Carrie Hope Fletcher #103 Wife of the star of the latest Barclaycard advert

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Ok. I watched it. It does seem like he was a genuine fan and followed his career, met him multiple times and eventually worked with him.
He seemed genuinely emotional. He said something about trolls and there was no room for negatively when talking about loss.
So, I won’t say anything negative as he did know him, worked with him and was a fan of him.
See, we can be nice
 
Ok. I watched it. It does seem like he was a genuine fan and followed his career, met him multiple times and eventually worked with him.
He seemed genuinely emotional. He said something about trolls and there was no room for negatively when talking about loss.
So, I won’t say anything negative as he did know him, worked with him and was a fan of him.
See, we can be nice
I saw the bit in the live where Joel was talking about trolls and it was because someone in the live comments said that nobody had a bad word to say about Gavin and someone responded something along the lines of ‘I have something bad to say about him - he wasn’t very nice to Americans.’

It didn’t really make sense, there wasn’t much context and did seem out of place where the person in question had passed away. Joel seemed confused about what the poster meant and it seemed he started to read the comment out before realising it was someone being a dick - he was right to call it out imo in this situation.
 
I think that's fair. It does seem excessive, but I'll admit that very public displays of grief on social media are just not my thing, so that's on me.
I agree, I wrote on the west end thread similar. I just felt like he does know him, and it’s not a random he met once. However, he could have not titled it the way he did and just gone on live and organically spoke about him
 
Friend went tonight. She is in the arts so I was interested to hear what she was thinking.

“Carrie’s voice hasn’t recovered from pregnancy. It seemed like everything was lots of effort. Could see every note in her face. Wasn’t very authentic. Everything seemed very scripted and staged. She brought out her brother to sing a song from Christmasaurus. He was 10x as charismatic as her. She told a story about calling her mum all the time and then sang Home from Beetlejuice, which I thought was a little strange with it being about a dead mum and her alive mum was in the audience. She also sang Death is Just Around the Corner from Addams. Good song, well sung. But I would have cut it with all of theatre land grieving Gavin Creel. It felt a bit bad taste in the moment. Worth the ten quid we spent. Seats in the dress.”


I think bringing out her brother was on the bingo card, no?
 

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What. In. The. Actual. Delulu. duck. 🤢

So the person that’s written this is an actor who was in frozen with the love of carries life Oliver. Is he ok? What a weird thing to put! Even if she was old enough to text, why would she text a random friend of her mums and say “That’s my Mum!”
Yes. I know it’s all a joke and no one thinks Mabelline is texting at 9 months, but it’s just a strange thing to pretend!
Why are so many MT people so OTT with everything. It’s often;
“Stupidly talented” (ozxymoron- so it looks like they’re saying they have no talent {Joel uses this a lot})
“Wonderful Human”- this is a very common one. Are people confused that she is a cat?

In this case;

She’s a “Joy” I beg to differ, she looks like she’s been kidnapped in photos, and far from full of joy. It seems that she doesn’t have a huge amount of friends, and I can imagine she’s challenging and needy to be friends with. I’d say the only time I’ve seen her joyful is when she’s around Scott. Whenever she’s with Joel, she’s often scowling or looks pissed off, until she sees he’s recording and puts on that fake smile.

“Inspiration” I mean, he’s been in a successful show more recently than her, so not sure why she’s inspirational to him?
“Inspiration is a feeling of enthusiasm you get from someone or something, that gives you new and creative ideas”. I don’t think Carrie falls into that explanation. She’s hardly a creative genius! Singing other people’s songs, in a set/format designed by other people. Oh I forgot, she once co wrote a musical for Steven Spielberg. That really successful and memorable musical…

“Total Godess” Hmmmm.
“A woman whose great charm or beauty arouses adoration”
I don’t think she oozes charm, she’s passive aggressive, arsey, rude to her most loyal fans, and seems fake.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and we all are attracted to different people. She isn’t someone I immediately think of if I was asked to describe a beautiful woman, but she’s obviously been desired by her exes and stalker husband.

