Nope, she sounds like a Stokie who moved a few miles away and now says "luk" instead of "l-oo-k". Or somebody who grew up/lives very near to stoke but not quite there
Dr Jessica Taylor #9 Don't be fooled by the sports car I got, I'm still grifter Jessie from the block
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Can I ask what stoke means? In NI it's an extremely derogatory name people use to insult others (calling them a woman) taken from the travelling family the Stokes. Is this the same in England?
Boogs
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She’s referring to Stoke-on-Trent where she comes from because of course it’s full of the likes of ‘Simpo’ and she is the only successful person to have ever hailed from there.
It's a small city in England with a quite unique accent. It sounds a little bit like a Liverpool accent but also somehow different. It is more of a northern English accent and is quite far from the "posh" British accent Americans often seem to think all Brits have.
witchofwestbyfleet
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Basically it's part of her grift/image - "I'm a common little working class chav from a Stoke-on-Trent council estate but I'm also the successful, dynamic boss babe you see before you! Doesn't that just blow your mind?!"
Stella.alletS
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She mentions him in a roundabout way when she talks about meeting Jaimi and talking about how they were both miserable with their current male partners. There might have been more mention but I don't remember if there was.
It's basically a few stories from her adolescence interspersed with snippets of her life at university and her tribunal against them. At the end, there's a massive letter to her childhood self telling her how amazing she is that seems to go on for about 1/4 of the book. She mentions going to a "top university" too many times to count. Her childhood sounded rough - similar to many girls who grow up in poverty - but most of it is stories she's told before on Twitter with a few new ones about how her first kiss with a girl (the most beautiful and popular girl in school, no less) in front of a group of other girls at a sleepover was "bliss", and how she pulled a hot Turkish hotel worker girl who couldn't speak English while she was on holiday with her family aged 15.
We couldn't afford foreign holidays when I was 15. Think I'll outdo her with a misery memoir of my own
AccidentalAcademic
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Oh, I agree that she wouldn't want to do the actual job of a clinical or forensic psychologist. Most of the basic bread-and-butter aspects of the job wouldn't appeal to her and the training salary would probably feel too low. I mentioned the salary because this is a big part of why the practitioner doctorate gets so many applicants. Jessica won't have faced much if any competition to enrol as an unfunded PhD student (most research degrees are relatively easy to get onto unless you're applying for a studentship, which are few and far between) and I suspect she's fearful/resentful of any competitive application process that doesn't end in her winning. Even though she might not want a clinical job for its own sake, she's defensive because she knows the option isn't even there. This is one reason why she uses the twisty vague language around her qualifications, suggesting that it was her choice to move into research, that she has done clinical work in the past ("I've done my time frontline"), that the only reason she doesn't do it now is because the approach is too medicalised ("I did work in a prison which was med"), that it won't let her bring about real change, and so on. She can't just be transparent and say outright that she's not got the right training to do clinical work and her PhD qualifies her for research only. Being honest would also raise questions about why she hasn't actually done any academic research since the PhD - anyone can throw together a few poor-quality online surveys and recycle blog posts into a book, so she's not even making good use of the experience she does have.
Another reason for the vaguery is that she obviously likes being regarded as an expert on clinical topics by misinformed fans and she doesn't want to stop issuing pronouncements on psychosis, autism, or whatever she's decided she's an authority on this week. This was most obvious in that cringeworthy article about Lucy Letby that was headlined "As a psychologist, I know why Letby's friends are standing by her" or something similar. I know the editor will have chosen the headline, not her, but it perfectly sums up her attitude in the article: that she's got special insight into interpersonal dynamics in high-stress situations. If she'd worked therapeutically with perpetrators of violence and their families, or even done her PhD in this area, she might have something to say. She doesn't and she relies on the misconception that she's clinically trained to get these opportunities to sound off.
That detail jumped out at me as well… I know there are different forms of poverty but I was 15 the first time my family went holiday abroad (camping in France, cheap and cheerful!) We were not poor or even working class. Contradictions like this are one of the reasons I’m disinclined to believe anything she says.
umnothatsnotokay
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Yes - same here. Not poor, not rich but our only holidays were UK camping and one time camping in France. A resort / hotel somewhere like Turkey was never on the table due to cost. I know there were lower cost package deals around so perhaps her family got a good bargain?
But she has quite a few siblings so 3ven a good deal wouldn't be cheap
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She's now in the Mail. Wish Birmingham Uni would respond
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I was the first person in my family to go on a holiday abroad and I paid for this myself as an adult. My family didn’t even have passports.
I don’t believe for 1 minute that email happened. She acts like people from a council estate are from another planet and that they are too busy fake limping and smoking weed to get a job and go to university.
Guess what Jess you’re not the only person who grew up on a council estate and went to Uni. I know you’re so desperate to be unique and special and look down on the others you grew up around. I bet some of them have gone to Uni and bought their own house too. I would hope they had managed to do it without compulsive lying and exploiting the vulnerable though
I don’t believe for 1 minute that email happened. She acts like people from a council estate are from another planet and that they are too busy fake limping and smoking weed to get a job and go to university.
