Britney Spears #10

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Doyouknowwhatimean said:
Jamie lynn and Lynne's books really were a pile of p****, they were both badly written cash grabs.

I'm expecting Brits book to be similar. I'm strongly sensing this now because they've announced Brits book will be released on an imprint of the main publisher, i don't think that bodes well... Usually means they don't have the creme de creme editors on it, or they don't want it associated with their main brand.
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I don’t think it’s a good idea to encourage her by buying it in some ways, at this stage it’s just seemingly funding a possible drug habit, her untruths, slander, and venting her spiteful behaviour.

Yes, she is unwell, but that isn’t an excuse for making unpleasant comments about her niece, her children, random people she took a dislike to, and lying about the security guard incident to get him into trouble and abusing animals. It’s perfectly possible to be ill and to behave badly, just as the converse is true.

But I’m very curious to know second hand what it’s like. I can’t imagine she wrote any of it herself, it will be heavily ghostwritten.
 
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Keep an eye on the Waterstones website; they often get signed copies because the 'author' will visit the publisher/W head office and sign a thousand copies of their new book rather than do signing events. So you may get a signed one....

I could see her turning up at the big Picadilly Circus store (everyone has signed there) but would laugh my balls off if she turned up somewhere like Bluewater or Lakeside to sign copies 😂
 
ElChanguito said:
I was just coming here to say about the heavy breathing!! Scared the crap out of me 🤮 Apparently it’s Sam? Hard to tell.
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It’s scary that she can’t sound coherent or on track even for a full minute! The first bit looks coached too, then she seems a bit aggressive and confrontational. If her videos are supervised and moderated by him duck knows what she’s like when fully let loose.
 
InkHeart said:
I have a mental health condition that gives me horrible verbal ticks - it's like a dissociative thing, if I'm going to have a PTSD flashback, my brain goes into overdrive to do anything to distract me. The words are nonsense and are usually echolalia (repeating something you heard somewhere else). So I might say something innocent like "Smithers!" Or I might say something horrible like "Please kill me." I'm not actually speaking to anyone, it's just an unstoppable tic. I usually try to cover my mouth with my hand, but even then you can still tell I'm saying something.

Last year I left a job I loved because it was customer facing, and the stress was making my tics get worse. Something I was saying a lot at the time was "Cut my hair off", which I don't know where that's from or what it means, but obviously it makes me look insane. It's really sad for me that I have to go around saying these things, because people avoid me since I look like I'm dangerously deranged, which I'm not. My workplace were kind and said "You mustn't try to suppress the tics because it's not your fault you have this disability"... but I just knew that I can't work serving customers when I randomly say things that could scare them. It's not like every single time it happens, I can say "Sorry, it's just a tic, I didn't mean it", especially to someone I'm only ever going to interact with for 20 seconds.

So I left that job. I was completely heartbroken, but I knew I had to do it. I got a job where I can work in an office alone so that I don't have the humiliation of people seeing my tics and I don't upset other people with them. I deliberately have to not have relationships, because I know that the heightened emotions make me too unstable and I can't behave properly. I took myself off social media for years because (like a certain someone!) I wrote embarrassing stuff on there when I was crazy.

I've been in therapy for many years and I'm on a lot of medication, so I've made a load of progress in the past decade, but at this rate it looks like I'll always be very far from a normal life. But (to toot my own horn) because I am a nice and thoughtful person, I do these things to limit damage to other people. It's heckin' sad for me to be unable to have a life that other people take for granted, but I have integrity: I know I'm mentally ill to the extent that I can't control some things, so I have to do the best with what I can control. I do that because I understand that other people are as important as I am, and I don't have a free pass to hurt them.

Even this woman I know who has major mental health issues, is very difficult and does a lot of drugs, recognised that her mental health was too bad to care for her cats, so she gave them to her sister who has a nice home for them.

When Britney posts about how awful her sons are for not speaking to her, we see that she has never had a moment of clarity or empathy like "I want them to be happy, and maybe the way I behave is too much for them." It's possible that she can't control how she behaves, but in that case she has to allow that other people might have to avoid her.

Britney was in 24 hour care for years because of her mental health and behaviour, yet she has never admitted that she has ANY problems. She always comes out guns blazing "Other people are the problem, I will behave however I want." Who can be in the most serious mental health conservatorship for years and not once wonder if they might actually have problems? Even if there was nothing wrong with you, it would cross your mind, right?