Arouses Adoration? Well clearly Zuko is 😂 Her obsessed dress alike fans do too. I think of that accolade as someone who is adored, for being talented, kind, hard working, keeps learning their craft to keep being the best they can be. Things that people look up in someone for. Not someone who openly doesn’t do any training, or learning of lines until the last minute. Not someone who hasn’t ever had formal training, yet thinks she knows it all and can teach people.

Can you tell I’m bored, and irritated by hospital noises?
 
So the person that’s written this is an actor who was in frozen with the love of carries life Oliver. Is he ok? What a weird thing to put! Even if she was old enough to text, why would she text a random friend of her mums and say “That’s my Mum!”
Yes. I know it’s all a joke and no one thinks Mabelline is texting at 9 months, but it’s just a strange thing to pretend!
Why are so many MT people so OTT with everything. It’s often;
“Stupidly talented” (ozxymoron- so it looks like they’re saying they have no talent {Joel uses this a lot})
“Wonderful Human”- this is a very common one. Are people confused that she is a cat?

In this case;

She’s a “Joy” I beg to differ, she looks like she’s been kidnapped in photos, and far from full of joy. It seems that she doesn’t have a huge amount of friends, and I can imagine she’s challenging and needy to be friends with. I’d say the only time I’ve seen her joyful is when she’s around Scott. Whenever she’s with Joel, she’s often scowling or looks pissed off, until she sees he’s recording and puts on that fake smile.

“Inspiration” I mean, he’s been in a successful show more recently than her, so not sure why she’s inspirational to him?
“Inspiration is a feeling of enthusiasm you get from someone or something, that gives you new and creative ideas”. I don’t think Carrie falls into that explanation. She’s hardly a creative genius! Singing other people’s songs, in a set/format designed by other people. Oh I forgot, she once co wrote a musical for Steven Spielberg. That really successful and memorable musical…

“Total Godess” Hmmmm.
“A woman whose great charm or beauty arouses adoration”
I don’t think she oozes charm, she’s passive aggressive, arsey, rude to her most loyal fans, and seems fake.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and we all are attracted to different people. She isn’t someone I immediately think of if I was asked to describe a beautiful woman, but she’s obviously been desired by her exes and stalker husband.

Arouses Adoration? Well clearly Zuko is 😂 Her obsessed dress alike fans do too. I think of that accolade as someone who is adored, for being talented, kind, hard working, keeps learning their craft to keep being the best they can be. Things that people look up in someone for. Not someone who openly doesn’t do any training, or learning of lines until the last minute. Not someone who hasn’t ever had formal training, yet thinks she knows it all and can teach people.

Can you tell I’m bored, and irritated by hospital noises?
Sorry to hear you are in hospital, make random loud beeping noises in response to assert your dominance.
I hope you are okay, sending you love ❤
(most definitely not the passive aggressive type)
 
I don’t think she cares how they were sold, or for how much. In her head, if it was full, she is still the Queen of the West End. I assume are gets paid, regardless if ticket sales are good or bad, so to her, it won’t matter.
Even if she was told they’d reduced prices or given freebies, I honestly think she would metaphorically put her fingers in her ears and screech loudly.
She’ll only care that she can say she “sold out the palladium” (which she didn’t this time)
Or when she doesn’t get asked to do another solo tour because it wasn’t profitable for Lambert and Butler 😏
By that point, she’ll prob let Zuko near her again, get pregnant and use being a mumma of two, as a reason she can’t ever work again
 
Since when does pregnancy change your voice? Sam Barks never had a problem in Frozen afterwards!

Can the lazy untalented cow stop using pregnancy, birth, Mabel as an excuse 🙄

Also, yes Joel might be upset but talk about it with someone that knew him, I hate people doing lives or loads and loads of posts about dead people, I find it quite disrespectful to their family.
 
I agree, it seems like Joel is actually quite sad and knew Gavin, but atp he's 100% using his death to get attention, which I find gross. I don't want to tell anyone how to grieve, but making 3 different videos about it and this being typical Joel behaviour.. nah, he's just desperate for people to look at him
 
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