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2020planner said:
peteykirch - you are correct on all accounts. They're quick to purchase - and flaunt - a $2,000 Gucci sweater, high-end thermostats (with digital photos), expensive dinners and brunches, pricey babyware (that they post with affiliate links), etc. but then are cheapskates when it comes to atoning for their "sins."

I don't care what people have, really - I don't. However, when you put your entire life on the internet - and are showy in that respect - expect objective criticisms.

Similar to your Goodwill example, I also recall humble brags when they would overtly show us they purchased a new enclosure for the capybaras at that animal sanctuary they visit, money they donated to Give Kids the World, etc. Don't show - just DO. I'd have more respect for them if they did.

I recall someone also gifted them $500 in a superchat (or something of that sort) for them to go to Victoria and Albert's for dinner. I simply couldn't. I'd do everything in my power to return that money, rather than flaunt it for a free meal, make a vlog out of it, and further monetize it to the hilt.

Also, yes. I am familiar with Tiffany Ann. She is a piece of work, indeed.
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I loved how the Trackers pretended to be dumb about disabling Super Chat on YouTube until like 2 months ago. They kept begging people not to send money, but people kept sending money anyway. Every 2 minutes Tim would be like "HOLY MACARONI DING DANG" because someone gave them free money. Yet, they never gave money back to people. Once again Tiffany Ann came swooping to the Trackers rescue and said all super chat money went to charity. I didn't realize she was also their tax accountant.

I remember the one guy who gave Tim $500 so they could eat at V&A, what a waste of money and food for to spend on the Trackers, especially Tim who has a less refined palate than Steve Porter formally of the Dis Unplugged, and that's saying something.
 
peteykirch said:
I brought that up (The bold and Red Text bit) to the Trackers Mega-Stan Tiffany Ann on Twitter, and she never responded.

It's one thing you know if they monetized it and said during the video that all the money from this video would be going to a selection of pet/animal related charities/causes, but they didn't.

They also "accidentally" monetized their apology video until Twitter brought it up and the ads were removed. Hell even Tim saying "It wasn't that much money between the two videos, maybe a hundred bucks." Any person worth their salt in remorse and regret would've also added more $$$ to that donation. Tim could've easily said "We maybe made a couple hundred bucks on both videos since they were posted, but because we were so insensitive and remorseful we are going to donate (x amount) for each year those videos were live on Youtube.

I don't buy a single thing they say, case in point a few weeks ago they had a donation for Goodwill of old clothes, linens, etc. They never filmed them going to Goodwill or anything. This was a huge red flag since these two FILM EVERYTHING. Me thinks they are just saying good things so people buy into their "super positive" vibes, etc.

With regards to Dim and Jenn always looking for handouts, nothing was more pathetic than both of them reaching out to Margaritaville Resorts to get a free room so they could go to Jenn's BFFs Wedding. Like damn, I get the hustle of making more money and expanding your "brand", but give it a break. Really makes me wonder if they even would've went if they couldn't get a free handout for lodging.
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I stopped watching and lost all respect for them when they said people were showing up at their house threatening them because they were SO UPSET that they were having a baby. No way someone is that upset about The Trackers having a baby. The worst thing that happened was someone saying that poor child on Twitter.

Still cant believe they used Kayleighs wedding to get a free handout at Margaritaville. Jenn was supposed to be in the wedding party but she was too lazy to even do that. Now Kayleigh isn't even a moderator in the stan group Trackees on Facebook. Tim and Jenn use their friends until they can't get them perks anymore then just throw them aside. Only reason their friends with Jim and Nicole is because Jim is a CM and can get them in to private events.
 
peteykirch said:
I loved how the Trackers pretended to be dumb about disabling Super Chat on YouTube until like 2 months ago. They kept begging people not to send money, but people kept sending money anyway. Every 2 minutes Tim would be like "HOLY MACARONI DING DANG" because someone gave them free money. Yet, they never gave money back to people. Once again Tiffany Ann came swooping to the Trackers rescue and said all super chat money went to charity. I didn't realize she was also their tax accountant.

I remember the one guy who gave Tim $500 so they could eat at V&A, what a waste of money and food for to spend on the Trackers, especially Tim who has a less refined palate than Steve Porter formally of the Dis Unplugged, and that's saying something.
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Yes. Steve "Mac & Cheese" Porter. You're right on the money with that comparison.

