Zoe Sugg #48 No love from Alf on Mother’s day, never any hope of becoming a Deyes

Do they have a nanny?

  • yes of course slobella wont lift a finger

    Votes: 372 71.7%
  • No big Mand aka Alf's mum helps out

    Votes: 147 28.3%

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    519
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Watching Zoe’s vlog today I noticed two things in particular that told me that she has no mothering instincts even though she pretends to and has had a child for half a year already. Most notable for me was the part where she was showing off Pay’s new clothes, being the only caretaker in the room and when she’s around a dog that she treats as a toy, and Zoe didn’t glance over at her once. I also wondered why when this is how she watches her kid she thought it was a great idea to stick pins in a board that could easily fall out, but maybe that’s a little too cautious.
When Ottie went to grab Nala Zoe said 'no we have to be gentle with Nala' which made me think has Nala snapped at Ottie after all the tugging she was previously doing to her.
 
When Ottie went to grab Nala Zoe said 'no we have to be gentle with Nala' which made me think has Nala snapped at Ottie after all the tugging she was previously doing to her.


This could be a good point. I took it as she had read/received feedback re comments on here. The vlog seemed very focused on how she was with Ottie etc. This seemed to be one of her better vlogs since she was pregnant
 
When Ottie went to grab Nala Zoe said 'no we have to be gentle with Nala' which made me think has Nala snapped at Ottie after all the tugging she was previously doing to her.
Possibly but we've always taught my niece and nephew to be gentle with my dog even though he's never snapped at any child. I'd like to think that's why she said it anyway, it would worry me if Nala was snapping at her because it will possibly happen again.
 
Good grief. Does she think dulce de leche is Portuguese or Italian? WTF was that pronunciation? These people really don't have any curiosity. If I don't know how to pronounce something, I look it up, especially if I were filming myself. I'm so sick of influencers making dumb seem cool.
And the fact that she was dying of laughter when Mark mispronounced Creme Fraiche.....I mean she was DYING.

I did appreciate the fact that she made sure to show nothing of bathtime (all you saw was the back of the tub).....the Saccones would have shoved the cameras in their faces and would not be discreet.
 
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I totally understand and respect that they don't show or share too many details about parenthood, I'm sure they'd be inundated with people telling them they're doing things wrong. HOWEVER #mumlife is the only thing she has going on, so during her vlogs she literally says absolutely nothing of interest! She did a fcking timelapse of her brushing her teeth ffs! Mate she is just so irritating and empty it's unreal.

It's a stark contrast to Joe's vlogs lately. I actually really enjoy them, the way they're shot, his sense of humour (which Zoe doesn't have), and the warmth of his relationship with Diane and her family. It's actually so sweet I find myself relaxing to them. The way he films and the music he uses, like, he knows what he's doing! He puts effort into the vlogs and yes he just uploaded one from Australia despite they got home weeks ago, yet you can see why, it's actually worth it!

In Zoe's vlog yesterday her and Alfie spent half an hour laughing at how she'd tried to film her tying up her shoes and she admitted she didn't think about the camera angle she just plonked the camera down - like honestly she is so lazy. This is her job, this is how she lives in a mansion and can buy anything she dreams of, yet she puts absolutely fuck all effort into it!

Rant over for now 🥲
 
I totally understand and respect that they don't show or share too many details about parenthood, I'm sure they'd be inundated with people telling them they're doing things wrong. HOWEVER #mumlife is the only thing she has going on, so during her vlogs she literally says absolutely nothing of interest! She did a fcking timelapse of her brushing her teeth ffs! Mate she is just so irritating and empty it's unreal.

It's a stark contrast to Joe's vlogs lately. I actually really enjoy them, the way they're shot, his sense of humour (which Zoe doesn't have), and the warmth of his relationship with Diane and her family. It's actually so sweet I find myself relaxing to them. The way he films and the music he uses, like, he knows what he's doing! He puts effort into the vlogs and yes he just uploaded one from Australia despite they got home weeks ago, yet you can see why, it's actually worth it!

In Zoe's vlog yesterday her and Alfie spent half an hour laughing at how she'd tried to film her tying up her shoes and she admitted she didn't think about the camera angle she just plonked the camera down - like honestly she is so lazy. This is her job, this is how she lives in a mansion and can buy anything she dreams of, yet she puts absolutely fuck all effort into it!

Rant over for now 🥲
i agree with you about joe's vlog, visually they look amazing especially the drone and underwater shots.
 
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"Also appreciate some of you alerting me to the fact that this is poisonous but it's not 😂 "

Idk why, but her use of the cry laughing emoji really bothered me in this context......
 
Remember when Zoe and Alfie were friends with the Saccone Joly's? Well, Jonathan is currently live on tik tok and he's been asked a lot about Zoe and Alfie and didn't really answer at first but he's said that he has no problem with Zoe and left it there. I'm assuming from that that he has a problem with Alfie. It seems like he doesn't like what Alfie has said in the past about family vloggers and now they have a baby and she is in the vlogs. I don't know about the rest of you but to me there is a difference between the two.
 
