Triona McCarthy

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Rogue-rats said:
Exactly. I'd say she's raging. I'm certain she had her eye on the big house from the start. She wasn't long in the mews when she started referring to it as "My house". And used to refer to the Dad as living "next door" but used the garden and the steps of the big house for photoshoots galore. I wondered how Wills brothers felt about it, this wan swooping in and practically laying claim to it.

There's not a chance they would have the money to buy the big house, I don't think they've got that much money at all, pre pandemic they never went on holidays together, Triona would go on her junkets and the odd time Will would follow her over for a freebie weekend. The kids Never got to go on any holidays bar down to the Granny in Cork. The closest the kids got to a day out for themselves was a freebie trip to Funtasia a few years back. Gifted of course. It would be alien to her to purchase air fares for her family so the kids get to see her swan off all over the place but get no holidays themselves. My kids are around the same age and the first thing they want to do when this pandemic is over is go on holidays as we've had to cancel 2 already. (well it was the same one rescheduled, I don't think anybody thought this time last year we'd be in the same scenario)
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My God. What is wrong with holidays in West Cork with Granny? I personally think that’s the best holiday young kids can get. Not everyone can afford sun holidays abroad and most of them aren’t for the kids they are got the parents. Your view on their relationship seems very bitter.
 
Princesssun said:
My God. What is wrong with holidays in West Cork with Granny? I personally think that’s the best holiday young kids can get. Not everyone can afford sun holidays abroad and most of them aren’t for the kids they are got the parents. Your view on their relationship seems very bitter.
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There's nothing wrong with holidays in West Cork with Granny. My point was actually that they don't have that much money so that's why they don't bring the kids on trips away at all. She used to jet off every other month and a few times she posted up where Will - on his own - followed her over. That LA junket being one of them. Another time they were swanning around France but the kids don't get to go either. It's clear that they love holidays and time away, but it doesn't stretch to the kids. I get it, it's expensive to bring kids on holidays, but it's about making memories. My kids love going to their grandparents house and seeing their country cousins - but they know it's not a family holiday away as such.

I'm not bitter about their relationship at all. I'm actually very pleased they found each other. But I think Will turns a blind eye to a lot of Trionas carry on, the excessive drinking, resulting in the public broadcasting of hangovers, and the time where she bad mouthed his mother on instagram while drunk, and the fact that even the kids know when she's had too much to drink. He seems besotted by her, but powerless to do anything about it.
 
In a recent article sophie writes about her alcoholism. Her new book is about her struggles with alcohol while having small children. I think the book is called corpse. So I think she is a recovered alcoholic.
 
He only joined her on some work trips for few days towards the end. I can understand why she wouldn’t want to go abroad with the children. I do think she adores them and it’s lovely to see them spending time in Cork during the holidays. She really does show off all the places around. Ya she’s a bit daft and childish but I think there’s no harm in her
 
Rogue-rats said:
There's nothing wrong with holidays in West Cork with Granny. My point was actually that they don't have that much money so that's why they don't bring the kids on trips away at all. She used to jet off every other month and a few times she posted up where Will - on his own - followed her over. That LA junket being one of them. Another time they were swanning around France but the kids don't get to go either. It's clear that they love holidays and time away, but it doesn't stretch to the kids. I get it, it's expensive to bring kids on holidays, but it's about making memories. My kids love going to their grandparents house and seeing their country cousins - but they know it's not a family holiday away as such.

I'm not bitter about their relationship at all. I'm actually very pleased they found each other. But I think Will turns a blind eye to a lot of Trionas carry on, the excessive drinking, resulting in the public broadcasting of hangovers, and the time where she bad mouthed his mother on instagram while drunk, and the fact that even the kids know when she's had too much to drink. He seems besotted by her, but powerless to do anything about it.
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I think you are being a bit harsh talking about their kids not going away on holidays. They seem to really love and enjoy being in Cork. How is that not a holiday? Have most people failed as parents because they haven't brought their kids off to a flash holiday in the sun!? A silly and unfair comment to pass in my opinion. The majority of my family and friends don't like the stress or hassle of packing up their young kids and bringing them off to another country. Some parents cannot afford it but it doesn't make them any less of a parent.
 
Bigred21 said:
I think you are being a bit harsh talking about their kids not going away on holidays. They seem to really love and enjoy being in Cork. How is that not a holiday? Have most people failed as parents because they haven't brought their kids off to a flash holiday in the sun!? A silly and unfair comment to pass in my opinion. The majority of my family and friends don't like the stress or hassle of packing up their young kids and bringing them off to another country. Some parents cannot afford it but it doesn't make them any less of a parent.
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My initial point was that they I don't think they have a lot of money, Apart from some of her designer clothes, there's no evidence of having a particularly well off lifestyle, yes Triona jets off to fashion shows and junkets, and the odd time Will would join her but the kids never did. Nobody fails as a parent for not taking their kids abroad, but when You and your other half DO have that opportunity, perhaps it might be nice to include your kids once in a while? Anybody I know that has to travel for work uses it as a chance to incorporate a family holiday, not just a break for Mum & Dad. Maybe I'm the odd one, I've only taken one long weekend away from my kids since they were born, and I couldn't wait to get back - and while they're kids I never would again. Plenty of time when they're old and grown up that they won't want to go on hols with their us.
 
