Alice Evans & Ioan Gruffudd #260 The War of the Rolexes

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welp said:
I doubt "nanny disobeyes basic orders and helps my abuser to alienate my kids" would have been a great reference, as kind as Ioan may be
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No I think IG would have given her a good reference anyway but especially if she was not Team Alice and more neutral. You can be sued for giving a bad reference so most people are very careful about what they say.
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These photos are nice but also a taunt to IG. The former maid and paid friend has a closer relationship with the kids than IG now.
 
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Bridgeofsighs said:
No I think IG would have given her a good reference anyway but especially if she was not Team Alice and more neutral. You can be sued for giving a bad reference so most people are very careful about what they say.
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These photos are nice but also a taunt to IG. The former maid and paid friend has a closer relationship with the kids than IG now.
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Would she even want a reference from either of them? Just googling the names will show how involved she was in her employers’ divorce. She even went to court as a witness (I’m still laughing with that) against Ioan in the fake DVRO. She wasn’t even present at the events! I would never hire such a person.
 
AnneinHever said:
Would she even want a reference from either of them? Just googling the names will show how involved she was in her employers’ divorce. She even went to court as a witness (I’m still laughing with that) against Ioan in the fake DVRO. She wasn’t even present at the events! I would never hire such a person.
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I doubt most people know that. Or they didn't think it was that important. Alice weaponises normally good people like Gloria and the kids. Gloria would be fine without Alice's toxic influence.
 
Is Alice comparing herself to Olympic athletes?
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My idea of Alice's workout.
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AnneinHever said:
Would she even want a reference from either of them? Just googling the names will show how involved she was in her employers’ divorce. She even went to court as a witness (I’m still laughing with that) against Ioan in the fake DVRO. She wasn’t even present at the events! I would never hire such a person.
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Two things are seen as career suicides for nannies of celebs
a) giving tell all interviews
b) testifiying against either party

Now eventually she did neither of it (even if Alice appears to hope for both) but she was close to do this in b) and in this case it turns out she was going to testify for the actual abuser (Ella, as her RO turned out to be a clear DARVO attempt that was laughed out of the court as kindly as possible), which is even worse - I guess her not actually testifying (although she was available) and Alice no longer being able to afford her has saved her career.

Loveu2 said:
Alice is a tit mother. Someone mentioned how pretty Elsie is. And Alice says you should see Ella.
Why does Alice feel like the girls left her behind?

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Ella is her proud creation. While both kids look 90 % like their father Ella seems to have almost entirely inherited Evans values, Elsie seems to have some character traits of her father. She made clear what she thinks about this over the years with how she has to constantly put down Elsie (not quite as obvious as she has done this to Ioan over the years btw) to the expense of praising Ella. I guess Elsie could gain some points if she would show the classic Evans behavior (judging by Iris, Ioans and Biancas testimony she has made her first steps). Also she is clearly banking on Ella bankrolling her over the model career she is hoping for.
 
IKickLikeKatya said:
Even that comment about the hair had the message that blonde is better.
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But yellow hair is best of all!!
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Loveu2 said:
Why does Alice feel like the girls left her behind?
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Cos AFE was 'stunning' in her heyday. Apparently. I would say better than average, that's it.
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welp said:
Two things are seen as career suicides for nannies of celebs
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Not sure these people count as celebs to 99.9% of Angelenos. There profile is a lot higher in the UK and even then IG is C list and AFE is Z list.
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welp said:
she is clearly banking on Ella bankrolling her over the model career she is hoping for.
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And giving her some fame with it. AFE wants to be the Z list Kris Jenner.
 
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This might be a bit of a ramble as I’m on the strong pain that I haven’t needed for a while so I will try to be coherent.

Alice has zero going on in her life, because she does bugger all. I feel very uncomfortable that her kids are her only content, apart from spewing hate and it’s all public to 85k followers.

I used to share content to my very small following of less than 200 when my daughter was younger but I know everyone and it’s private but is wasn’t very much. And normal, people like me have family all over the place that love to keep up to date with what’s going on. Even now when she is mid 20s I don’t share much as she isn’t a huge SM person, she has her own instagram but generally only posts from trips or festivals.