Remember when Zoe and Alfie were friends with the Saccone Joly's? Well, Jonathan is currently live on tik tok and he's been asked a lot about Zoe and Alfie and didn't really answer at first but he's said that he has no problem with Zoe and left it there. I'm assuming from that that he has a problem with Alfie. It seems like he doesn't like what Alfie has said in the past about family vloggers and now they have a baby and she is in the vlogs. I don't know about the rest of you but to me there is a difference between the two.

I agree with you.

There is a huge difference between how zalfie have been with sharing ottie and how some families are like the saccone jolys who truly exploit their kids. So far zalfie have never shared ottie in a vulnerable state or said anything about her which could be embarrassing when she grows up. Jonathan Joly is truly a bad person for what he’s done to his kids by sharing footage of them not dresses fully, or in the bath and Using Edies story to make money.

Can someone please explain to me why Zoe always thinks Alfie is some kind of big, risk-taking adventurer? Just because he (apparently) likes rollercoasters !?
Because the closest thing Zoe does to ‘adventurous’ is a trip to the local Sainsburys instead of M&S.
 
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Remember when Zoe and Alfie were friends with the Saccone Joly's? Well, Jonathan is currently live on tik tok and he's been asked a lot about Zoe and Alfie and didn't really answer at first but he's said that he has no problem with Zoe and left it there. I'm assuming from that that he has a problem with Alfie. It seems like he doesn't like what Alfie has said in the past about family vloggers and now they have a baby and she is in the vlogs. I don't know about the rest of you but to me there is a difference between the two.

Alfie's probably not over him sharing that vanilla zalfie kiss in a vlog lmao
 
Remember when Zoe and Alfie were friends with the Saccone Joly's? Well, Jonathan is currently live on tik tok and he's been asked a lot about Zoe and Alfie and didn't really answer at first but he's said that he has no problem with Zoe and left it there. I'm assuming from that that he has a problem with Alfie. It seems like he doesn't like what Alfie has said in the past about family vloggers and now they have a baby and she is in the vlogs. I don't know about the rest of you but to me there is a difference between the two.
This is one of the only times you'll hear me say anything nice about Alfie but I do admire that he was able to recognize the SJs for what they were and cut off the relationship. The way they share their children is beyond exploitative and the way they parent them is abusive. It's well-documented and people like Zoe and Alfie are definitely aware. It always struck me as weird that Zoe was the only person they could call to watch the children when Anna was having a miscarriage. It just screamed opportunistic to me that they would involve 'Zoella' in their family tragedy. Everything that man does is for clicks. Alfie and Zoe share Ottie frequently and even with the ads I still think there's a HUGE difference in the way the SJ's feature their kids vs. Zalfie.

ETA - I just read in the SJ thread that there was an instance where Jonathan built a big water park for the kids in the back garden and he kept trying to bait Alfie into responding by building something himself. Asking the kids to say "hey Alfie can you beat that?", etc. on camera. He was using his kids to try and bait Alfie into some waste-of-time challenge and Alfie did not respond at all.
 
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I actually like the way they feature Ottie in the vlogs she isn't the main focus and like you said they don't show her undressed etc just playing or in the pram when they are out. Speaking of undressed his thug mate Asa's gf has pics on her IG of their little boys in the bath, obv you cant see anything but still makes me uncomfortable that they post pics of innocent kids for ANYONE to see.
 
Am I the only one who has no idea who the sacconejolys are.
you lucky soul, dont be curious its a sh*t show to say the least
I actually like the way they feature Ottie in the vlogs she isn't the main focus and like you said they don't show her undressed etc just playing or in the pram when they are out. Speaking of undressed his thug mate Asa's gf has pics on her IG of their little boys in the bath, obv you cant see anything but still makes me uncomfortable that they post pics of innocent kids for ANYONE to see.
the bare minimum in this influencer word for not oversharing their kids or showing them in the bath.
but the fact that she doesnt wash the damn clothes....... like everyone else said.

its the most logical task to do especially for a baby.
idk where these clothes are shipped from and how theyre handled in logistic centres - but i used to work in retail. the clothes in stores are all over the floor especially since ppl dont hang it back.
and then she wears it herself or puts it on her baby... I.
 
I actually like the way they feature Ottie in the vlogs she isn't the main focus and like you said they don't show her undressed etc just playing or in the pram when they are out. Speaking of undressed his thug mate Asa's gf has pics on her IG of their little boys in the bath, obv you cant see anything but still makes me uncomfortable that they post pics of innocent kids for ANYONE to see.
Exactly, he can't really compare the two. They have filmed their kids in the bath, when they had to go hospital, filmed his wife going through a miscarriage (literally set a camera up in the hospital room and did a time lapse), kids in bikini's etc. He can't really compare that to Ottie in her pram or playing with her toys. He just doesn't like that he's being called out for a lot of stuff now and it's coming back to bite him.
 
Doesn't wash her child's clothes before wearing them, has her back to her newly mobile daughter, pays someone to get her daughter into a sleeping routine. God she's a seriously lazy cow and even I'm surprised what a shitty mother she's turning into. No doubt she's got someone lined up to teach Pay to walk, talk and eat solids as she's got Harry Potter to catch up on.

Who would aspire to be Zoe now?
Yet fans on her YouTube video are saying how lovely it is to see her thrive as a mum!! Bar is low.
 
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