Dan Wheeler 8020 #10 All my lives are done and dusted, they stopped me posting - I can’t be trusted

[JCMSadie]

The reason he's keeping a low profile is probably us, he probably thinks that will shut us up (clearly not, he's given us ammo for months). But a low profile means less opportunity to snare the unsuspecting. Always Dan's problem - more concerned with what people are saying about him than actually running a business.

 

[DansBarmyArmy]

There is only so much he can offer as a prize isn't there. LIke he said this competition will be bigger and better, but unless he's going to be offering cash, surely it'll be the same old prizes as last time. And they weren't exactly brilliant were they!!

Come on, this is Wheeler Dealer. The guy that puts himself so high on a pedestal and genuinely believes being in his presence or talking to him on the phone would be some sort of exclusive/sought after.

Nah I'll pass thanks.

 

[LonestarTT]

Think you may be right here- he was looking for 4-5 figure investments not long ago wasn’t he

Was that for a table and some foam for the garage?

 

[DansBarmyArmy]

The reason he's keeping a low profile is probably us, he probably thinks that will shut us up (clearly not, he's given us ammo for months). But a low profile means less opportunity to snare the unsuspecting. Always Dan's problem - more concerned with what people are saying about him than actually running a business.

The fact hes gone so quiet is a sure sign that TCHQ have gotten under his skin. If none of what we were saying was true, he would be carrying on as normal and telling people to ignore it.

Which was ok when he told people it was 6-7 people.. But as TCHQ has gained momentum, hes realised that he can't contain/control it.

Thats the bit thats bothering him most. He can't control this platform and hes resorted to attempting to troll us with stupidness. Except there are too many of us for him to try and silence now and hes fighting a losing battle.

Let that sink in Wheeler. Ninety people dude.
We arent the problem, you are.

 

[LonestarTT]

Here we go again do they not realise how desperate they sound!

Wait, how stupid do they think people are?

A competition launch? Launch? You launch a new offer.

A points system where you work for us to gain an unknown prize via an unknowns point gathering system to win a prize worth £000s as said by us when we conclude an e book is worth £100.

If something can mean anything it generally means nothing.

But 'trust us' its going to be so amazing when a 'legend' wins this and then regifts it for competition 3 because they "what a heart". How warm and welcoming is our group?

 

[DansBarmyArmy]

Wait, how stupid do they think people are?

A competition launch? Launch? You launch a new offer.

A points system where you work for us to gain an unknown prize via an unknowns point gathering system to win a prize worth £000s as said by us when we conclude an e book is worth £100.

If something can mean anything it generally means nothing.

But 'trust us' its going to be so amazing when a 'legend' wins this and then regifts it for competition 3 because they "what a heart". How warm and welcoming is our group?

Sign up gang, it's gonna be amazing. I have no bleeping clue what I am doing, but trust the process- it will be worth it I promise!

 

[LonestarTT]

There is only so much he can offer as a prize isn't there. LIke he said this competition will be bigger and better, but unless he's going to be offering cash, surely it'll be the same old prizes as last time. And they weren't exactly brilliant were they!!

This will be "proof" it was trolls

Come on, this is Wheeler Dealer. The guy that puts himself so high on a pedestal and genuinely believes being in his presence or talking to him on the phone would be some sort of exclusive/sought after.

Nah I'll pass thanks.

Ive often thought this. GANG you can win lunch with me (if you're within a 10 mile radius and agree for everything to be filmed whilst I cough and burp).

Who thinks that's a prize. Dan, Dan does. Dan thinks he's so amazing (genuinely) that his presence is changing lives.

 

[shocktiludrop]

Dan holding himself up as a prize (lunch with Dan) reminds me of the episode in Motherland where Amanda tries to auction of a kiss with her as a prize

 

[Alfie1234]

Well, so far I’ve seen 2 people respond to his announcement

As much as I’d like to think it’s purely us on here that’s driven the change in him I think something legal has happened, this is such an about face overnight, it’s like he’s been given a timescale to put his house in order, which makes me think Trading Standards. Which of course indirectly is still all of us, but he can call us trolly c**ts and keep blocking, but he can’t do it to the TS. Also wondering if he’s in trouble from the office business as well. There’s a reason they’re taking his name off everything as well and trying to make it the plan and not him, which is why it’s ridiculous to keep using his insta page

 

[anon19801980]

Why do the hun brigade think it’s kind to tell people who look NO different that they can see MAJOR changes in their progress pics.
It just feeds into the Emperors New Clothes narrative.
Seriously - if you’ve lost 1cm off your ENTIRE body you are NOT going to look ANY different and deep down I know these people know it too or you wouldn’t ask for the reassurance.
Hun brigade - my message to you is stop telling people you can see major changes. It’s not fair and it’s keeping people who want help deluded and not progressing in the direction they so desperately want to be.