Tim is pushing 40. He needs to start to retire those cutesy phrases such as Holy Macaroni, Ding Dang, etc. I never was a fan of those but as he ages, they will only become more strange to utter. Not to mention, the "weeeee" "wooooo" "hooohoooo" on every ride as he films. That behavior doesn't age well either.

That being said, I often wonder what the long-term strategy is for so many of these Disney vloggers. Do they plan on doing this into their 50s? 60s? Those such as Pete Werner have developed business models that seem to be conducive to longevity. However, is Tim planning on doing extreme coasters for the next 10-20 years? Or will they transition to a business model that includes 1/2 a Disney cupcake update and 1/2 a Jackson vlog as the two of them age - and then ride off into the sunset with their money?

Platforms such as YouTube could or could not be here for the long haul and I, for one, would never purchase an almost half a million-dollar home such as the Trackers have, Michael Kay has, etc. - being solely reliant upon money gained from an internet-based venture (that is concurrently reliant among another third party as having the bulk of my content, i.e. theme parks) that could all be gone tomorrow. I think that COVID-19 and the shut down of the parks have been a major wake-up call for many of these vloggers.
 
Bangarang0522 said:
I stopped watching and lost all respect for them when they said people were showing up at their house threatening them because they were SO UPSET that they were having a baby. No way someone is that upset about The Trackers having a baby. The worst thing that happened was someone saying that poor child on Twitter.

Still cant believe they used Kayleighs wedding to get a free handout at Margaritaville. Jenn was supposed to be in the wedding party but she was too lazy to even do that. Now Kayleigh isn't even a moderator in the stan group Trackees on Facebook. Tim and Jenn use their friends until they can't get them perks anymore then just throw them aside. Only reason their friends with Jim and Nicole is because Jim is a CM and can get them in to private events.
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I don't buy their story of people stalking them like crazy at all. Yeah, I'm sure guy got through the two security gates/check points to stand outside your house in Lake Nona and curse you to hell.

I know Jenn exaggerates, but even that claim is going too far.

Outside of their subscriber count I don't know why Disney gave them media access. They know nothing about Disney, they are routinely wrong about everything, they routinely did/do things that Disney frowns upon. Look at the Slackers D23 coverage versus anyone else. Tim had no clue where/when anything was, and complained the entire time.

The Trackers are really succubus' when it comes to their friends. Once they exhaust their use to benefit the Trackers they cast aside under the notion of "They want privacy and being associated with the Trackers was too much for them."

2020planner said:
Yes. Steve "Mac & Cheese" Porter. You're right on the money with that comparison.

Tim is pushing 40. He needs to start to retire those cutesy phrases such as Holy Macaroni, Ding Dang, etc. I never was a fan of those but as he ages, they will only become more strange to utter. Not to mention, the "weeeee" "wooooo" "hooohoooo" on every ride as he films. That behavior doesn't age well either.

That being said, I often wonder what the long-term strategy is for so many of these Disney vloggers. Do they plan on doing this into their 50s? 60s? Those such as Pete Werner have developed business models that seem to be conducive to longevity. However, is Tim planning on doing extreme coasters for the next 10-20 years? Or will they transition to a business model that includes 1/2 a Disney cupcake update and 1/2 a Jackson vlog as the two of them age - and then ride off into the sunset with their money?

Platforms such as YouTube could or could not be here for the long haul and I, for one, would never purchase an almost half a million-dollar home such as the Trackers have, Michael Kay has, etc. - being solely reliant upon money gained from an internet-based venture (that is concurrently reliant among another third party as having the bulk of my content, i.e. theme parks) that could all be gone tomorrow. I think that COVID-19 and the shut down of the parks have been a major wake-up call for many of these vloggers.
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To be fair Pete and the Dis were always a travel agency/message board before any sort of vlogger. I'm sure the money they bring in via Youtube is peanuts compared to what the Travel Agency generates.
 
Have to say Jim and Nicole are a heck of a lot nicer than the Trackers. It's always a friendship that baffled me. Wonder will J&N be quick to distance themselves from them
 
havinalol said:
Have to say Jim and Nicole are a heck of a lot nicer than the Trackers. It's always a friendship that baffled me. Wonder will J&N be quick to distance themselves from them
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Nicole is super thirsty to be relevant on Social Media so she's using her husband who is a Disney CM to appease the Trackers to include them on certain vlogs that Jim is able to get the Trackers into because of his connections. If anything Jim would be the one to cut ties with the Trackers because there really is no benefit for him, other than keeping his wife happy.
 
