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I actually don't have a problem with the Barbenheimer thing, I think it's cute and fun to do memes about hotly anticipated "boy" and "girl" movies coming out the same weekend. Nothing wrong with being excited about movies even though I'm not especially psyched for either one in this case.
 
WaWooWeeWa said:
I actually don't have a problem with the Barbenheimer thing, I think it's cute and fun to do memes about hotly anticipated "boy" and "girl" movies coming out the same weekend. Nothing wrong with being excited about movies even though I'm not especially psyched for either one in this case.
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The Barbenheimer thing isn’t the issue, it’s trying to create it with two movies that are nowhere near the same hype as it was. Marketing teams and trying their hardest to generate that kind of buzz again. That’s what makes it cringe.
 
Yupyupyup said:
The Barbenheimer thing isn’t the issue, it’s trying to create it with two movies that are nowhere near the same hype as it was. Marketing teams and trying their hardest to generate that kind of buzz again. That’s what makes it cringe.
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They try to do it with every big movie now. Tedious.

I'm surprised Gladiator 2 has sold 3/4 of the tickets of Wicked. I don't know anyone that has any interest in seeing it. For Wicked and Ari they both have huge fan bases.
 
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Around six months ago I read a comment somewhere that said Ethan looks like an imaginary friend and I haven’t stopped laughing about it since.
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Can someone think of a thread title for this omg 🤣
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Yupyupyup said:
The Barbenheimer thing isn’t the issue, it’s trying to create it with two movies that are nowhere near the same hype as it was. Marketing teams and trying their hardest to generate that kind of buzz again. That’s what makes it cringe.
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Yeah the thing is barbenheimer happened naturally because of the internet hype. Everything since screams of marketing teams trying to make fetch happen
 
Darktriad said:
I think of my daughter at aged 11 ( now 19 and more into Nivarna, thankfully) a massive Ariana fan. Now I look at these skeletal creatures and my heart breaks for anyone with young daughters
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Exactly. So many girls are going to idolise Ari and Cynthia. I've noticed Cynthia goes heathy on the shimmer highlight makeup on her cheek bones and browbones and that just makes you see 'skull' and 'skeletal'. They are both irresponsible and I am convinced Ariana is what has triggered Cynthia. They'll pretend to be besties but they'll be in competition with each other over their bodies. 😔 I've seen it happen in friendship groups when I was younger
 
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I’m a grown arse woman who suffers from anorexia. And I’m not blaming Ariana in any way, shape or form, but seeing her bones triggers me, and since this film is targeted to all ages I wonder what effect it will have on young girls who want to look like her. I know Paige Niemann is a very unhinged person, but even she lost a lot of weight.
 
Sinderella said:
I’m a grown arse woman who suffers from anorexia. And I’m not blaming Ariana in any way, shape or form, but seeing her bones triggers me, and since this film is targeted to all ages I wonder what effect it will have on young girls who want to look like her. I know Paige Niemann is a very unhinged person, but even she lost a lot of weight.
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I follow a couple of 'curvy' supposedly 'body positive' instagramers who are heavily promoting this movie and gush over how beautiful Ariana is. It sends out such mixed messages for them to openly praise how she's looking right now.
 
NowIsGood said:
I follow a couple of 'curvy' supposedly 'body positive' instagramers who are heavily promoting this movie and gush over how beautiful Ariana is. It sends out such mixed messages for them to openly praise how she's looking right now.
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People are scared to admit the truth because people will scream they are trolls and body shaming. I'm old enough to remember when Ally McBeal was on and Calista Flockart started disappearing before our eyes, then one by one the other actresses who were normal weight like Courtney Thorne Smith and Porta De Rossi started to get really thin too. Obviously there wasn't social media back then, but there were chat rooms, and people would be genuinely worried about her but be called mean and other things by fans who believed those speaking out were the same as the media, who were shaming her constantly. Portia De Rossi talked about it in her book and said the set was a clusterfuck. She already had an eating disorder, and being on the set made it worse and more or less a competition. Calista, however, doesn't think there was anything wrong with her according to an interview she did, claiming she didn't know what the fuss was about as she is the same weight now as she was back then, which is patently untrue as you could see her ribs and spine back then.

A few years ago, Natalia Dyer from Stranger Things was the same. She was at a fine weight during the first season then started getting smaller and smaller, which again had some fans worrying, but others were kissing her ass and saying there was nothing wrong with her. Ariana has a bigger fan base than the two of them combined, and I genuinely think people are so reluctant to be honest because they don't want her fans coming after them, so they will play along and stay on their good sides.
 
Like Ally McBeal is this not part of the marketing strategy?

