Brian Dowling #2 Brian, Orthur & baby make three. How much stuff can we blag for free?

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Efilelttat said:
Seeing the baby mooch looking for milk is hard for me because my instinct as a mother or 'a peron who birthed a baby' is to hold it and feed it. Also agree so many visitors at such an early stage is risky. You'd think they'd want to bond with the baby instead of having so many people in.
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It's normal for a baby to mooch though, not all babies that are birthed by their mother breastfeed. It's just what babies do.
 
I don’t think the issue is two men having a baby. My concern for Aoife would be the same had she had every whim catered for by two women for the last 9 months, treatments galore, constant help and attention, constant company, and then suddenly it’s all gone overnight once you are no longer useful and they have got what they wanted from you. I don’t mean to be harsh about it and I’m sure they all think they are doing the right thing here - because really what even is the right thing to do? It’s such a unique situation.

But it’s not wrong to feel concern and sadness for her and it has nothing to do with Brian and Arthur being gay. There was a vulnerability to her anyway and the reality is that after birth can be a very lonely place at the best of times, and that’s when you have a partner and your baby in your arms. There’s no doubt about it that she will be going through it hormonally and there’s nothing wrong with acknowledging that and hoping she is ok.
 
Efilelttat said:
Seeing the baby mooch looking for milk is hard for me because my instinct as a mother or 'a peron who birthed a baby' is to hold it and feed it. Also agree so many visitors at such an early stage is risky. You'd think they'd want to bond with the baby instead of having so many people in.
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Oh come on, they're hardly the first couple in history to be inundated with visitors for a new/first baby. I definitely was, total circus for weeks.

And dragging up Covid risks is really reaching. The baby has just spent days in a hospital with hundreds of strangers circulating. I'm sure she's safer in her own home.

MiamooMoo said:
I’m not a COVID Warrior at all but god I’d be nervous with a new born and so many people around the new baba unmasked
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Irishgirl14 said:
Why just became two men became dads and not the normal "mum and dad" were not in the stone ages anymore why can't two men not be dads?
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It’s not even to do with them. We live in a society where people with money selfishly think they can get what they want, it’s like picking something off a shelf in a shop, except it’s a real baby. It’s nothing to do with it being men because I would question the ethics of it in a heterosexual couple too. It’s not like it was Aoife’s egg - it was an anonymous donor egg. Do we know what quality of life the donor woman leads? In future, will their baby know their genetic heritage? On a practical level, how will she prevent herself from going out with a relation of hers, unbeknownst to her? Will she have the right to know where she came from or had that been decided already because adults think of their own wants before the child? It’s the same questions regardless of the gender / sexuality of the parents
 
WhittlingIhopMonkey said:
Oh come on, they're hardly the first couple in history to be inundated with visitors for a new/first baby. I definitely was, total circus for weeks.

And dragging up Covid risks is really reaching. The baby has just spent days in a hospital with hundreds of strangers circulating. I'm sure she's safer in her own home.
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We had a winter baby before covid was a thing and were told in hospital and by our GP to limit visitors and have people wash their hands as it was cold and flu season.

My friend wanted to visit and they all had colds. She didn't think a small, newborn baby could do without the germs and didn't really see why we told her to wait. Some people are idiots and don't think about the risks. I'd always be wary with a new baby, covid or not.
 
Whenthelightsturntostars said:
We had a winter baby before covid was a thing and were told in hospital and by our GP to limit visitors and have people wash their hands as it was cold and flu season.

My friend wanted to visit and they all had colds. She didn't think a small, newborn baby could do without the germs and didn't really see why we told her to wait. Some people are idiots and don't think about the risks. I'd always be wary with a new baby, covid or not.
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It's not a winter baby though.

Throwing shade at them for wanting to show the baby off to *checks notes* their other neices and nephews and Pippa their neighbour and close friend is a bit much imo.
 
WhittlingIhopMonkey said:
It's not a winter baby though.

Throwing shade at them for wanting to show the baby off to *checks notes* their other neices and nephews and Pippa their neighbour and close friend is a bit much imo.
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Back to school and nursery + young children = all the germs.

No matter the season, I'd still be careful. I didn't pass shade at them for wanting to have visitors. They can do what they want.
 
These 2 ordinary, everyday guys are constantly campaigning for surrogacy in Ireland. They have been through it themselves and post lots of information on their pages about surrogacy which B and A never do. I'm sure many of you follow them. They've posted a lovely message of Congratulations and I'm wondering if it will be reposted by Brian or Orthur. I can't help feeling that Brian and Orthur want nothing to do with them. Not that they have to..but they are fighting for the same rights.
Just something I've wondered for a while. I hope I'm proven wrong😊
 

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I'd like to say its really their attitude that irks me. The publicity they've looked to generate out of this. Its not against gay parents but more the disregard they had at the start for aoife and donor. "We're pregnant" "we've suffered so long" no you are not/ haven't. You are two men that had to go down a surrogacy route surprisingly.
 
Just saw their stories and no doubt this little baby will be adored and loved and that’s the main thing. Regardless of selling their story and filming and begging - that I really didnt like. But seeing them with the child, It would make you smile because they seem genuinely happy and I really don’t like Brian! 😂Maybe this will be the making of him as it’ll be about his little daughter now.
I can’t begrudge a couple happiness having a wanted baby and I think Aoife will be in good hands with her sisters and will God willing be emotionally and physically ok after the birth. All credit has to go to her in fairness.
 
Watching BDG tell us all how tired he is this morning, and then having a nap for himself is making me so mad! He literally did nothing, he can start complaining a bit being tired when his body has been ripped apart from childbirth, but sitting in a treatment chair getting facials every day is hardly exhausting. Get over yourself BDG!
 
I doubt she is living her best life ffs. Even if she is doing okay she’s still recovering from major surgery and will be in bits from that alone. Why do they have to sugar coat everything? Can they not say Aoife is doing well, she’s recovering and being well minded after the section. Glossing over the sometimes brutal after effects of major abdominal surgery just so he appears better.
 
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