English channel migrant crossing crisis #7

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thegirlscout said:
60% of the increase in the UK population between 2004 and 2022 was due to the direct contribution of net migration. Net migration has exceeded natural change for the majority of the past 20 years. And in the next 22 years the population of the UK is estimated to be at 77 million. How on earth people think this amount of change won’t destabilise a country I don’t know. There are already parts of the country where ‘white British’ is a minority but to say that somehow makes you racist.
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Unfortunately I think we will be at war within the next 22 years. Fighting not only enemies from abroad, but those already on our shores too.

Not a nice thought, however I can really see that occurring.

The question is what will the lefties who have supported all this for years do, when it finally kicks off here?

Wave the white flag, or finally admit they have been wrong all along.
 
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IngressUK said:
Unfortunately I think we will be at war within the next 22 years. Fighting not only enemies from abroad, but those already on our shores too.

Not a nice thought, however I can really see that occurring.

The question is what will the lefties who have supported all this for years do, when it finally kicks off here?

Wave the white flag, or finally admit they have been wrong all along.
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Those far lefties will definitely join the enemy. Though I don't think there's many. A handful of corbynites that will be used as human shields which they will probably relish, being martyrs, payback for their coloniser sins :rolleyes:
 
Piff paff puff said:
Those far lefties will definitely join the enemy. Though I don't think there's many. A handful of corbynites that will be used as human shields which they will probably relish, being martyrs, payback for their coloniser sins :rolleyes:
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The Far Left will do what the Far Left always do, they will support which ever side will further their ideological goals and bring them one step closer to the point where they can seize their neighbours property on behalf of the poor and oppressed (a group which includes them of course) and start shipping off "counter revolutionaries and dissidents" to the gulags for reeducation.

No Far Left will ever actually martyr themselves willingly though. Because they will be almost to a man a "conscientious objector" and will have convinced themselves that that is "true bravery". Yep, facing down a tank or a grenade launcher is for less sensitive souls. True courage is to hide in ones home to protect one's "principles and mental health", after all what is a hail of bullets when compared to the hell of social media bullying?
 
NeverEnough said:
The Far Left will do what the Far Left always do, they will support which ever side will further their ideological goals and bring them one step closer to the point where they can seize their neighbours property on behalf of the poor and oppressed (a group which includes them of course) and start shipping off "counter revolutionaries and dissidents" to the gulags for reeducation.

No Far Left will ever actually martyr themselves willingly though. Because they will be almost to a man a "conscientious objector" and will have convinced themselves that that is "true bravery". Yep, facing down a tank or a grenade launcher is for less sensitive souls. True courage is to hide in ones home to protect one's "principles and mental health", after all what is a hail of bullets when compared to the hell of social media bullying?
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Except many of those ideological, far left types are remaining rather quiet on the subject of Winter Fuel Payment cuts for the elderly.

Somehow acceptable when Labour does it. Not if the 'nasty' Tories did.

They are only interested in helping the poor and oppressed that fit in with their ideologies.

So that excludes, white British, Brexit supporters, Conservative/Reform/Lib Dem supporters, and anyone who doesn't toe the WOKE agenda - regardless if they are poor and in need.

Many also seem to think having a University education makes them some kind of authority on everything. It really doesn't. When many can't even hold a simple debate, and listen to opposing views without trying to shout down people, close down discussion and name call; Just goes to show how worthless University education is nowadays.
 
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IngressUK said:
Except many of those ideological, far left types are remaining rather quiet on the subject of Winter Fuel Payment cuts for the elderly.

Somehow acceptable when Labour does it. Not if the 'nasty' Tories did.

They are only interested in helping the poor and oppressed that fit in with their ideologies.

So that excludes, white British, Brexit supporters, Conservative/Reform/Lib Dem supporters, and anyone who doesn't toe the WOKE agenda - regardless if they are poor and in need.

