Forceps can be used during c sections tooI thought she said forceps delivery on stories? After going into labour before planned c-section. Or did I make that up lol. Either way, she has a good reason!
Forceps can be used during c sections tooI thought she said forceps delivery on stories? After going into labour before planned c-section. Or did I make that up lol. Either way, she has a good reason!
She definitely has time when its something for her. Alfie comes across so much more natural when interacting with the children,she looks bored and as if its only for the cameraWhilst saying she has no time
Yes and just with everything they do even in this vlog they seem to just leave her go off and play on her own while they pick a tree. They expect her to name the elf and not change her mind , yet they treat novie really babyish I bet they will keep her small and tiny but make ottie grow up quickly. It's strange to watchI'll never forget Ottilie's first Christmas when she was only a few months old where Zoe sat her in the high chair and said she was helping her bake and that she loved baking and Christmas sooo much. They've wanted her to be 5 since the day she was born.
Every other Christmas is fine but every single year at Zoe's? no way would I want to do that esp like you say when you have your first child.Just as we've always said on this thread, shock that her non-negotiable for Christmas is all of Alfie's family staying at their house. Suggesting that Dotty sleeps in the girls' room on Christmas Eve when she's older is wild, surely Poppy and Sean will want Dotty to have the magic of Christmas in their home and not be wondering why Santa only goes to Zoe's?
The children are props for contentI'll never forget Ottilie's first Christmas when she was only a few months old where Zoe sat her in the high chair and said she was helping her bake and that she loved baking and Christmas sooo much. They've wanted her to be 5 since the day she was born.
I think it’s subconscious/subliminal. Zoe is that whole family’s meal ticket, even if they don’t say it they must know that. Alfie was never anything that big without her. Do you think Poppy and Sean could’ve seemingly gone their whole adult lives without working if they hadn’t piggybacked off her (undeserved imo) success? They all pander to her and enable her immaturity without even realising it probably.Why do they go along with her non-negotiables? Yeah she’s unreasonable but she must be used to getting her own way. They need to say no
There's also the unspoken threat of Zoe simply replacing the Deyes with the Suggs and inviting Tracy + partner and Joe and Dianne instead. There's no way that Nick and Amanda would give up their status of being the chosen grandparents that get to celebrate Christmas with Ottie and Novie.I think it’s subconscious/subliminal. Zoe is that whole family’s meal ticket, even if they don’t say it they must know that. Alfie was never anything that big without her. Do you think Poppy and Sean could’ve seemingly gone their whole adult lives without working if they hadn’t piggybacked off her (undeserved imo) success? They all pander to her and enable her immaturity without even realising it probably.
She alarmingly basic but she got very lucky to get as big as she did in the social media world at the right time, and plenty of people are millionaires indirectly because of her.
No way would Zoe ever replace the Deyes. We’ll see pigs fly before she chooses her own family over them.There's also the unspoken threat of Zoe simply replacing the Deyes with the Suggs and inviting Tracy + partner and Joe and Dianne instead. There's no way that Nick and Amanda would give up their status of being the chosen grandparents that get to celebrate Christmas with Ottie and Novie.
But that's not how Zoe wants her Christmas fantasy to play out. She wants them all to sit around in the matching PJs she bought and play games all evening and then wake up together on Christmas Day and watch the kids open their 500 presents while she is preparing the Waitrose ready meals next to Amanda who's doing the actual cooking.It’s not like they live far from each other either, they could easily sleep at their own houses and then drive over to Zoe’s late morning, none of them are big drinkers and even if they were they have enough money to afford a taxi or whatever. There’s no need for them to stay over it’s not like they are travelling from far it’s bizarre
probably when alfie was away so she could look after the kids.I wonder if her mum has ever stayed over at Zoe's house or is it just the Deyes that stay over?
It makes even less sense too because they all go to Amanda's for turkey pie on Christmas Eve. That was Alfie's non-negotiable. So the whole group gathers there, eats a meal, and then they drive together back to Zoe's to sleep? And Nick and Amanda are bored because Alfie/Zoe and Poppy/Sean all go to bed by 9. Alfie basically admitted they get to do everything because their house is the biggest. "Our house is just... so good for hosting". Crazy not a single 'non-negotiable' included Zoe's family. She used to at least go home to see her Dad and grandparents and now nothing. Joe will be with Dianne's family this year and Tracey may get a pity invite to Christmas because she lives at the end of the garden. I've never seen a family so rigid about rotating Christmas. That's the fair thing to do. But Zoe's been acting like she's married to the Deyes family since the very early days of them dating so why expect anything better.It’s not like they live far from each other either, they could easily sleep at their own houses and then drive over to Zoe’s late morning, none of them are big drinkers and even if they were they have enough money to afford a taxi or whatever. There’s no need for them to stay over it’s not like they are travelling from far it’s bizarre
I don't see her ever doing that. Plus Joe and Dianne seem to alternate between Australia and the UK for Christmas. Obviously there were a couple years where they couldn't because of Covid but they said years ago that that's how they plan to do it.There's also the unspoken threat of Zoe simply replacing the Deyes with the Suggs and inviting Tracy + partner and Joe and Dianne instead. There's no way that Nick and Amanda would give up their status of being the chosen grandpareer nts that get to celebrate Christmas with Ottie and Novie.