 

[sofaz56]

I know I keep banging on about this but he's literally putting people's lives in danger. Yeah it's sort of down to them for believing the hype but when you're desperate and an "expert" comes along and promises you you can loose weight and still eat what you want,who can blame them? I keep seeing vids of DJ coming up on my fyp and I'm just like why is no one telling him he needs to actually LOOSE weight not just improve his mobility. He'll still have fat around his organs etc (I'm not a health expert by any means so correct me if I'm wrong) and there's something called viseral fat (not sure how that works) that needs to come down too? I mean after how awful him and C were I can't wait til they day they realise DW has conned them but I don't wish them physical harm which is what DW is doing to them in my opinion. Sorry for the rant it's just been on my mind for a few days and me and my partner had a talk about all these fad diets and "miracle cures" yesterday and it just made me think x

 

[notforme1]

Why do the hun brigade think it’s kind to tell people who look NO different that they can see MAJOR changes in their progress pics.
It just feeds into the Emperors New Clothes narrative.
Seriously - if you’ve lost 1cm off your ENTIRE body you are NOT going to look ANY different and deep down I know these people know it too or you wouldn’t ask for the reassurance.
Hun brigade - my message to you is stop telling people you can see major changes. It’s not fair and it’s keeping people who want help deluded and not progressing in the direction they so desperately want to be.

Is it because they are ‘contracted’ to offer support in the academy and be positive? All for £5 discount a month seriously though your right it’s not fair but what else can they do other than admit that it’s not working

 

[shocktiludrop]

Just to add, I’ve been thinking about these fitness plans where they specifically aim it to people who have struggled to lose weight at slimming clubs. Particularly with 80/20 the whole rhetoric is “you have failed at dieting, the diet (slimming club) has failed you”. Then, when you bring it to the attention of 80/20 that the plan isn’t working for you and you haven’t lost weight, suddenly Dan and his cronies are all “you have failed”, “you’re only complaining because you’re a failure and haven’t put in the work”. Well which is it? Can’t have it both ways!!!

 

[ginge2804]

The reason he hasn’t named the prizes up for grabs is because the prizes depends entirely on how many people comment and enter. If only 10 people bother he won’t give away anything decent because it won’t have been worth it

 

[GeordieMunchkin666]

... I keep seeing vids of DJ coming up on my fyp and I'm just like why is no one telling him he needs to actually LOOSE weight not just improve his mobility. He'll still have fat around his organs etc (I'm not a health expert by any means so correct me if I'm wrong) and there's something called viseral fat (not sure how that works) that needs to come down too?

Lots of people leave comments on DJ's videos telling him he's not losing any weight but for every comment saying this there's about 30 telling him he looks amazing. And it's these same people encouraging him to eat more. Talk about being an enabler
And when he says how many pints he's drank or how much he's eaten they comment "Legend"

 

[Anamethatisatleast25chara]

Lots of people leave comments on DJ's videos telling him he's not losing any weight but for every comment saying this there's about 30 telling him he looks amazing. And it's these same people encouraging him to eat more. Talk about being an enabler
And when he says how many pints he's drank or how much he's eaten they comment "Legend"

Latest one he’s answered saying yes he will weigh himself when he’s home from hols and will tell people - hang on, thought you could throw away your scales on 80/20 and absolutely no weighing was allowed?

 

[Coconutclub]

I know I keep banging on about this but he's literally putting people's lives in danger. Yeah it's sort of down to them for believing the hype but when you're desperate and an "expert" comes along and promises you you can loose weight and still eat what you want,who can blame them? I keep seeing vids of DJ coming up on my fyp and I'm just like why is no one telling him he needs to actually LOOSE weight not just improve his mobility. He'll still have fat around his organs etc (I'm not a health expert by any means so correct me if I'm wrong) and there's something called viseral fat (not sure how that works) that needs to come down too? I mean after how awful him and C were I can't wait til they day they realise DW has conned them but I don't wish them physical harm which is what DW is doing to them in my opinion. Sorry for the rant it's just been on my mind for a few days and me and my partner had a talk about all these fad diets and "miracle cures" yesterday and it just made me think x

He is putting lives in danger.

I think that the most dangerous thing is that (IMO) Dan Wheeler honestly thinks that he knows what he is talking about. He is a narcissist - he can't even contemplate not being the authority on absolutely everything.

Remember when he came back to that lady on TT who said she was following Dr Greger and he straight faced said -"I've also studied this most of my life as well" - I mean it's embarrasing. Nothing wrong with looking in to things on the internet, but you can't equate that to years of medical training and a research team at Cornell. That made me realise that he actually thinks he is as acomplished.

There was a live he did recently and Dan Jones joined in and he said he was aiming to get to a certain weight to do a dexa scan and the Dan W said we need to get you a blood test to see if you still have diabetes Now I'm no doctor, but I really don't think either of those things are going to show the results you think they will! Look at DJ's holiday tiktoks - he is binge drinking every day, the food looks horrendous, there is not a vegetable in sight and he looks as big as ever - not to mention he is badly out of breath when he walks. I think any responsible person would not have used DJ as a project. He has spoken about his serious health issues, including sleep apnea and almost dying. This man does not need a lifestyle plan -this man needs medical support and shouldn't be disuaded in the way that he has been to overlook doctors advice.