Many also seem to think having a University education makes them some kind of authority on everything. It really doesn't. When many can't even hold a simple debate, and listen to opposing views without trying to shout down people, close down discussion and name call; Just goes to show how worthless University education is nowadays.
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I grew up in a Durham mining village during the 1980s strike. The Far Left position at the time was that the mines should be kept open, no matter how economically unviable they were to protect "the community". Which was something they considered precious. 40 years down the line the miners are now killing the planet, and the self same communities are regarded as Far Right for not accepting the change to their lifestyles that mass immigration brings.

And if you took 100 random graduates I think fewer then half could locate Durham on a map.
 
www.bbc.co.uk

Small boats traded by Channel smugglers in German city of Essen

A €15,000 package deal for a dinghy, engine and 60 life jackets was offered to our reporter in Essen.
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Well if nothing else this shows the absolute folly of the no borders regime. The boats are sourced and sold in Germany then driven to France within “three to four” hours seemingly without any form of repercussion at all. I remain gobsmacked that facilitation of human trafficking is “not technically illegal” in Germany. I thought Europe had reached a higher plane of social justice and civilisation than us on Brexit Island?

But anyway I digress. Note to Mssrs Starmer, Macron, and Scholtz. Surely in this instance the gangs (or at least this gang) can be “smashed” by the simple imposition of a customs checks between Germany and France? Yes? Won’t happen of course because any price in human suffering, death in the Channel, or security in the destination is worth it for no borders zealots. The next 50 dinghies smuggled by this gang could sink killing all aboard and they would argue “the economic benefits far out way the security concerns”.

Jesus. I thought that the Far Right* were the psychopaths.







*Defined in the modern way as anyone in favour of border control.
 
NeverEnough said:
www.bbc.co.uk

Small boats traded by Channel smugglers in German city of Essen

A €15,000 package deal for a dinghy, engine and 60 life jackets was offered to our reporter in Essen.
www.bbc.co.uk

Well if nothing else this shows the absolute folly of the no borders regime. The boats are sourced and sold in Germany then driven to France within “three to four” hours seemingly without any form of repercussion at all. I remain gobsmacked that facilitation of human trafficking is “not technically illegal” in Germany. I thought Europe had reached a higher plane of social justice and civilisation than us on Brexit Island?

But anyway I digress. Note to Mssrs Starmer, Macron, and Scholtz. Surely in this instance the gangs (or at least this gang) can be “smashed” by the simple imposition of a customs checks between Germany and France? Yes? Won’t happen of course because any price in human suffering, death in the Channel, or security in the destination is worth it for no borders zealots. The next 50 dinghies smuggled by this gang could sink killing all aboard and they would argue “the economic benefits far out way the security concerns”.

Jesus. I thought that the Far Right* were the psychopaths.







*Defined in the modern way as anyone in favour of border control.
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A blind person could see there is no reason why the source of the boats couldn't be found. It's so blatant and not at all surprising.
Whomever puts children in those death trap dinghies need to be made responsible for their deaths. Greedy parents who care more about a nice lifestyle than their children's lives. Disgusting :mad:
 
NeverEnough said:
www.bbc.co.uk

Small boats traded by Channel smugglers in German city of Essen

A €15,000 package deal for a dinghy, engine and 60 life jackets was offered to our reporter in Essen.
www.bbc.co.uk

Well if nothing else this shows the absolute folly of the no borders regime. The boats are sourced and sold in Germany then driven to France within “three to four” hours seemingly without any form of repercussion at all. I remain gobsmacked that facilitation of human trafficking is “not technically illegal” in Germany. I thought Europe had reached a higher plane of social justice and civilisation than us on Brexit Island?

But anyway I digress. Note to Mssrs Starmer, Macron, and Scholtz. Surely in this instance the gangs (or at least this gang) can be “smashed” by the simple imposition of a customs checks between Germany and France? Yes? Won’t happen of course because any price in human suffering, death in the Channel, or security in the destination is worth it for no borders zealots. The next 50 dinghies smuggled by this gang could sink killing all aboard and they would argue “the economic benefits far out way the security concerns”.