Guess what Jess you’re not the only person who grew up on a council estate and went to Uni. I know you’re so desperate to be unique and special and look down on the others you grew up around. I bet some of them have gone to Uni and bought their own house too. I would hope they had managed to do it without compulsive lying and exploiting the vulnerable though
Same, and it was on the old one year passport too as i couldn't afford a 10 year one!I was the first person in my family to go on a holiday abroad and I paid for this myself as an adult. My family didn’t even have passports.
I don’t believe for 1 minute that email happened. She acts like people from a council estate are from another planet and that they are too busy fake limping and smoking weed to get a job and go to university.
Guess what Jess you’re not the only person who grew up on a council estate and went to Uni. I know you’re so desperate to be unique and special and look down on the others you grew up around. I bet some of them have gone to Uni and bought their own house too. I would hope they had managed to do it without compulsive lying and exploiting the vulnerable though
Sounds to me the emails are more like sarcasm in response to JT repeatedly announcing her background ( perhaps as a cover for her inadequate work). ‘Did you know she’s from a council estate’. I recently worked with someone who put into every conversation his military background and military anecdotes, so much so that I joked with a colleague ‘Did you know he’s been in the army?’. Perhaps JT’s narcissism missed this style of humour?
Yes, she would bring the field into disrepute, because of her lack of ethics and exploitation of others, not because of her background.
Don’t think she’ll be very happy being referred to as a ‘mental health professional’.
Yes, she would bring the field into disrepute, because of her lack of ethics and exploitation of others, not because of her background.
Don’t think she’ll be very happy being referred to as a ‘mental health professional’.
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Especially as the words mental health professional indicate someone who works with mental health which she doesn’t.
maisiedaisy2
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100% the comment about disrepute would have been a well founded and now proven concern about her unethical, anti-intellectual poor work and practice. There's no way any comment would be passed about her council estate background. As others have said here, it's really not the big deal Jess constantly makes out. She is the only one who holds these out -dated stereotypical views. She's such a truth twister. She can't stand that she's nothing special. She's not a good academic or writer. She wasn't good enough to get a funded PhD or a clinical place. But it's all her choice of course. How does Jaimi put up with it? Is she as bad?!
AccidentalAcademic
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I remember the email situation. Jessica publicly shared the name of the academic who had sent it. It was a forensic psychologist from the University of Lincoln. Jessica said she had never interacted with this person and she had no idea why they would be emailing her university about her, so it seems the concerns were all based on her online conduct.
At the time I believed Jessica's version of events. I had no reason to doubt her then, and practitioner psychologists aren't immune to prejudice. Sadly it was plausible that a bigoted stranger might have targeted her based on nothing more than her public disclosure of abuse, teenage parenthood, etc. But since then I've watched how Jessica will take a kernel of truth, crush it to powder, and then mix it up with a load of lies, so now I suspect there was more to the story.
At the time I believed Jessica's version of events. I had no reason to doubt her then, and practitioner psychologists aren't immune to prejudice. Sadly it was plausible that a bigoted stranger might have targeted her based on nothing more than her public disclosure of abuse, teenage parenthood, etc. But since then I've watched how Jessica will take a kernel of truth, crush it to powder, and then mix it up with a load of lies, so now I suspect there was more to the story.
umnothatsnotokay
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That really does seem to be her pattern. There appears to be a kernel of truth to her stories. Sometimes a bit more. She very practiced in obscuring, distracting and manipulating, but also comfortable with just outright lying.
So many examples one is the way she uses the term ‘psychologist’ to describe herself, deliberately misleading people but able to say that technically it is true. And I’ve seen comments referring to her as a clinical psychologist on her pages that she doesn’t correct.
She’s very sneaky and I don’t think any of her stories are told without considerable embellishment.
I personally know of several people who have grown up on a council estate, who come from a very working class background and are training or are already qualified as clinical psychologists.
I don't understand why she acts like it was completely out of the ordinary for her to have been on a post grad course as a working class person. It might not be the thing the majority of people from that background do but there are still many who go onto study post grad psychology courses.
I don't understand why she acts like it was completely out of the ordinary for her to have been on a post grad course as a working class person. It might not be the thing the majority of people from that background do but there are still many who go onto study post grad psychology courses.
Blue bunny
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I hope she's cringing at being on the daily mail website.
The mainstream media will only get her so far, because she is a one trick pony, regurgetating the same few stories over and over. Eventually she'll have to do something new for attention. As a victim, she's always (rightfully) got the most attention for negative things that have happened to her, which is probably why it's a go to and why she now has to create situations, like the one with SA.
I wish she could put her efforts into doing all the stuff she wishes she was doing instead
The mainstream media will only get her so far, because she is a one trick pony, regurgetating the same few stories over and over. Eventually she'll have to do something new for attention. As a victim, she's always (rightfully) got the most attention for negative things that have happened to her, which is probably why it's a go to and why she now has to create situations, like the one with SA.
I wish she could put her efforts into doing all the stuff she wishes she was doing instead