There is such a thing as "lack of insight" which means when someone is so ill that they are far removed from reality so they don't think they're being weird. But even if she doesn't think she's mentally ill, she knows she's shaking her bum on Instagram, she knows she's doing [whatever it is that makes that poor doggy so tense around her], and I personally think she's doing drink and drugs, which she will also know about. Yet she never has had one moment of "Maybe it's embarrassing for my sons that they can see their mom shaking her butt in front of millions or people." "Maybe if the dog doesn't like me, I should find out what I need to do to make him feel at ease." "Why do all my friends stop speaking to me, am I doing something wrong?" "I shouldn't have said Xtina was chubby, that would obviously be hurtful." "There is dog tit on the floor, am I really ok with that?" Nothing, nada, ever. To this extent, Britney knows how she acts. She just doesn't want to be held accountable. If she thought her behaviour was ok, why would she hide her drink and drug use?

Sorry, I think I write these huge posts because of my cognitive problems 😅
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This is all really interesting and very insightful so please don’t feel you have to apologise!
I’m sorry you went through all that and lost a job you loved. It must be very upsetting.

You sound like a very empathetic person. One certainly can’t always control mental health conditions and often the only solution is to work around them. I can really empathise with this.

Although it’s different and not as difficult as your condition sounds for you, I have ADHD and get really upset when people align unempathetic or cruel behaviour with mental health conditions. It feels subtly different to saying ‘lets have empathy for X’ and more like ‘neurodiverse/mentally ill people are all irrational children and aren’t capable of moral standards. And I think that undermines what most of them go through and the efforts they put in.

My experience with mentally ill people is that they are often more empathetic and kind than the average person, because they understand what it is to be struggling and in pain and go to great lengths to protect others. Sometimes of course that can’t be wholly avoided, but the intent is there.

There is a lot of nuance that is hard to convey on a forum, and with mental illness and neurodivergence sometimes yes there are things we can’t do (or do in a way deemed ‘normal’ or ‘typical.’ And that shouldn’t be leveraged to shame people. It’s awful to stigmatise someone for Tourette’s and to be stigmatised, of course it might be a bit confusing for others as you recognise, but you should at least have been given some options for reasonable adjustment IMO.

There is such a delicate balancing act and part of being connected to others is being aware of that- I like the way you described your approach to that. I do somewhat similar, in that I have to make compromises and adjustments while still accepting myself and trying not to overabsorb shame when I see my limitations. But also trying to push myself to learn new things and to see other perspectives.

When someone behaves in a downright nasty way (as you say Britney with her children is a good example), and observers attribute that solely to mental health and exonerate it, I think it kinda stigmatizes mental illness and undermines the fact that we are constantly making moral choices to help others, even if we’re ill or neurodivergent.

Accountability is also such a great point. It’s a bit like a compass, one can certainly wobble and make errors but there needs to be some basic willingness to consider it in order to live in the world.

If she can’t be accountable at all or properly empathise, she has no moral compass, and in that case it seems she may be something of a danger to herself and other people, and perhaps should be under more structured care to compensate. If she isn’t responsible for anything she does and can’t be, and is incapable of considering those she interacts with, somebody else needs to do it. And I don’t think these issues should be enabled by her audiences.

Part of it comes down to the question of whether morals apply if the individual can’t understand them. If she genuinely can’t, then there’s no fair cause to blame her but she should also then have a proxy to do that for her.
 
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Copacapybara said:
It’s scary that she can’t sound coherent or on track even for a full minute! The first bit looks coached too, then she seems a bit aggressive and confrontational. If her videos are supervised and moderated by him duck knows what she’s like when fully let loose.
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It’s definitely scripted because she says the exact same sentences and sings the same song as in the previous video where she is holding the camera/phone herself. How the heck would she cope with doing a promo junket for the book unless she has an autocue to read her answers 😳
 
ElChanguito said:
It’s definitely scripted because she says the exact same sentences and sings the same song as in the previous video where she is holding the camera/phone herself. How the heck would she cope with doing a promo junket for the book unless she has an autocue to read her answers 😳
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I wonder how responsible all this is on the part of her manager…how would negative reviews land, for example? Does it have some therapeutic or creative purpose and how true is it? Will it just generate more random feuds?

I really hope she isn’t pushed into any promo stuff because she obviously isn’t well enough to do it and it’s going to be negative publicity for her 😬 It’s very hard to know what her default state really is at this stage.
 
Copacapybara said:
I wonder how responsible all this is on the part of her manager…how would negative reviews land, for example? Does it have some therapeutic or creative purpose and how true is it? Will it just generate more random feuds?

