Ayse and Zeliha Clark #3 Beige baby number two, moving house is all they do

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You can have a break without being in a completely different country to your babies for a week 😂 Being a parent is a responsibility, suck up whatever issues you have (most of us can’t afford any kind of break or even get medical help for mental health issues but we survive) and put your children first for a few years 🤷🏻‍♀️ don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time 😂😂
 
I respect a consideration for her mental health, and assuming we don't know what's going on behind social media. But she's literally in OKU, Ibiza for 5 nights living it up in the influencer place to be, getting content left, right and centre. She's said it was a surprise from Jack, unfortunately on this occasion I think it is more about their own self indulgence and showing off than it is taking care of any PND she might have. Plus they're off on another family holiday next week she's stated. Mothers receiving support for PND will have every effort made to be kept with their babies, not jetting off for a luxury influencer week in Ibiza. If this is for her mental health do you really think Jack taking her away like this is a good idea...
 
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Ok I take back what I said about her needing a break possibly due to poor mental health etc as I've just seen her say its a present from Jack 🫣

However I don't really see the big deal of her having a few days away from the girls. It doesn't make her any less "maternal" - and that was the comment that I really didn't like.
 
I don't think we should be criticising Ayse taking a break from her kids I think we just need to recognise that parenting styles are different. She's alluded to the fact that she had a bit of post natal depression so I think her taking a break to just have some peace is a lot better than her not taking a break and something really horrible happening to her in the future where her kids are left without her if it got too much. I get that it might be easier to criticise her because she's an influencer and her job is very flexible but we shouldn't be making such bold statements even on a forum like this and if that was the car I could argue that people that leave their kids to go back to work are 'less maternal' which is not correct. Also it's wild that we have assumed Jack doesn't have money because he is unemployed, he's a trust fund baby he is doing just fine 😅
 
I thought it was an odd choice for them to go on holiday whilst they had two small children, especially with mila being 4 months old. It is not something I would do (unless In special circumstances)
Originally I thought the holiday was for Jacks birthday as he celebrated it not long after ayse but it seems like she’s stated HE booked it.
I understand all parents need a break from their kids however these two seem to have regular breaks since they both don’t have regular jobs. They had a night away for Ayse bday in a hotel and another night away for Jacks. Plus they have 5 holidays a year.

It seems funny as soon as it is mentioned on her about them leaving the kids and who has them Ayse has adressed it on Instagram. Firstly by saying kids are with her mum, secondly how much they miss them, on FaceTime with them and they have another family holiday booked. Thirdly now she’s answering questions about mental health. It appears she suffers from a lot of anxiety

also they never post on the joint channel anymore. Both are just posting on their individual channels so they clearly want split incomes now
 
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cba_2020 said:
I don't think we should be criticising Ayse taking a break from her kids I think we just need to recognise that parenting styles are different. She's alluded to the fact that she had a bit of post natal depression so I think her taking a break to just have some peace is a lot better than her not taking a break and something really horrible happening to her in the future where her kids are left without her if it got too much. I get that it might be easier to criticise her because she's an influencer and her job is very flexible but we shouldn't be making such bold statements even on a forum like this and if that was the car I could argue that people that leave their kids to go back to work are 'less maternal' which is not correct. Also it's wild that we have assumed Jack doesn't have money because he is unemployed, he's a trust fund baby he is doing just fine 😅
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I don't think anyone has assumed Jack doesn't have money? Just remarking on exactly that, him being a trust fund baby and not paying towards his first daughter.

I agree that we shouldn't be overly criticising her, especially with her PND. However this is a space where people can air their feelings on what influencers do very publicly, and most people have strong feelings about leaving a 4 month old baby for a flashy time in Ibiza booked as a present by the baby's father. That is worlds away from leaving your baby to go to work, or to overcome mental health struggles, or to have a little break, so while everyone has different parenting styles it does come across as self indulgent. We shouldn't not be able to express what we think about it, if Ayse doesn't want the criticism then she can keep her life private, with Jack she can afford to.
 
