Zoe Sugg #52 Alfie took his mum to France, did Zoe get that engagement ring? no chance!

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Between this and the constant "oh I'm SO small I wear clothes from the kids' section of the store" she's setting that poor girl up for an eating disorder :(
I went to school with a girl whose mum was a failed dancer and she really tried to push her daughter into being a ballet dancer or a model. This girl wanted to dress alternative and her mum was always having digs at her. Zoe will be the same.

I find the nickname “Ottie” so annoying! I used to think Ottilie was a nice, unusual name but it sounds so basic now as Ottie, over and over. I think it’s becoming really popular too.
Yep I’ve seen a few people call their kid Ottie now. Don’t know if I’m noticing it cause of Zoe or if it was popular and I’ve never realised before
 
It’s interesting seeing Tanya’s content as a mum in comparison to Zoe. Obvs very early days but she already comes across so much more mumsy than Zoe ever has. Not that there’s one default setting for motherhood ofc.

But Zoe has always felt like a teenage babysitter in any pics/videos with her and her baby. It’s really weird. Especially because she seemed so eager to become a mum for so long. I was deffo expecting her to be one of those people who makes their baby their entire identity. But she seems so oddly detached. I’ve watched her speak more openly and lovingly about tat from the garden centre and a kids film from the 90s than towards her own daughter.
Do you think maybe it's because she looks more like the Deyes than her? She is very self-centered and prolly resents that she's not a mini me.
 
I mean we don't get so see that much but I have the feeling they never really encourage Ottie to talk properly !? It's like you mentioned.. always the same "hiya" or they ask her what noise a sheep makes.
Do they read to her at all? Or play with any interactive toys or games? I feel like they just set her up in the jail playroom and leave her to her own devices. Her only vocabulary will be "hiya" "ca-ute" and "schick" with those two for parents.
 
Do they read to her at all? Or play with any interactive toys or games? I feel like they just set her up in the jail playroom and leave her to her own devices. Her only vocabulary will be "hiya" "ca-ute" and "schick" with those two for parents.
Well according to Zoe Ottie is a ‘bookworm’ and obsessed with books… so I assume someone is reading to her (could be the nanny or Zoe’s mum).
 
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