I really hope she isn’t pushed into any promo stuff because she obviously isn’t well enough to do it and it’s going to be negative publicity for her 😬 It’s very hard to know what her default state really is at this stage.
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Does she even have a manager at this point? Genuine question as I actually don't know.
 
wthamidoinghere said:
Does she even have a manager at this point? Genuine question as I actually don't know.
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I just kinda assumed she must have as she doesn’t seem able to coordinate any of this herself, but it’s pretty confusing. I guess they would only have limited influence over non-career stuff though, and she isn’t doing much musically at the moment so there isn’t a great deal for them to do…
 
Just me who got some slight Amanda Bynes vibes from this video? The look in her eyes, the way she speaks, the angle, felt immediately like she reminded me of someone but couldn’t put my finger on it. And I don’t mean they look the same, just the mannerisms and way of talking and looking into the phone

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ElChanguito said:
It’s definitely scripted because she says the exact same sentences and sings the same song as in the previous video where she is holding the camera/phone herself. How the heck would she cope with doing a promo junket for the book unless she has an autocue to read her answers 😳
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Its just so strange isn't it how both videos she says the exact same thing even the bizarre rambling at the end and putting the sunglasses on.

How much of this is mental illness and how much of it is drugs, because she reminds me of one of my family members who has quite serious mental illness but also takes and mixes drugs in combination with her prescription meds and it massively exacerbates her mental illness and she has at times been hospitalised when she has been hitting the drugs hard, due to episodes of delusions and psychosis and saying things that haven't even happened and accusing the whole family of things like stalking her and watching her through the tv. I see alot of this in Britney and I can tell she's on drugs.
 
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She clearly isn’t taking care of herself. She looks grubby/sweaty, she never has brushed/styled hair, she wears the same clothes and shoes all the time, she has old makeup smushed on her face, she isn’t using her retainer (?) he teeth are spreading quite a lot, she never had gaps between her teeth but in her more recent videos she does and people are saying it’s due to not wearing something at night, I’d guess retainer. She just twirls and seems pretty vacant, her husband doesn’t seem very nice and apart from her wedding she doesn’t seem to see any friends or anything. I think she has mental health issues but doesn’t think she does, hence wanting to be ‘free’, but the symptoms/effects of her mental illness are things that upset her so she self medicates.

I’m not a professional (as you can probably tell 😂) but from some personal knowledge that’s what it looks like to me. That’s probably why she wants a ‘public apology’, she believes if she gets that everyone will ‘know’ she was right and won’t blame her. The same as when she wanted to be free, she believed then everyone would stop thinking she was ill and needed help. She thinks her dancing is amazing/sexy and will show everyone she’s not ‘past it’ and she’s talented and beautiful and ‘well’.

It’s a shame her family have abandoned her/she alienated them (depending on what you read), if she was my daughter/sister, I’d want to make her a cup of tea, put her in a hot bath, take out her ratty hair extensions, give her a good talking to and put her in rehab and counselling - if only life were so easy!
 
orangehead said:
It’s a shame her family have abandoned her/she alienated them (depending on what you read), if she was my daughter/sister, I’d want to make her a cup of tea, put her in a hot bath, take out her ratty hair extensions, give her a good talking to and put her in rehab and counselling - if only life were so easy!
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I did this for years with my sister, over and over again, until I had a nervous breakdown because I couldn't cope anymore. Sadly, there's just no helping some people, unless it's forced help like with Britney's conservatorship.
 
Pumpkin84 said:
I did this for years with my sister, over and over again, until I had a nervous breakdown because I couldn't cope anymore. Sadly, there's just no helping some people, unless it's forced help like with Britney's conservatorship.
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Exactly, it’s not that easy to help someone who doesn’t want to be helped/isn’t ready to be helped is it. I’m sorry you went through that with your sister, I’ve had a similar experience and what you want to do and what you know will help/what you can actually cope with doing are often very different things.
 
So many inconsistencies in her latest video… her security had to stop 3 twelve year olds from getting to her, without touching them and “without even getting near them”. How did they manage that? The security stopped the fans WITH THEIR MINDS? Then she goes on to say that the security guard backhanded her, resulting in her face being hit and she was on the ground and her friend had to pick her up. Why would she say something that is so easily disproven? We’ve all seen the video, she wasn’t on the floor! Unless she crumpled to the floor after they walked away, in which case that’s not a direct result of the initial contact.
 
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She's really mentally unwell, even Sam (I assume) tells her "too much, too much" when she starts going on about Bermuda. She seems deranged!
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blahblahboring said:
So many inconsistencies in her latest video… her security had to stop 3 twelve year olds from getting to her, without touching them and “without even getting near them”. How did they manage that? The security stopped the fans WITH THEIR MINDS? Then she goes on to say that the security guard backhanded her, resulting in her face being hit and she was on the ground and her friend had to pick her up. Why would she say something that is so easily disproven? We’ve all seen the video, she wasn’t on the floor! Unless she crumpled to the floor after they walked away, in which case that’s not a direct result of the initial contact.
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I wouldn't put it past her to crumple to the floor after they'd walked away for dramatic effect.
 
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