Jesus. I thought that the Far Right* were the psychopaths.







*Defined in the modern way as anyone in favour of border control.
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I recall (and please anyone, correct me if I'm wrong because I'm dredging it up from my memory) this being looked into some time ago. It seems that owning a company that exports dinghies to France is not illegal in Germany, hence nothing could be done about it at customs.
 
Miscanthus said:
I recall (and please anyone, correct me if I'm wrong because I'm dredging it up from my memory) this being looked into some time ago. It seems that owning a company that exports dinghies to France is not illegal in Germany, hence nothing could be done about it at customs.
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I suppose if they’re running a legit company how could they impose restrictions on customers? How many companies interrogate their customers on what they’re going to use the products for?
 
NeverEnough said:
So you agree that massive immigration has a destabilising effect? Because it either does or it doesn't. Unless of course you wish to argue there's a qualitative difference between an illegal who enters through Poland and one that enters through Italy?
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The situation in Poland isn't 'massive immigration', it is a targeted tactic by a country Europe is in a proxy war with. And there is an obvious qualitative difference in the profile of these people coming to Poland (as documented in the article), given they are being sent in an effort to politically destabilise.

If you cant see the nuance, I cant help you.
 
NeverEnough said:
Some of the comments on that article are brutal. BTP haven't exactly covered themselves in glory. The word is murdered, not passed.
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Compared to this reporting?? I didn’t even see anything about the girls murder on MSM
news.sky.com

Nazi-obsessed Callum Parslow guilty of attempted murder after stabbing asylum seeker at Worcestershire hotel

Parslow's plan to send his "manifesto" to figures including Tommy Robinson, Laurence Fox, Boris Johnson and Suella Braverman failed as he copied in too many people.
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Safe enough for his wife and family to be left there 🤔 Dublin is probably just as dangerous as S.Africa , muggins, stabbings, sexual assaults all on the up.
 
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Justhereforthedrama said:
The situation in Poland isn't 'massive immigration', it is a targeted tactic by a country Europe is in a proxy war with. And there is an obvious qualitative difference in the profile of these people coming to Poland (as documented in the article), given they are being sent in an effort to politically destabilise.

If you cant see the nuance, I cant help you.
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And just what is this obvious difference in profile? Age? Religion? Country of origin?

And if they get in through Poland and evade the border guards and then start roaming around in Europe how can you tell where they entered? Because if there is an obvious qualitative difference then, by definition, you must be able to tell. That is, after all, the definition of obvious.
 
NeverEnough said:
And just what is this obvious difference in profile? Age? Religion? Country of origin?

And if they get in through Poland and evade the border guards and then start roaming around in Europe how can you tell where they entered? Because if there is an obvious qualitative difference then, by definition, you must be able to tell. That is, after all, the definition of obvious.
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The difference is intention, encouragement by the Russian government. And that they are Russian or Belarusian. But you know that.
 
monga said:
Compared to this reporting?? I didn’t even see anything about the girls murder on MSM
news.sky.com

Nazi-obsessed Callum Parslow guilty of attempted murder after stabbing asylum seeker at Worcestershire hotel

Parslow's plan to send his "manifesto" to figures including Tommy Robinson, Laurence Fox, Boris Johnson and Suella Braverman failed as he copied in too many people.
news.sky.com news.sky.com
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Parslow's plan to send his "manifesto" to figures including Tommy Robinson, Laurence Fox, Boris Johnson and Suella Braverman failed as he copied in too many people.

Not the brightest, eh?
 
Justhereforthedrama said:
The difference is intention, encouragement by the Russian government. And that they are Russian or Belarusian. But you know that.
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There are at anytime tens of thousands of migrants knocking about in Northern France waiting to get to the UK. Their only clear intention is to get to the UK. Beyond that? You have no idea. I have no idea. No one has any bleeping idea. Is that not the single most important issue that you're pretending isn't important at all?
 
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