Dan Wheeler 8020 #10 All my lives are done and dusted, they stopped me posting - I can’t be trusted

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sofaz56 said:
He'll still have fat around his organs etc (I'm not a health expert by any means so correct me if I'm wrong) and there's something called viseral fat (not sure how that works) that needs to come down too?
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You are correct. This is also where the term “skinny fat” is relevant. The fat around the organs is dangerous, it makes the organ restricted in movement and ability to function.

morbidly obese or skinny people can also be eating so badly (beige) that you are actually malnourished as you are not getting the nutrients to fuel you.

I am unaware how he picked the name but from my training/experience the 80/20 rule has always been “80% of weight loss comes from the kitchen”.

If people are not taught how to cook, know proper portion sizes, where protein is obtained from food and how carbs fuel the body. Well… you have someone consuming iron man levels of calories and looking like a potato. 🤷🏼‍♀️
 
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Well I’m going to be honest. I seriously don’t give a tit if DJ has enablers, diabetes, visceral fat or anything else. In fact it pisses me off just reading about him on here. If they want to support Dan, then that’s on them, but they are just as nasty as him.
Carla threatened Emma with violence and Danny boy threatening to lie and say she was a peadophile. They are both sick in the head.😡
 
3 potential things have happened with DW simply because if there wasn't one of these reasons then he wouldn't be silent and let someone else take control of social media. It's what he craves the most the attention.

1. Hes had a breakdown of some description and is off on the sick.
2. He's taken some legal advice. Regarding trust pilot and the emails for refunds and theyve told him to say and do nothing take a backward seat with the other other cases regarding the offices pending too.
3. Trading standards have been in touch with him. He's seen his arse and backed right off from the face of the company and these last grasp attempts of getting cash together are to pay the people he owes.
 
JCMSadie said:
The reason he's keeping a low profile is probably us, he probably thinks that will shut us up (clearly not, he's given us ammo for months). But a low profile means less opportunity to snare the unsuspecting. Always Dan's problem - more concerned with what people are saying about him than actually running a business.
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Have you seen the video where comedy gold says C U next tuesday?

sofaz56 said:
I know I keep banging on about this but he's literally putting people's lives in danger. Yeah it's sort of down to them for believing the hype but when you're desperate and an "expert" comes along and promises you you can loose weight and still eat what you want,who can blame them? I keep seeing vids of DJ coming up on my fyp and I'm just like why is no one telling him he needs to actually LOOSE weight not just improve his mobility. He'll still have fat around his organs etc (I'm not a health expert by any means so correct me if I'm wrong) and there's something called viseral fat (not sure how that works) that needs to come down too? I mean after how awful him and C were I can't wait til they day they realise DW has conned them but I don't wish them physical harm which is what DW is doing to them in my opinion. Sorry for the rant it's just been on my mind for a few days and me and my partner had a talk about all these fad diets and "miracle cures" yesterday and it just made me think 🤔 x
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Yeah I was saying something similar yesterday or day before, I dont want to fat shame anyone but pretending someone isnt fat or dangerously overweight I dont believe in either. Ie I wont call him a fat mess, but I wont high five his leg growth either.

I find it fascinating that people believe a guy reading from google but as you say its the gift, the holy grail, eat burgers and lose weight, true, but thats not what is happening. Your bodyweight can fluctuate 1-2% a day as can the intracellular water (hydration) so cms arent always relaible either especially on waists. Visceral fat is the fat around the organs. The fat doctor says this is a myth though. Although I do recall cutting fat off a pigs heart in GCSE biology.

Anamethatisatleast25chara said:
Just a thought but remember he started DJ on 4000 calories then he was moved up to 5000 don’t think it was too long after - but I bet he was losing weight on 4000 so why then move him up to 5000 I don’t care how big you are 4000 cals has got to be enough right especially if your eating nutritionally good stuff and veg and fruit easily
eat loads of veg and protein for those cals - I remember being absolutely gobsmacked when he then said he was then on 5000 😲😲 DJ needs to move away from DW take the mobility he’s gained with him (fair play to him for that) and cut a 1000
cals easily to get some weight off him quickly - I know it’s best to lose weight slowly but for his health he could do with shifting a fair few stone quicker than he has been doing
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Can I ask what you're basing that on please?

