Zoe Sugg #67 Boring and beige, will never be a Deyes.

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kyrag2803 said:
Zoe saying she only did the book tours etc because she had to😳 I watched those vlogs recently of her doing the tour and always thought it was really random she asked Jim to interview her / lead the show? Now it makes sense bc she didn’t want to do it and she wouldn’t have to be responsible for it all if Jim spoke
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Her whole speech about she doesn't like doing anything she's not in control of or uncomfortable with, yeah we know that's why you just sit in your house and surround yourself with the same few people. As one of the top influencers she would have had the opportunity to go all over and even fly to some beautiful places with brands to promote the new products etc but like she said she says no to most things. Problem is thats not real life most people have to face things at work that they are uncomfortable with etc. She is lucky her job gives her that option to pick and choose what she wants to do!
 
I mean yah it's nice to have choice, especially for things you strongly object to or things that can make life a little easier (like I enjoy being able to pick my schedule so I work when I want and largely pick when I go to office versus work from home - exception being planned meetings). However, only doing what you want and saying no to anything a TINY bit outside of comfort leaves no room to grow. That's what you see from Zoe. She hasn't changed, she has stayed the same person frozen in time (not physically....) for over a decade. She eats the same foods, goes to the same places, has largely the same friends/contacts, etc. Nothing in her life challenges her to do anything more/be anything more because she has curated it to be that way. It's frankly sad. I wouldn't call that lucky, just depressing.
 
sburton said:
I mean yah it's nice to have choice, especially for things you strongly object to or things that can make life a little easier (like I enjoy being able to pick my schedule so I work when I want and largely pick when I go to office versus work from home - exception being planned meetings). However, only doing what you want and saying no to anything a TINY bit outside of comfort leaves no room to grow. That's what you see from Zoe. She hasn't changed, she has stayed the same person frozen in time (not physically....) for over a decade. She eats the same foods, goes to the same places, has largely the same friends/contacts, etc. Nothing in her life challenges her to do anything more/be anything more because she has curated it to be that way. It's frankly sad. I wouldn't call that lucky, just depressing.
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That is one of the reasons her anxiety hasn't improved because she doesn't face her fears. She just avoids doing stuff but that just makes your life very small and limited.
 
alfie uploaded another vlog, and novie is in the thumbnail.
they are becoming the very things they have hated. a family vlogger.

like others have said it was so reasonable for them to stop showing ottie after this break but no we are getting damn subtitles on what a toddler says.
doubtful they will ever stop showing them, seeing how the views etc have changed since they got kiddos.

edit: towards the end they are talking about tv opportunities and so on. and how zoe avoided most of them to not have "new" eyes on her.
she even hides from her own job opportunities. the privilege this girl has

edit2: alfie has interrupted zoe like twice within 3 min and once didnt even answer her question (ones I have caught).
 
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coconochanel said:
Her whole speech about she doesn't like doing anything she's not in control of or uncomfortable with, yeah we know that's why you just sit in your house and surround yourself with the same few people. As one of the top influencers she would have had the opportunity to go all over and even fly to some beautiful places with brands to promote the new products etc but like she said she says no to most things. Problem is thats not real life most people have to face things at work that they are uncomfortable with etc. She is lucky her job gives her that option to pick and choose what she wants to do!
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And now she has said no so often to so many brands, they don't ask anymore, and the world has moved on. And she is alone in her mansion with Alfie and two kids and nothing going on professionally to stimulate her mind or help her grow as a person through life.
 
milkyways said:
alfie uploaded another vlog, and novie is in the thumbnail.
they are becoming the very things they have hated. a family vlogger.
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I didn’t think they ever hated it. They also said after officially confirming they were a couple, that they’d never do „Zalfie“ videos/thumbnails and that’s basically all Alfie did for years, before the kids came. They just say what they think sounds reasonable, before doing the opposite.
They used to love hanging out with family vloggers and showed those kids a lot in their own vlogs. Never thought they’d have more respect for their own.
 
Lyn123 said:
Alfie's vlog ottie is in his parents house for 2 days and over night, so he can move furniture about. It's so weird they seem to not have her so much. They have so much time to do nothing with 2 small children
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Also clear Zoe cant look after their two kids on her own otherwise why is she not watching Ottie and Novie while Alfie does the jobs? I cant imagine shipping your child off to their grandparents every time you need to do some 'jobs' so pathetic!
 
coconochanel said:
Also clear Zoe cant look after their two kids on her own otherwise why is she not watching Ottie and Novie while Alfie does the jobs? I cant imagine shipping your child off to their grandparents every time you need to do some 'jobs' so pathetic!
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Yes and the child is like the easiest child ever doesn't care about being left without her parents and must just sleep all night no matter what
 
coconochanel said:
Her whole speech about she doesn't like doing anything she's not in control of or uncomfortable with, yeah we know that's why you just sit in your house and surround yourself with the same few people. As one of the top influencers she would have had the opportunity to go all over and even fly to some beautiful places with brands to promote the new products etc but like she said she says no to most things. Problem is thats not real life most people have to face things at work that they are uncomfortable with etc. She is lucky her job gives her that option to pick and choose what she wants to do!
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It’s not a great thing to model for two children either. It pretty much guarantees that they will end up with the same anxieties themselves. Can they sustain a lifestyle for at least three adults to never leave the house for the rest of their life?! There’s a whole world out there! Ottie needs the company of other children rather than mimicking the behaviour of adults.
 
Alfie is very smug, but he doesn’t seem very bright. I think there is fresh air between his ears! Proper Tim nice but dim! Giving his coffee away in Hello Fresh boxes!
Having watched the video, Zoe wants to keep her echo chamber. She will be fucked if anything bad happens in her life. She has no resilience and would crumble. She also appears very ungrateful for her privilege.
 
Just started watching Alfie's vlog and I'm already bored. But watching him in the garage reminded me... he gave her that 1991 Nissan Figaro that they've both driven exactly once and then it was never seen again. Anyone know what happened to that thing? (other than collecting dirt in the driveway)

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I often wonder what Ottie thinks/will think of the fact that noone around her goes to work. I mean whatever tv they let her watch, the parents surely go to work and even her future posh private school friends will have nannies and such because their parents work. Dianne is the only one around her that ever leaves to work albeit it’s not a typical job. And even then does O get annoyed etc that she isn’t constantly around like everyone else in her life. Her parents, both sets of grandparents, Joe, Poppy and Sean are just at home constantly and yet she still gets shipped around like there’s no tomorrow.

Makes me wonder how she wouldn’t end up ridiculously sheltered and anxious about ever having to do something by herself
 
Marie_10 said:
I'm a bit surprised that they took care of the plants outside, I thought they for sure had a gardener. Maybe they used to have one but not anymore 🤔
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Yes they have a gardener maybe he just mows the lawns.
TravellingPants said:
Just to play devil’s advocate, a lot of kids jump at the chance for a sleepover at their grandparents’ house. At least at their house she’s not being filmed and put out on the internet!
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No one is disputing that Im sure Ottie loves going to her Grandparents. The discussion is how Alfie & Zoe seem unable to do any chores while both kids are there even though they are both at home, don't work and have all the time in the world!
 
SUPyo said:
Just started watching Alfie's vlog and I'm already bored. But watching him in the garage reminded me... he gave her that 1991 Nissan Figaro that they've both driven exactly once and then it was never seen again. Anyone know what happened to that thing? (other than collecting dirt in the driveway)
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I don't know if they still have it. The MOT history says last test was February 2021 and before that was July 2017!
 
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