TiffanyThinks #25 We still got this

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H&N said:
Besides the God surgeon, there's also God himself who was gonna take over during the surgery and do his magic hocus pocus through the hands of the surgeon. Praise the lord! hmmm did not work after all, God surgeon and God himself fucked up badly in this case... maybe another 1200 rosaries will do the trick... tick tick tick 🤪
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I have a question. Tiffany often makes a statement that "God has a plan for me" especially when there are bad news (when she was stage 4 with a lung met back in the day or now with the newest developments). I don't understand this statement especially in regard to bad developments.
How is it reassuring or comforting to her? She seems to imply that it's comforting to think that. So it's "Okay, I have stage 4 cancer with metastases and I will probably die but it's god's plan for me so I must accept it"? Is that it?
 
Ionia said:
Exactly that. Both the lung and the liver were under investigation. Difference been that at St George they told her it was lung cancer and she was stage 4. While the liver, investigated in the Royal Marsden due to suspicions in a scan, apparently was diagnosed as inflammation.
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Call me confused...did not follow that early on...but I thought St. Geo. said colon cancer with met to lung and thus no surgery stage 4. I never heard it was just diagnosed as primary lung cancer...am I wrong?
 
Anonimus007 said:
she does not outright said that she turn down the chemo,it is my assumption. but I watched back the video and she said that she knows the surgery is not the end of the journey because they might suggest chemo, after that she never spoke about it as I know?! Im not working in healthcare so I dont know that chemo after this kind of surgery is a protocol or not. Maybe someone who works in healthcare can enlighten us.
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You are right. She was very inconsistent with that thought though. She would sometimes say that it ends with the surgery, and then she would muse and worry that it might not be the end. She would sometimes imply that if the results (of the margins) come back positive, she would need chemo. Has she actually said that she would need chemo regardless of the results? It's very unclear as per usual.
 
LeonorG said:
I have a question. Tiffany often makes a statement that "God has a plan for me" especially when there are bad news (when she was stage 4 with a lung met back in the day or now with the newest developments). I don't understand this statement especially in regard to bad developments.
How is it reassuring or comforting to her? She seems to imply that it's comforting to think that. So it's "Okay, I have stage 4 cancer with metastases and I will probably die but it's god's plan for me so I must accept it"? Is that it?
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I'm an atheist myself, but I can only assume she believes if God's plan says it's her time, then she has to believe he has something better planned for her in the afterlife so that thought brings her comfort.
 
oceanbaby said:
I'm an atheist myself, but I can only assume she believes if God's plan says it's her time, then she has to believe he has something better planned for her in the afterlife so that thought brings her comfort.
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I'm also an atheist and it's incomprehensible to me, to think that way.
Maybe she thinks god will help her or save her (for some reason, despite giving her the cancer, if she believes it's all god's plan).
 
LeonorG said:
You are right. She was very inconsistent with that thought though. She would sometimes say that it ends with the surgery, and then she would muse and worry that it might not be the end. She would sometimes imply that if the results (of the margins) come back positive, she would need chemo. Has she actually said that she would need chemo regardless of the results? It's very unclear as per usual.
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again not much experience here but with such an extensive surgery and so many organs involved...even with clear margins chemo can be recommended. My big question here is was there any examination of the lung made during surgery or is that organ too far afield to be considered given the history of the nodule. Again these nodules can be lots of things but given the primary diagnosis was a visual inspection done on other organs. this question may really reflect my lack of knowledge...maybe surgeons have tunnel vision and her areas of concern did not lead to any others being viewed.
 
LeonorG said:
I have a question. Tiffany often makes a statement that "God has a plan for me" especially when there are bad news (when she was stage 4 with a lung met back in the day or now with the newest developments). I don't understand this statement especially in regard to bad developments.
How is it reassuring or comforting to her? She seems to imply that it's comforting to think that. So it's "Okay, I have stage 4 cancer with metastases and I will probably die but it's god's plan for me so I must accept it"? Is that it?
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In my opinion, there's no god, no heaven or hell, none of that nonsence. But I guess people who really believe in God keep believing in miracles God can do for them, they hang on to that till they got their death sentence... and than they believe god will call me to heaven and all the angels are waiting for me and I will live on... something like that?? And the family is also comforted by that thought their loved one is with "God" in "heaven" where there is no pain.
 