To be frank, I dont think he actually eats 5000kcals per day, he just had 20 beers, even if they were bottles/half pints not pints thats easily 2400kcals on beer alone.

His BMR will be high but massively inaccurate, DW doesnt let people eat below BMR as he thinks its dangerous. I could elaborate but doubt its welcome.
 
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DJ’s wife bought him dinner last night which contained 6 slices of toast. No-one needs that much toast, especially when you’re diabetic.
In another video he’s sipping beer and the camera drops to the floor showing another three pints lined up ready to drink. It’s binging however you want to dress it up.
As people have already said on here the issue is he’s got enablers everywhere from his family bringing plates of beige crap to his TT followers telling him he’s smashing it to worst of all DW telling him to eat more and more in order to build up muscle to lift weights. The man will be dead before that happens.
 
Anamethatisatleast25chara said:
don’t care how big you are 4000 cals has got to be enough right especially if your eating nutritionally good stuff and veg and fruit easily
eat loads of veg and protein for those cals -

DJ needs to move away from DW take the mobility he’s gained with him (fair play to him for that) and cut a 1000
cals easily to get some weight off him quickly
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This, the statement you made.
 
LonestarTT said:
This, the statement you made.
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I think that’s based on common sense?

Why do you feel the need to question everything anyone says and speak in such a condescending way? I don’t think for a second that you are one of ‘the gang’ as others have said but I’ve been thinking since you’ve been here that your behaviour is really odd. What is it? Why do you feel like you have to antagonise and patronise everyone?!
 
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LonestarTT said:
This, the statement you made.
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I’m basing this on my thoughts and my opinions and expressing them on Tattle which I am allowed to do. I think I know where you are heading - no I am not an expert in weight loss, nutrition, or the science behind calories and exercise but I think what I’ve said is just common sense. This this is a Tattle thread where I am allowed to have an opinion, voice my thoughts or say what I want within the rules of this site I don’t need to have qualifications in any of the above to speak about anything whether I am wrong or right on this site.
 
missypl said:
I think that’s based on common sense?

Why do you feel the need to question everything anyone says and speak in such a condescending way? I don’t think for a second that you are one of ‘the gang’ as others have said but I’ve been thinking since you’ve been here that your behaviour is really odd. What is it? Why do you feel like you have to antagonise and patronise everyone?!
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Firstly, It isnt common sense, there is actual science, and reducing someones calories arbitrarily by 1000 is just as random as DW increasing them. I feel I have been fairly consistent on the not fighting fire with fire nonsense.

If "how did you come to that conclusion please?" is condescending. I dont know how to talk to you accept for in platitudes and pure agreement in everything you say.

The calculators highlight certain numbers, before you said "he said 5000 cals its what he said hes on". OK, he also said how old he is, his height an his weight. If you use the calculators, I didnt want assume the OP had or hadnt, hence asking. They might have done this, we could have discussed it. I find it interesting and seeing as this is tattle I thought we were all free too.

If you need an echochamber, go back to 8020 and change your mindset. You seem to argue people are free to say what they want on here whilst simultaneously telling me I am not, or that its unwelcome.
 
missypl said:
I think that’s based on common sense?

Why do you feel the need to question everything anyone says and speak in such a condescending way? I don’t think for a second that you are one of ‘the gang’ as others have said but I’ve been thinking since you’ve been here that your behaviour is really odd. What is it? Why do you feel like you have to antagonise and patronise everyone?!
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I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that this person reminds me of people I know who have been diagnosed with Aspbergers Syndrome. Highly intelligent but struggles with social interactions. I'm probably totally wrong but thought I'd mention it anyway
 
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