Jim has a long-time history with the company. As an example, I recall when he was heavier and was with the popular cover band Mulch, Sweat, and Shears at HS (one of the other members of whom has / had a much longer history with the company having played with Panama then-known-as Blue Stone Circle at the Beach Club at Pleasure Island back in the late 90s and early 2000s). My point being - Jim has lots of connections.

I believe the Trackers are using them for freebies and connections. I'm sure Jim knows this. I used to be a CM myself (though 20+ years ago) and it's amazing how many people come out of the woodwork once they learn you work for Disney.

Nicole, on the other hand, seems to want to grow her online presence. Lots of people on Guru make fun of her; I don't have that much of an issue with her, her appearance, or what she says to ridicule her; but yes, I will agree, that she is very keen to grow her follower #s, likes, etc.

The interactions between the them and the Trackers always seems forced and uncomfortable to watch. Quite often, Jim looks like he'd rather be anywhere else but there - with the Trackers.
 
2020planner said:
Jim has a long-time history with the company. As an example, I recall when he was heavier and was with the popular cover band Mulch, Sweat, and Shears at HS (one of the other members of whom has / had a much longer history with the company having played with Panama then-known-as Blue Stone Circle at the Beach Club at Pleasure Island back in the late 90s and early 2000s). My point being - Jim has lots of connections.

I believe the Trackers are using them for freebies and connections. I'm sure Jim knows this. I used to be a CM myself (though 20+ years ago) and it's amazing how many people come out of the woodwork once they learn you work for Disney.

Nicole, on the other hand, seems to want to grow her online presence. Lots of people on Guru make fun of her; I don't have that much of an issue with her, her appearance, or what she says to ridicule her; but yes, I will agree, that she is very keen to grow her follower #s, likes, etc.

The interactions between the them and the Trackers always seems forced and uncomfortable to watch. Quite often, Jim looks like he'd rather be anywhere else but there - with the Trackers.
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This was posted on guru a long time ago, but this picture perfectly sums up what Jim thinks of Jenn. He hangs out with Tim and Jenn just to make Nicole happy. I think Tim was asking Nicole and Jim what they thought about the vegan options that they had at a restaurant and Jenn immediately cut them off to giver her own pointless opinion.

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Tavi Huit said:
I am not surprised he was at Universal, he said he wasn't going to Disney Springs, then he went to the media day. They both lie

Jackpot Tracker is going to be a spoiled little boy, he is never left to self soothe or entertain himself (without a camera pushed in his face) but I suppose that wont be the Trackers problem it will be their Nannies.
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Yeah, I tought that too about Jackpot. He's going to be a terror when he gets older.I feel sorry for his teachers when he gets into school with those two as his parents. Anything he does will be laughed at by his parents. Hit the teacher, oh that just how he is. Hit another kid. That's just how he is.Isn't he so cute?

The cute act wears thin after the 20th time of seeing it on camera honestly....
 
Bangarang0522 said:
This was posted on guru a long time ago, but this picture perfectly sums up what Jim thinks of Jenn. He hangs out with Tim and Jenn just to make Nicole happy. I think Tim was asking Nicole and Jim what they thought about the vegan options that they had at a restaurant and Jenn immediately cut them off to giver her own pointless opinion.

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YEP! I recall that! The look on his face speaks volumes.
 
Tim is 100% downplaying the mask discomfort just to get in the good graces of Disney/Universal.

I'm sorry, but 90 degree weather with high humidity, any mask regardless of it's material is going to make you warmer than not wearing a mask.

Also Tim is very confused as he's trying to remember where the things were at Universal.
 
peteykirch said:
Tim is 100% downplaying the mask discomfort just to get in the good graces of Disney/Universal.

I'm sorry, but 90 degree weather with high humidity, any mask regardless of it's material is going to make you warmer than not wearing a mask.

Also Tim is very confused as he's trying to remember where the things were at Universal.
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Yeah. I don't plan on going anywhere that I have to wear a mask. Now the CDC is saying that you shouldn't wear one. Then they tell you that you should. They have no idea.

90 weather is going to make everyone miserable.
 
I used to watch these two a couple of years ago before my last Florida trip... I remember watching a vlog where they talked about being infertile and Jenn got quite aggy about people asking her about it, so I was surprised to learn they have a baby now! They seem too sickly sweet for my liking... definitely a lot going on behind closed doors!

