the conflict was well underway.
 
There were quite a few that were threatening boycotts back at the start of the year but nothing came of it. If a solid group of countries had clubbed together and boycotted I think the EBU would've caved but here we are.

Part of me thinks 'roll on sunday' get this year over. If the EBU are lucky, Israel won't qualify and it won't impact the final as much.
 
kev1974 said:
Yep the pressure on Olly trying to make him withdraw has been absolutely ridiculous, calling him complicit in genocide, littering his twitter feed with pics of dead babies etc just because he's in the same competion that features an Israeli entry. Totally unfair and unreasonable, of course Israel and Palestine is important in life but at the same time we need some relief and fun and calm time away from the horrors of the world, not everything needs to be spoiled and miserable.

No doubt other countries' acts have been under the same pressure. I agree that any country that's involved in an international conflict should simply be excluded even if that does mean half the entrants being removed!
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I honestly think Olly's experience of Eurovision will have been pretty tit. He looked very stressed about it at one stage.
 
Mrs Fluff said:
400 artists in Ireland signed an open letter asking Bambie Thug to withdraw. One of the signatories had been favourite to win the national selection back in January but didn't. Except in January when she competed the conflict was well underway.
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Sorry I don't mean to derail but Erica Cody is such a desperate wannabe who is jealous and bitter that Bambie beat her. Ercia is a tit singer and wouldn't have a lot of commercial success but she seems to get a lot of opportunities and publicity from Rté (Irish broadcaster). She was pushed hard by them in the run up to the national selection. Then she went on to put public pressure on Bambie to boycott the competition? What a hypocrite and she should know there would be contractual obligations Bambie would have to fulfil.

Anyway, Ercia is a Roxanne Pallett type grifter/ perpetual victim type. Shortly after the George Floyd/BLM protesters a few years back she tried to capitalise on the mood at the time and tried to get Versatile, or specifically, Casper Walsh cancelled. They knew each other from school or something? She posted a video where she was crying/ distraught in her car saying he had blocked her in for ages, intimidated her, she was practically in fear of her life etc etc. He was able to get the CCTV footage and showed he stopped his car in front of her parked car, waved and moved on like 5 seconds later. She's not to be taken seriously.
 
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