I find “celebs” who make their kids their entire persona a bit weird and troubling. Those poor girls are already in the most fucked up situation and she uses them to play to the minions for her own benefit. It’s sickening. Utterly, Utterly sickening.
 
SaltandPepperChicken said:
This might be a bit of a ramble as I’m on the strong pain that I haven’t needed for a while so I will try to be coherent.

Alice has zero going on in her life, because she does bugger all. I feel very uncomfortable that her kids are her only content, apart from spewing hate and it’s all public to 85k followers.

I used to share content to my very small following of less than 200 when my daughter was younger but I know everyone and it’s private but is wasn’t very much. And normal, people like me have family all over the place that love to keep up to date with what’s going on. Even now when she is mid 20s I don’t share much as she isn’t a huge SM person, she has her own instagram but generally only posts from trips or festivals.

I find “celebs” who make their kids their entire persona a bit weird and troubling. Those poor girls are already in the most fucked up situation and she uses them to play to the minions for her own benefit. It’s sickening. Utterly, Utterly sickening.
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It really is vile. She uses her kids as weapons, shields and narc supply. I hope one day they wake up to it and go no contact with her. Imo she doesn't deserve to have kids.

I hope you feel better soon, or at least that the pain meds put you into blissful lalaland. ❤️❤️
 
I think Mal is emboldened because she thinks something is going to come out by 'unsealing' the documents (srry i'm not technical and am indeed a fake lawyer) and I suspect it's something that she thinks paint Ioan in a bad light and might explain why (aside from the obvious fake RO) he doesn't have contact with the kids, probably to do with big E. Is anyone else suspicious of this? Same reason the comments are all - Gloria saw it ALL and blah blah.
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SaltandPepperChicken said:
This might be a bit of a ramble as I’m on the strong pain that I haven’t needed for a while so I will try to be coherent.

Alice has zero going on in her life, because she does bugger all. I feel very uncomfortable that her kids are her only content, apart from spewing hate and it’s all public to 85k followers.

I used to share content to my very small following of less than 200 when my daughter was younger but I know everyone and it’s private but is wasn’t very much. And normal, people like me have family all over the place that love to keep up to date with what’s going on. Even now when she is mid 20s I don’t share much as she isn’t a huge SM person, she has her own instagram but generally only posts from trips or festivals.

I find “celebs” who make their kids their entire persona a bit weird and troubling. Those poor girls are already in the most fucked up situation and she uses them to play to the minions for her own benefit. It’s sickening. Utterly, Utterly sickening.
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My kids don't allow me to post them anymore and my older daughter went through my instagram horrified once saying - you posted us WITH OUR SCHOOL UNIFORMS on... and made me delete almost all her pictures going back a few years. At least in the UK kids are being taught more and more (and listening) about online safety.

It's a bizarre behaviour to on the one hand say you are being harrassed by alleged p-word internet stalker (tattlers) people and then leave your instagram open to all and sundry AND continue to post your kids pictures. Make your accounts private and zip it mal.
 
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Well this is interesting and weird. The custody battle is over and AFE won. She wants it mostly unsealed and presumably Gloria spoke to Dupee and said how amazing Senora Alice was. She wants to unseal tit like that. It's possible AFE reined it in when Gloria was around or she knows Gloria won't spill the beans. Either way, it doesn't refute IG's testimony and court docs. I will always believe him over a maid and paid friend who might have been threatened by AFE or who doesn't want to lose contact with the kids.

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Bridgeofsighs said:
Well this is interesting and weird. The custody battle is over and AFE won. She wants it mostly unsealed and presumably Gloria spoke to Dupee and said how amazing Senora Alice was. She wants to unseal tit like that. It's possible AFE reined it in when Gloria was around or she knows Gloria won't spill the beans. Either way, it doesn't refute IG's testimony and court docs. I will always believe him over a maid and paid friend who might have been threatened by AFE or who doesn't want to lose contact with the kids.

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Yes but it's not winning in her mind until he's completely ruined. So I think that's what she thinks will happen with whatever she wants unsealed. it's unlikely to be a smoking gun given her past big waits for big reveals.... but I think in her mind it's not over until the whole world LOVES and adores her and hates him. Or at least takes her side. moo
 
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