Zoe Sugg #16 Borella the self isolating queen! She's been doing it for the last 3 years

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I really do worry for her if he doesn't soon and Joe does. I think seeing her eternally single fuckboy brother getting engaged or expecting a baby could cause her to suffer a catastrophic impact to her mental health.

I just don't think it will ever happen. Alfie is definitely one of those boys who will leave her and propose to his new girlfriend in the first six months

Ghosttalk4 said:
I really hope he does it tonight. For her sake.
It could be weirdly romantic and just her style, lockdown, staying at home, pizza...
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If you were her, how devastating is it that everyone on your birthday wants to see you get engaged because they feel sorry for you
 
Chilli pepper 19 said:
I really do worry for her if he doesn't soon and Joe does. I think seeing her eternally single fuckboy brother getting engaged or expecting a baby could cause her to suffer a catastrophic impact to her mental health.

I just don't think it will ever happen. Alfie is definitely one of those boys who will leave her and propose to his new girlfriend in the first six months


If you were her, how devastating is it that everyone on your birthday wants to see you get engaged because they feel sorry for you
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Yeah you're right. Theres no positive spin on it at all is there 😔
 
Fawkeofff said:
Is that not what happens the longer relationships go on sometimes? My parents have been together for about 30 years and I very rarely see them hug etc, I might be wrong though so you can correct me if I am! :)
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I’ve been with my partner 6 years and we’re the complete opposite to Zoe and Alfie! I think it depends how much time and effort you put into each other
 
Even if he did get engaged to her I really think (on alfie’s part) he would feel forced to - like he ‘has’ to or making it all ‘for the gram’ and could see him becoming resentful and more stand-offish toward her. It’s sad - sad that she lets him use her like a doormat, sad that he has so obviously checked out of their relationship, sad that she’s just stalled in life. I do wonder if she reads comments like these and whether they resonate with her deep down. I think she has, and I think they do, but I bet she tries to brush it off to herself as ‘those tattle trolls’ and of not wanting to ‘give in’.

Embarrassing confession time - when I was thirteen and Zoe was in her prime I genuinely had a crush on her. thought she was gorgeous and Alfie was so lucky to have her (never rated Alfie all that much though tbh I just thought he was an odious little toad - still is) and watching her deteriorate over the years to where she is saddens me. Don‘t get me wrong, she’s no saint and doesn’t help herself, but she could be so much better in herself — and do much bloody better than Alfie!
 
gee_beth said:
I’ve been with my partner 6 years and we’re the complete opposite to Zoe and Alfie! I think it depends how much time and effort you put into each other
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Thank you for responding! I think if they do want to be together they need to talk PRIVATELY about their relationship and goals properly and not put it online. I do feel sorry for her as she must feel comfortable enough with the idea Alfie will propose one day and she's stuck, I hope he does though!
 
I have to hand it to Alfie he has actually made an effort for her birthday. No sign of her family taking part in pizza night but she doesn’t normally include them in anything anyway unless it’s getting a freebie from Warner Bros.

Ghosttalk4 said:
There are so many people watching her live because they're expecting her to get engaged
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wouldn’t most people not want to get engaged on their birthday? It’s like Christmas, they couldn’t think what to get you so panicked and bought a ring. 😂
 
bubbletea123 said:
That breakfast looks delicious and much of the bread, etc, could be frozen so no waste. I am glad she is having a nice birthday. My birthday is tomorrow and then my spouse's a few days later and I am feeling quite down about it, as I haven't managed to get him anything apart from a card. Ha.
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Happy birthday for tomorrow! Try not to feel too down about it, just think of it as having two birthdays! You can still celebrating any plans that are ruined after these crazy times. ❤️❤️❤️
 
Not even responding to her mum, Joe and Diannes' birthday wishes is so rude! It's that sort of behaviour that stops me from feeling too sorry for her. There's something cold about that, even callous, especially considering how brown-nosed she is with Alfie's family.

I still feel for her a bit though, not getting the engagement she longs for. But I think she should have the sense and self-respect to take charge of her own life and not just coast along in the hope that she will get what she wants eventually. Life is passing her by, and it has been for years.

I think Alfie has led her on while deliberately pushing the issue into the future every time it's been brought up. I imagine the very topic is awkward to bring up now. If or when it does happen, I get the impression it will be because Alfie is under the cosh. And that would definitely take the sparkle off for me. He won't be proposing out of his love and desire to spend the rest of his life with her, the love of his life (because he should know these things already!) - it'll be out of pressure and, possibly, to get everyone to stop nagging him about it. Sad if that's the case. How could she really be happy with that? Why would you want to marry someone if you have to strong-arm them into proposing?
 
clueless said:
Not even responding to her mum, Joe and Diannes' birthday wishes is so rude! It's that sort of behaviour that stops me from feeling too sorry for her. There's something cold about that, even callous, especially considering how brown-nosed she is with Alfie's family.

I still feel for her a bit though, not getting the engagement she longs for. But I think she should have the sense and self-respect to take charge of her own life and not just coast along in the hope that she will get what she wants eventually. Life is passing her by, and it has been for years.

I think Alfie has led her on while deliberately pushing the issue into the future every time it's been brought up. I imagine the very topic is awkward to bring up now. If or when it does happen, I get the impression it will be because Alfie is under the cosh. And that would definitely take the sparkle off for me. He won't be proposing out of his love and desire to spend the rest of his life with her, the love of his life (because he should know these things already!) - it'll be out of pressure and, possibly, to get everyone to stop nagging him about it. Sad if that's the case. How could she really be happy with that? Why would you want to marry someone if you have to strong-arm them into proposing?
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Joe wrote a nice birthday message on his IG. All she cares about is the Deyes.
 
Chilli pepper 19 said:
And what a surprise, they're making pizza 🤦‍♀️ and yet again with Alfie's family.

Is it me or does it seem a bit weird that she's not mentioned any of her family and just liked Joe's post and ignored Dianne's. I can imagine that if she's been bitchy to dianne she'd call it out. Although Dianne strangely seems to think she's lucky to have Joe and seems besotted with Joe she also seems a bit feisty and wouldn't take any crap.

I wonder if she's massively jealous of the fact joe is obviously going to have the marriage and baby first. I actually feel sorry for her as even though they're in lock down, there's so much more he could have done
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People take comfort in what they like. We are making pizza for my bday tomo, trying to do them like how our fav pizza restaurant does. Lol.
Dr Marten said:
Same bleeping birthday as she always has.
Same decorations, food, Deyes.
Those pizzas looked so sad too. Zoes had cheese and beans, Alfie the same but added tuna.

Its the kinda style of party you would throw for kids year after year.
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BEANS on her pizza?
 
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