 

[sofaz56]

Lots of people leave comments on DJ's videos telling him he's not losing any weight but for every comment saying this there's about 30 telling him he looks amazing. And it's these same people encouraging him to eat more. Talk about being an enabler
And when he says how many pints he's drank or how much he's eaten they comment "Legend"

I'm sick to death of people saying "you're doing so well we can see your ears!" You can see my ears but I'm still overweight! Also I've watched programmes about morbidly obese people and I'm sure I've seen their ears aswell .

He is putting lives in danger.

I think that the most dangerous thing is that (IMO) Dan Wheeler honestly thinks that he knows what he is talking about. He is a narcissist - he can't even contemplate not being the authority on absolutely everything.

Remember when he came back to that lady on TT who said she was following Dr Greger and he straight faced said -"I've also studied this most of my life as well" - I mean it's embarrasing. Nothing wrong with looking in to things on the internet, but you can't equate that to years of medical training and a research team at Cornell. That made me realise that he actually thinks he is as acomplished.

There was a live he did recently and Dan Jones joined in and he said he was aiming to get to a certain weight to do a dexa scan and the Dan W said we need to get you a blood test to see if you still have diabetes Now I'm no doctor, but I really don't think either of those things are going to show the results you think they will! Look at DJ's holiday tiktoks - he is binge drinking every day, the food looks horrendous, there is not a vegetable in sight and he looks as big as ever - not to mention he is badly out of breath when he walks. I think any responsible person would not have used DJ as a project. He has spoken about his serious health issues, including sleep apnea and almost dying. This man does not need a lifestyle plan -this man needs medical support and shouldn't be disuaded in the way that he has been to overlook doctors advice.

This! And to turn down potentially life saving surgery (I'm not saying everyone has to have Gastric band/sleeve surgery but I know to be offered it on the NHS which is stretched to the core,is probably quite rare and surely a good thing?) is just mind boggling. I know lots of people who have lost loads of weight without surgery but theyve followed a very strict diet or dare i say SW or WW (I've tried both,not for me but I wouldn't bash them because I know they have worked for some people),not a "lifestyle plan" run by some one who got his qualifications from the internet!

 

[Anamethatisatleast25chara]

I'm sick to death of people saying "you're doing so well we can see your ears!" You can see my ears but I'm still overweight! Also I've watched programmes about morbidly obese people and I'm sure I've seen their ears aswell .


This! And to turn down potentially life saving surgery (I'm not saying everyone has to have Gastric band/sleeve surgery but I know to be offered it on the NHS which is stretched to the core,is probably quite rare and surely a good thing?) is just mind boggling. I know lots of people who have lost loads of weight without surgery but theyve followed a very strict diet or dare i say SW or WW (I've tried both,not for me but I wouldn't bash them because I know they have worked for some people),not a "lifestyle plan" run by some one who got his qualifications from the internet!

Just a thought but remember he started DJ on 4000 calories then he was moved up to 5000 don’t think it was too long after - but I bet he was losing weight on 4000 so why then move him up to 5000 I don’t care how big you are 4000 cals has got to be enough right especially if your eating nutritionally good stuff and veg and fruit easily
eat loads of veg and protein for those cals - I remember being absolutely gobsmacked when he then said he was then on 5000 DJ needs to move away from DW take the mobility he’s gained with him (fair play to him for that) and cut a 1000
cals easily to get some weight off him quickly - I know it’s best to lose weight slowly but for his health he could do with shifting a fair few stone quicker than he has been doing

 

[Coconutclub]

I think Dan Jones' holiday tiktoks are not helping DW one bit, they have come at the worst time. DW and 8020 are getting loads more negativity and then at the same time the Jones' are proving to everyone that this isn't a lifestyle rather than a diet, because they can't stick to it when on holiday. It hasn't cured his binging at all, because he hasn't stopped eating and drinking. He seems to be oblivious to calories in beer. There is no 80% nutrition. This is not a family who's 'lives have been changed'.
To use a tiktok trend: "tell me your lifestyle plan is just a diet, without telling me your lifestyle plan is just a diet"...

Just a thought but remember he started DJ on 4000 calories then he was moved up to 5000 don’t think it was too long after - but I bet he was losing weight on 4000 so why then move him up to 5000 I don’t care how big you are 4000 cals has got to be enough right especially if your eating nutritionally good stuff and veg and fruit easily
eat loads of veg and protein for those cals - I remember being absolutely gobsmacked when he then said he was then on 5000 DJ needs to move away from DW take the mobility he’s gained with him (fair play to him for that) and cut a 1000
cals easily to get some weight off him quickly - I know it’s best to lose weight slowly but for his health he could do with shifting a fair few stone quicker than he has been doing

You're right - he should cut his losses now - he hasn't gained anything nutrition / diet wise. The only progress he has made is to be inspired to be more active.
The sad thing is if he had lost weight slowly he would still be miles ahead. Some months he hasn't even lost a pound and apparently thats because of his training - remember those photos DW showed, where he looked no different.