These big movies always a parallel ‘gossip’ storyline eg the leads are in love, some minor scandal

The PR storyline with Evan is a disaster, and he is a effete creep

They don’t want a costar-conflict storyline either

So her obvious ED gets some traction (esp with the tween audience)

The red carpet dresses are all showing off her bony shoulders and back, not subtle at all.

The whole thing is cringe, the film is crap and the ‘stars’ are all deeply unlikeable.
 
Yel said:
I feel like we're back in the 90s with all these people below a size 0. I'm guessing all the skinny jabs have contributed to it massively.

In a way, it's worse than the 90s because now people are now too scared to say anything publicly.
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In the 90s there was the school playground, or work colleagues and friends, and also tv shows, but you could only go school or work for x amount of hours a day and watch only so many hours of TV a day to be influenced, whereas now, in the space of 10 mins scrolling on your phone you could see 100s of images of celebs who are seriously underweight, and that must trigger so many people.
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smartalec said:
Like Ally McBeal is this not part of the marketing strategy?

These big movies always a parallel ‘gossip’ storyline eg the leads are in love, some minor scandal

The PR storyline with Evan is a disaster, and he is a effete creep

They don’t want a costar-conflict storyline either

So her obvious ED gets some traction (esp with the tween audience)

The red carpet dresses are all showing off her bony shoulders and back, not subtle at all.

The whole thing is cringe, the film is crap and the ‘stars’ are all deeply unlikeable.
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I've just heard Ethan Slater in a clip - ick.
 
shellie said:
People are scared to admit the truth because people will scream they are trolls and body shaming. I'm old enough to remember when Ally McBeal was on and Calista Flockart started disappearing before our eyes, then one by one the other actresses who were normal weight like Courtney Thorne Smith and Porta De Rossi started to get really thin too. Obviously there wasn't social media back then, but there were chat rooms, and people would be genuinely worried about her but be called mean and other things by fans who believed those speaking out were the same as the media, who were shaming her constantly. Portia De Rossi talked about it in her book and said the set was a clusterfuck. She already had an eating disorder, and being on the set made it worse and more or less a competition. Calista, however, doesn't think there was anything wrong with her according to an interview she did, claiming she didn't know what the fuss was about as she is the same weight now as she was back then, which is patently untrue as you could see her ribs and spine back then.

A few years ago, Natalia Dyer from Stranger Things was the same. She was at a fine weight during the first season then started getting smaller and smaller, which again had some fans worrying, but others were kissing her ass and saying there was nothing wrong with her. Ariana has a bigger fan base than the two of them combined, and I genuinely think people are so reluctant to be honest because they don't want her fans coming after them, so they will play along and stay on their good sides.
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Honestly I’m so sick of her fans with the “you clearly didn’t listen to the lyrics of yes, and? Or her verse on Sympathy is a knife” like just because she’s adamant she’s “the healthiest she’s ever been” people are still allowed to call her out on her bullshit and the fact she’s spreading really harmful messages to a mostly very impressionable tween audience. Not being allowed to talk about something just because someone said “I don’t like it :(“ is absolutely ridiculous.
 
smartalec said:
Like Ally McBeal is this not part of the marketing strategy?
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To be honest, I don't think so. Wicked sells itself with the theater kid demographic, Cynthia adds some Broadway legitimacy, and this Ariana's first big feature film and she has a whole crazed standom to do free sales legwork. On its own merits, a movie like this should be huge.

I think the primary marketing strategy is having Ariana and Cynthia go around presenting as BFFs 4Lyfe, which is meant to draw attention away from the negative PR surrounding Ariana and Ethan. It's also why Ethan has largely been sidelined during the press tour.
 
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Yupyupyup said:
Honestly I’m so sick of her fans with the “you clearly didn’t listen to the lyrics of yes, and? Or her verse on Sympathy is a knife” like just because she’s adamant she’s “the healthiest she’s ever been” people are still allowed to call her out on her bullshit and the fact she’s spreading really harmful messages to a mostly very impressionable tween audience. Not being allowed to talk about something just because someone said “I don’t like it :(“ is absolutely ridiculous.
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It's insane.

I think Ariana is perfectly entitled to have the opinion that people shouldn't comment on her body. But the public are also perfectly entitled to have the view that this is BS as her whole image is a commodity she puts out there to sell makeup, music and now movies.

It's a knife when celebs project an unhealthy image and lie that all is good.
 
Lilykins said:
I saw this on X and all the comments were Ariana’s fans saying ‘leave her alone she says she’s the healthiest she’s ever been. She’s said herself to stop talking about her body’ - they’ve been gaslight and blinkered in the strongest way!
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And Instagram. Some of her fans are bleeping weird and creepy, or she really is a Witch and has some mind control powers. They really eat up the tit that comes out of her mouth.

Picture of me on the right and Ariana on the left. Let’s just say I didn’t achieve the same look by being ‘healthy.’

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