Turaj said:
Call me confused...did not follow that early on...but I thought St. Geo. said colon cancer with met to lung and thus no surgery stage 4. I never heard it was just diagnosed as primary lung cancer...am I wrong?
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I don't think the poster meant that St George's diagnosed Tiffany with primary lung cancer, I think they were just saying that St George's said that the lung nodule was confirmed as cancer, and thus she was stage 4, whereas Royal Marsden said the lung nodule wasn't cancer. As far as I'm aware it's always been colon cancer with the possibility of mets to the lungs and liver
 
H&N said:
In my opinion, there's no god, no heaven or hell, none of that nonsence. But I guess people who really believe in God keep believing in miracles God can do for them, they hang on to that till they got their death sentence... and than they believe god will call me to heaven and all the angels are waiting for me and I will live on... something like that?? And the family is also comforted by that thought their loved one is with "God" in "heaven" where there is no pain.
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I think most people of faith (whatever form that takes) also believe in medical science and try to get the best team they can if facing something like cancer,,,most don't just put it in the hands of their God. I think TT and her family sought out who they thought was the best surgeon and after that you do rely on some faith or luck or whatever to get thru. If the power of prayer can get you thru great. I never got the impression that TT et al ignored medical science. They were faced with some decisions and not sure I agree with all of them but I really don't think we know all the facts. She was no doubt presented with chemo post surgery and never really wanted to discuss that on camera knowing most would have encouraged her to get it. For whatever reason she did not.
 
jenh526 said:
There was one early vlog where she says she was told she was stage 4. This was the vlog after the one where she and Matt spoke with a junior doctor who gave them bad news, and Matt was genuinely (I believe) breaking down off-camera while T was filming herself. I guess this was not the Royal Marsden? Maybe she went to RM after that to get a second opinion and was told there that the spot in the lung might not be a met.
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Can you remember the title / date of these vlogs? I wanna go and give them a watch. I'm assuming if it's early on and she was told she could be stage 4 then you're probably right in thinking she won't have been at RM - these vlogs were probably filmed at St George's I'm guessing!
 
ShrimpCocktail389 said:
I don't think the poster meant that St George's diagnosed Tiffany with primary lung cancer, I think they were just saying that St George's said that the lung nodule was confirmed as cancer, and thus she was stage 4, whereas Royal Marsden said the lung nodule wasn't cancer. As far as I'm aware it's always been colon cancer with the possibility of mets to the lungs and liver
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okay I see how that could have been the meaning given the facts. Bottom line would be interested now in retrospect as to what they wanted to do if surgery was out.
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ShrimpCocktail389 said:
Can you remember the title / date of these vlogs? I wanna go and give them a watch. I'm assuming if it's early on and she was told she could be stage 4 then you're probably right in thinking she won't have been at RM - these vlogs were probably filmed at St George's I'm guessing!
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I too would like to go back and fill in. She has a lot a lot of videos. Might pick up different things now that we are at this point.
 
Ionia said:
I think that if her team and God doctor had told her that chemo is a must after her surgery to wipe out circulating cancer cells, Tiffany would not refuse. She said herself that there might be a need for chemo after surgery. Oddly we never saw her having chemo in the videos. Either she hide it in her videos, or her team did not tell her it is needed. She would not refuse..Either way, Tiffany was a stage 4 when she first was diagnosed in her first hospital and she was not given the surgery option. That is why they researched and found out the God surgeon in Marsden is among the best top15 doctors in the world who perform such invasive surgeries. Tiffany was vague, she never gave much detail about anything doctors told her. Most of her videos were about getting cozy, darling or Amma cooking, “ hmm hmmm” at food she tried and liked, the daily smoothies....
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O and when she had chemo after the operation, we all will have lnown it. Remember the endless waving with the Baxter?
 
Turaj said:
again not much experience here but with such an extensive surgery and so many organs involved...even with clear margins chemo can be recommended. My big question here is was there any examination of the lung made during surgery or is that organ too far afield to be considered given the history of the nodule. Again these nodules can be lots of things but given the primary diagnosis was a visual inspection done on other organs. this question may really reflect my lack of knowledge...maybe surgeons have tunnel vision and her areas of concern did not lead to any others being viewed.
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Again, good questions. I imagine, they would not go and look at the lungs as only the bowel region was planned to be operated on. If they planned to look at the lungs, Tiffany would be told and she would then tell us :LOL:
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Andi6009 said:
Agree! We would def have known allllllll about it - more opportunities to wear the over priced merch and see various doors that people go in and out of in the hosp-it-AL
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Yes there would be endless videos of the 3 stooges in the car on the way to the hospital and the "Amma and Matt are here, say hi, Amma and Maaatt" and talking about her merch 🤑 and the theatrical praying in the car 🤢⚰💀 You know that there is something very wrong with her, in more ways than one. Like who sets up a camera to show off their praying?
 
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pooch&mutt said:
anyone checking out TT old vids I’d recommend watching on invidious as there’s no adverts..you can’t comment but I’m guessing most on here like myself are blocked from that on her channel anyway..
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Me too 😆
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Just re watched the video called Doctor puts us in a bad mood *cancer journey" . I was trying to remember why I felt so sorry for her initially and then it was like a light switch when the lies became so apparent.

In this video her old doctor - before God doctor - phones her to check up. Allegedly he had misdiagnosed her from January 2021 to her diagnosis on 13 September 2021 including a failed biopsy in June/July 2021.

Given our similar experience this is when I fell for it. Can't have her at all but she had a ridiculous experience with medics around then.
 
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