Did the YouTube/twitter account (that brought up old videos of them being racist) get shut down?
 
Gracessecret said:
I used to watch these two a couple of years ago before my last Florida trip... I remember watching a vlog where they talked about being infertile and Jenn got quite aggy about people asking her about it, so I was surprised to learn they have a baby now! They seem too sickly sweet for my liking... definitely a lot going on behind closed doors!

Did the YouTube/twitter account (that brought up old videos of them being racist) get shut down?
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Nope. That channel took down the "Urban Theme" party video after Tim and Jenn "apologized". The channel took like a 2 day break, and then started uploading again.

 
I'm not sure what to make of that Florida Resident Edits channel. Guru folks seem to adore it, but I'm not sure what the channel owner's true motivation is.

The video library is heavy on making fun of the Trackers or calling them out on their past behavior (i.e. the gay content and urban party content). Some of the terms the Edits channel uses to describe the Trackers have been used on Guru before (i.e. Jenbo), so it has to be someone who frequents the boards and has a major beef with the Trackers. (The channel also heavily makes fun of Michael Kay and his brother, though Edits states it's fun and satire and they're actually a fan of the Kays [?] ).

I actually recall that urban party video being posted on Guru and then less than 24 hours later, Florida Resident Edits made the video based from it. So either that person posting the video on Guru was meant to be a red herring and it was actually the Edits channel posting on Guru, or the Edits channel simply reads Guru for ideas. Edits had said that a "friend" forwarded them the video.

This was also discussed on Guru, but I also find it odd that Edits removed both the Tracker urban party video and the Prince Charming Dev video (which was posted within a day or so of the Trackers). Prince Charming Dev apparently commented under the video that he was fine with its content after some were calling Edits out for being racist as well. So that means Prince Charming Dev is aware of the channel too. Then, suddenly both videos are gone and the channel went down for less than a day citing a "hiatus."

So, somewhere, someone got a nerve struck (Edits?). Odd, considering Edits tries to come across as a balance between satire (as they call it) and a "rebel" of sorts in posting the "dirty" past of the Trackers - enough to cause them to have to put up an apology video (which was, in my opinion, not entirely sincere and, as referenced previously, they both twisted the truth.)
 
peteykirch said:
Tim is 100% downplaying the mask discomfort just to get in the good graces of Disney/Universal.

I'm sorry, but 90 degree weather with high humidity, any mask regardless of it's material is going to make you warmer than not wearing a mask.

Also Tim is very confused as he's trying to remember where the things were at Universal.
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I doubt Disney/Universal would mind him talking about the mask discomfort, he should just be open and honest about it - and I think Universal have areas where people can take off their masks if they need to? Not sure how many areas there are, or if they will make more as time goes on due to it being summer.

Tim being confused where things are at Universal is odd considering he has an annual pass there, doesn't he go there almost as much as Disney?
 
Desdemona said:
I doubt Disney/Universal would mind him talking about the mask discomfort, he should just be open and honest about it - and I think Universal have areas where people can take off their masks if they need to? Not sure how many areas there are, or if they will make more as time goes on due to it being summer.

Tim being confused where things are at Universal is odd considering he has an annual pass there, doesn't he go there almost as much as Disney?
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Tim being confused (and Jenn asking nonsensical questions) was also a dealbreaker for me after such a long time viewing them on a regular basis (5+ years).

I am a Floridian. Tim and Jenn are Floridians. The fact that they act so incredibly stupid about things that they should know - as lifelong residents - is entirely irritating and totally designed to elicit comments from their viewers. I find that inauthentic.

As an Orlando resident myself, I would also roll my eyes at their overdramatized accounts of weather - either general storms, daily rainshowers ("ominous clouds!"), or hurricanes / tropical storms).

I knew firsthand much of what they were "selling" on any given day (when doing the math and knowing which day they went somewhere, or which day they reported from home in a vlog) were incorrect and / or greatly exaggerated. This deception - again, to elicit comments and / or sympathy from the viewers (i.e. "hope you're OK!" "we're so worried about you!") - got on my nerves.

EDIT: To answer your question, Tim has been going to Universal for decades. They were "married" in front of Hogwarts. Jenn and he were fans of Universal long before they got into Disney's back pocket. The confusion is all an act.
 
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