D_Wills said:
Ok I take back what I said about her needing a break possibly due to poor mental health etc as I've just seen her say its a present from Jack 🫣

However I don't really see the big deal of her having a few days away from the girls. It doesn't make her any less "maternal" - and that was the comment that I really didn't like.
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Dunno why you are taking such offence at a comment on rattle that isn’t about you!? Really seems to have hit a nerve 🤔. Her baby is 4 months it is extremely young to leave a baby with anyone else for basically a week. Anyone with half a brain would agree. And yes most mothers wouldn’t want to spend such a long time away from a baby that young.
 
crouchingcat said:
I thought it was an odd choice for them to go on holiday whilst they had two small children, especially with mila being 4 months old. It is not something I would do (unless In special circumstances)
Originally I thought the holiday was for Jacks birthday as he celebrated it not long after ayse but it seems like she’s stated HE booked it.
I understand all parents need a break from their kids however these two seem to have regular breaks since they both don’t have regular jobs. They had a night away for Ayse bday in a hotel and another night away for Jacks. Plus they have 5 holidays a year.

It seems funny as soon as it is mentioned on her about them leaving the kids and who has them Ayse has adressed it on Instagram. Firstly by saying kids are with her mum, secondly how much they miss them, on FaceTime with them and they have another family holiday booked. Thirdly now she’s answering questions about mental health. It appears she suffers from a lot of anxiety

also they never post on the joint channel anymore. Both are just posting on their individual channels so they clearly want split incomes now
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Funny how Ayse is replying to this thread via Instagram! Why would Jack book this holiday without asking her first, especially as the children are with AYSE'S mum who'd she would have had to ask before booking the holiday!
 
Every mother needs a break however I think what people are trying to say is couldn’t Jack have booked somewhere local for a night or two if the break was desperately needed? Baby is not far off a newborn lol

Given that they have a number of holidays a year anyway, Ibiza could have waited a few more months….

This also cannot be compared to regular people having to go back to work soon as we all know statutory maternity pay doesn’t go far especially with the cost of living increasing
 
Sunshine99 said:
I don't think anyone has assumed Jack doesn't have money? Just remarking on exactly that, him being a trust fund baby and not paying towards his first daughter.

I agree that we shouldn't be overly criticising her, especially with her PND. However this is a space where people can air their feelings on what influencers do very publicly, and most people have strong feelings about leaving a 4 month old baby for a flashy time in Ibiza booked as a present by the baby's father. That is worlds away from leaving your baby to go to work, or to overcome mental health struggles, or to have a little break, so while everyone has different parenting styles it does come across as self indulgent. We shouldn't not be able to express what we think about it, if Ayse doesn't want the criticism then she can keep her life private, with Jack she can afford to.
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I get what you're saying but the posts on here are speculations that are then being used as facts which is not right. Like Jack not paying child support, no one knows the fully story so we can't just assume this. I think it's just the way people express their thoughts, it feels very loaded without a whole lot of information to be able to validate it. I agree people should express their feelings there's just better ways to say things like saying Asye isn't maternal because she's been on one holiday without her kids is wild to me. I hate to be the person that brings up the 'be kind' mantra but there's ways to critique a person without it being fully or resentment and often if the person in question is reading here, they are much more likely to take that feedback onboard rather than focus on the anger behind the comment. Some influencers open themselves up to more savage comments because of the way they act but in this scenario I just don't think she deserves those types of comments. Maybe I'm just sensitive to how my words can affect others idk?!
 
Justmechan23 said:
Every mother needs a break however I think what people are trying to say is couldn’t Jack have booked somewhere local for a night or two if the break was desperately needed? Baby is not far off a newborn lol

Given that they have a number of holidays a year anyway, Ibiza could have waited a few more months….

This also cannot be compared to regular people having to go back to work soon as we all know statutory maternity pay doesn’t go far especially with the cost of living increasing
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Exactly, and since Maia was born they've already had multiple nights away closer to home in fancy London hotels etc.
 
Have we forgotten that this is conversation is about Ayse and not the pick me mothers who have suddenly found themselves on here taking offence for no reason🙃 If you haven’t taken your eyes off your child since they fell out of you then congrats and if you’ve barely spent any time with them since they were born then also congrats. It’s not relevant! Whether you agree or not, Ayse and Jack are extremely privileged and don’t need a break as much as regular 9-5 working folk. It’s strange to ditch your young children for a lavish holiday when you have so much time away from them as a ‘break’ anyway. With their lifestyle it just seems a little unnecessary.
 
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