Welshrunner, kelloggsontherun #13 Valencia, I think we have a problem!

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I think maybe the tide is turning. Even people clueless about runnjng, never having run in their lives can see that she lives in cloud cuckoo land when it comes to pacing and runnjng in general .
I think rather than posting all over social media last week about her 5k , she might have been better at relflecting that a week before a marathon she ran so fast DOWNHILL that she was sick. And that she aimed to go and run a marathon at about 50 seconds per mile slower than her downhill best pace . It was never going to add up . Somebody get her a maths tutor!
 
Everyone knows she f'd up, even if they're not brave enough to say on her insta or Strava.

When I was training for my first marathon literally everyone told me not to go out too fast, even random people who weren't runners, they'd tell me they know someone who had run a marathon and give me that advice. Save the effort for the second half. It's the first rule of running a bloody marathon, it's not controversial!
 
Kelly has never been above an average runner let alone elite. Matt is a considerably better runner but would not be classed as amazing above club level. I know plenty of runners who do a bit of coaching as a sideline it’s not unsurprising that runners with a lot of experience and a coach qualification fall down that rabbit hole. The difference is they don’t behave like these pair do as the encyclopaedia of all things running with little to no results on the big stage. Stick to club running and stay humble.
 
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Ffs that comment. Get a bleeping grip and stop blowing smoke up her arse. “Blind praise isn’t exactly helping either.” 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
 
She has known throughout this ‘block’ (🙄) that her training has been crap. She’s laid out several vague excuses reasons along the ‘journey’ which she knew she could elaborate on when it all blew up. I’m torn between a sob story about poor mental health (absolutely no shade on MH problems, more that I’m not convinced with her), a T1 ‘episode’ or some illness she so bravely tried to push through. The simple truth, for them both, is that they need to leave their egos at the door and train and run within their ability, cut the junk miles and run a smart race. Oh, and work harder on having a life that does not depend on grifting, likes and kudos, and puts the kids in the picture (not ig, but the picture of their lives).
 
I don't think his intentions with her plans are malicious, just dumb. He's a gifted runner who doesn't understand that not everyone runs like him, which is what makes him a terrible coach. We all knew she couldn't go out at 8:30 and maintain it; Matt sending her off like that is a big red flag to all of his clients. I don't think she'll ever improve at this point, unless she gets a new coach with sensible plans.
 
All in all, I think that her time is pretty successful for her training. THAT’s the time you should be aiming for and anticipate with this sort of training - ignoring the volume of the junk miles, her quality sessions (aka long runs, tempo runs and intervals) could perfectly predict this time.
You can’t just look at the strava graph and believe that you’ve done a decent job. If I start recording as running all my walks, my strava will probably show that I’m doing 50mile weeks, but it’s 100% irrelevant to what I’m aiming for.
 
Without sounding mean she also needs to appreciate her body maybe isn't capable of a BQ time. There is more to life than running, enjoy your kids, do something non running related, take time for yourself instead of running miles for hours on end. It’s all so intense mainly fuelled by him. Maybe this trip is a wake up call to stop putting running at the forefront of their lives.
 
Dazruns knows his tit! Are the comments still there?! Truth is she won’t improve repeating the same tit on a rinse , repeat cycle. Is this her fifth/ sixth marathon now within this BQ cycle?! Aside from Amsterdam which I still think would have been shitter if tits hadn’t been there, they’ve all gone the same way. Belt it out like a bunny from a box, walk the end like a sloth. There was Berlin, London , Newport and god knows where else. She hasn’t got the endurance and all her training runs with elapsed times do t serve her any purpose come race day when you can’t stop the clock.
I’ve done two marathons, and at the risk of sounding like like a broken record. I did the first in 4.05 but I guess you could say I ‘bonked the last 10k’ as I was on for a sub 4 but it’s true when they say the marathon starts at mile 20. So I went away and reflected. I decided to book in again with the knowledge in mind that I’d struggled beyond mile 20. I slowed my long runs down, spent more time in my feet , wasn’t bothered about how my runs looked on strava, made sure I did some runs with marathon pace , like not 10 minute Marathon pace efforts but good solid runs. I enjoyed my runs, I didn’t over complicate them with ridiculous 20 second efforts or pepper them with ‘3 miles strong’ or whatever bullshit she comes out with and I walked away with 3.50 a year later.
That’s not a paragraph to show I’m faster than Kelly. I have a similar background I bet. No interest in running until about six years ago, ex smoker (well until 15 years ago!) three children etc. I think the difference is, I enjoy it, I do like doing well but it’s not incentive to run and probably do better because I put no pressure on myself .
Where you’re a 38 minute 5k runner or an 18 minute 5k runner, if you enjoy it, your kids think you’re amazing , then you’re a winner in my non elite coaching eyes!
 
My half time is around 5 mins quicker than hers. My marathon time is around 30 mins quicker than her PB. Her training is nonsensical. I'm annoyed that I get so annoyed by her buti think it's the fact that she fleeces gullible idiots into her coaching that irritates me the most. I hope this is the reality check she needs but I doubt it 🤦🏻‍♀️
 
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🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 this is gold

Happy to recieve all the praise and arse licking when it’s gone well though eh kels!
And unless she’s reading here- dazruns wasn’t rude about her run and nor were any comments so who is she aiming that at?! 🤣🤣

Love that she’s bitten . Kel you ran tit. Build a bridge with your blocks 🧱 and get over it 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Best end to the day that story 🤣
 
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