Princesssun said:
My God. What is wrong with holidays in West Cork with Granny? I personally think that’s the best holiday young kids can get. Not everyone can afford sun holidays abroad and most of them aren’t for the kids they are got the parents. Your view on their relationship seems very bitter.
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I think young children don’t even enjoy sun holidays, it’s more about the parents getting the holiday
 
Julesffs said:
I’d say Sophie white definitely still drinks, she gave up for 5 yrs to 2016, for ‘medical’ reasons but then apparently jumped back into the wine
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She "felt no different" yet had more time on her hands not having to deal with hangovers!!I read the Indo article a few weeks ago and my take was she begrudgingly gave it up for the kids. If she wasnt a Mother she would still be drinking the tit out of herself.
 
Rogue-rats said:
My initial point was that they I don't think they have a lot of money, Apart from some of her designer clothes, there's no evidence of having a particularly well off lifestyle, yes Triona jets off to fashion shows and junkets, and the odd time Will would join her but the kids never did. Nobody fails as a parent for not taking their kids abroad, but when You and your other half DO have that opportunity, perhaps it might be nice to include your kids once in a while? Anybody I know that has to travel for work uses it as a chance to incorporate a family holiday, not just a break for Mum & Dad. Maybe I'm the odd one, I've only taken one long weekend away from my kids since they were born, and I couldn't wait to get back - and while they're kids I never would again. Plenty of time when they're old and grown up that they won't want to go on hols with their us.
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I think you are the odd one out here. If you go away for work then it is usually an adult environment and not at all appropriate to bring your kids along. I don’t think never leaving your kids should be a badge of honour. Each to their own. If that suits you then that’s fine but remember there was the 2 of you before you had them. If you don’t nurture that you won’t have a relationship when they’re grown up.
 
Princesssun said:
I think you are the odd one out here. If you go away for work then it is usually an adult environment and not at all appropriate to bring your kids along. I don’t think never leaving your kids should be a badge of honour. Each to their own. If that suits you then that’s fine but remember there was the 2 of you before you had them. If you don’t nurture that you won’t have a relationship when they’re grown up.
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Never leaving my kids isn't a "badge of honour" as you put it, I'm not fanatical. But time off to me doesn't mean time away. And thanks for the advice but my relationship doesn't need nurturing. We have plenty of time together, it just doesn't involve heading off on breaks without my kids. I will stress my point once again (because you seem to ignore my view while concentrating on my relationship and parenting) There is nothing wrong with home grown holidays - if that is what they are. Visiting granny might not be a "holiday" for all. It's an opportunity to hand off your kids to your mother and swan around in your faux celebrity status that she feels she has in Schull. Also, incorporating a family holiday into a work trip is not dragging your kids along to business meetings - it's about minimising costs through air fares/hotel rates. Having your other half join you but NEVER your kids doesn't scream "relationship time", more like it costs too much or I can't blag it for free.
 
I’m so, so glad I took my kids away on holidays outside of Ireland at least once a year -since they were 6 months old. We didn’t get to go last year or this year by the looks of things , so we holidayed in Ireland. And will this year too

Which to me is graaaand but not my idea of a real holiday. It’s crap unpredictable weather and way over priced food/hotels etc also the quality for the price of the majority of Airbnb’s is truly shocking. I’d rather stay in my own nice house than pay 1200€ to sit in an 80’s rotten style house for a week or two

A small minority of my friends wouldn’t want the hassle or the effort of bringing small kids on holidays and Are happy to sit in an Airbnb in Wexford etc for a week. So they’re non plussed with the pandemic halting abroad plans🙃

I wouldn’t consider going to my mothers a holiday
but that’s my situation

West cork is fabulous and if the sun is shining Ireland is beautiful . But nothing guaranteed. We have always went for mini breaks with the kids at Halloween/midterms in Ireland too.

i have travelled all my life and will encourage my children to do so too. I adore a change of scene and it literally feeds my soul , my husband too. We even were lucky go travelling together pre kids

My kids Have LOVED every holiday we have been on , we always put their needs first and more than happily have a glass of rosé on the balcony looking at the beach while they nap etc and I always thought I can be up doing a night feed or changing nappies in grey Ireland or a sunny clime. When they were tiny we even booked flights to time with their naps. I’m not joking 😃


We would also go on a parents only weekend break in Ireland or Europe At least twice a year and it’s amazing too😂 and I feel very solid in my parenting thanks

triona wouldn’t spend her own money on breaks because she, pre pandemic gets to go to NYC-London -LA etc with Will even along for free.

I miss holidays 🥲 long rant over apologies
 
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I do miss hols abroad too but personally feel like hauling small kids to Spain is a form of torture.. Airport's, plane rides,29 plus degrees, temper tantrtums nah uh.. A prison in the sun😂... Defo plan on doing it when they are a little older and can enjoy it more... I defo believe travelling is essential for a broad worldview too and is exhilarating.. But the 80s style Irish hols will do us for now... Centreparcs actually last Yr was incredible if u have the money would defo recomend... Have no personal views on trionas hols just worry her drinking has defo gone a little out of control... Those hangovers are just crazy for a woman of her age
 
Centreparcs is unreal. Can’t wait to go back when restrictions are lifted. Not sure id go when you’re limited with pool

never felt I was in a prison with my kids whilst on holidays in Ireland or abroad ☺
Or had much hassle at airports etc with my kids.
I have two so maybe with 3 or 4 it might be a lot for two parents I don’t know!

each to their own with regards to holidays obviously
I was writing about what I’d prefer

Apologies for detailing the thread
Back to Triona!
 
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Diamondoris said:
Interesting about Sophie; that question has been bugging me since reading the article..." is she still drinking ? No where did it mention that she had stopped.. I hope I'm wrong but if she is still drinking it merits social work involvement. The story of her passed out alone on couch with three young kids upstairs is alarming.
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I have just finished her book and the impression it gives is she is a recovered alcoholic and completely sober. Haven't seen anywhere a reference to still drinking
 
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