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Whatamadworld said:
To be honest, I reckon most country homes in this country are owned by those who have inherited it. So many aristocrats in this country who have inherited wealth. Spencer family is one off the top of my head. Where these aristocrat's ancestors got their money to begin with, who knows. I wonder if slave trade played a big part.
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Most of the really old aristocracy built their wealth on land and farming … mainly sheep for wool … and keeping on the right side of the current/next Monarch.
 
Boring Monday said:
Most of the really old aristocracy built their wealth on land and farming … mainly sheep for wool … and keeping on the right side of the current/next Monarch.
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That land must have cost a bit to begin with. Any idea how they afforded it and what kind of background those land owners had before they bought it?
 
Whatamadworld said:
That land must have cost a bit to begin with. Any idea how they afforded it and what kind of background those land owners had before they bought it?
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We’re talking centuries ago, when the population was way less than now and owing land probably just meant building a wattle and daub hut on it … and expanding out from there. The wealth of England was built on sheep and wool - that why the Speaker of the House of Commons sits on a woolsack.

The Duke of Westminster who is rated England’s wealthiest landowner got that way because in the late 1600’s an ancestor bought some swampy land and orchard that turned into Pimlico, Mayfair and the like.

Also, there’s the pleasing the Monarch aspect as well … keep in with the Crown and a confiscated property can be yours. This benefited many during the Tudor reformation when monastic sites were up for grabs.
 
Whatamadworld said:
That land must have cost a bit to begin with. Any idea how they afforded it and what kind of background those land owners had before they bought it?
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As with everything, it's tribal, so someone was head of a tribe ( angles, saxons, celts etc) they fought other tribes ( I cant remember who it was who wanted to join England together) through marriage and battles. They owned land. They gave it to their loyal knights. Then other people fought them ( William I, Edward iv, Henry VII notably) gave the land to their knights who then passed it to their children and so on and on until now! And yes also as above- the Reformation made the Monarchy very, very rich, as they confiscated buildings and land which belonged to the Catholic Church, which itself was, and is very rich.
 
Boring Monday said:
We’re talking centuries ago, when the population was way less than now and owing land probably just meant building a wattle and daub hut on it … and expanding out from there. The wealth of England was built on sheep and wool - that why the Speaker of the House of Commons sits on a woolsack.

The Duke of Westminster who is rated England’s wealthiest landowner got that way because in the late 1600’s an ancestor bought some swampy land and orchard that turned into Pimlico, Mayfair and the like.

Also, there’s the pleasing the Monarch aspect as well … keep in with the Crown and a confiscated property can be yours. This benefited many during the Tudor reformation when monastic sites were up for grabs.
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Fair enough, that is interesting. I didn't know that first paragraph. I feel a bit silly for not knowing those things about England being built on sheep and wool. It makes sense though. My ancestors dropped the ball there, wish they'd bought up some land lol.

I didn't know about the duke of Westminster. He's 31 and already a billionaire, wow. Yeah, just proves that family money and connections is super important and rampant in this country among the aristocracy.

Just seen this story:

www.mirror.co.uk

Council tenants win fight with billionaire Duke accused of 'social cleansing'

EXCLUSIVE: Duke of Westminster Hugh Grosvenor wanted to demolish flats and turn them into luxury housing
www.mirror.co.uk www.mirror.co.uk

We need his ilk in this country like we need a bullet in the head. These people are what's wrong in this country.
 
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Whatamadworld said:
To be honest, I reckon most country homes in this country are owned by those who have inherited it. So many aristocrats in this country who have inherited wealth. Spencer family is one off the top of my head. Where these aristocrat's ancestors got their money to begin with, who knows. I wonder if slave trade played a big part.
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In the Spencer family case it was the wool trade, which was centuries before the slave trade. Many others were granted lands by William the Conqueror or other medieval Kings. The first Duke of Marlborough of course was given Blenheim Palace for winning the battle of Blenheim.

If you subscribed to Country Life or glanced at the properties advertised by Savills you would also see plenty of grand country homes for sale on the open market

Whatamadworld said:
Fair enough, that is interesting. I didn't know that first paragraph. I feel a bit silly for not knowing those things about England being built on sheep and wool. It makes sense though. My ancestors dropped the ball there, wish they'd bought up some land lol.

I didn't know about the duke of Westminster. He's 31 and already a billionaire, wow. Yeah, just proves that family money and connections is super important and rampant in this country among the aristocracy.

Just seen this story:

www.mirror.co.uk

Council tenants win fight with billionaire Duke accused of 'social cleansing'

EXCLUSIVE: Duke of Westminster Hugh Grosvenor wanted to demolish flats and turn them into luxury housing
www.mirror.co.uk www.mirror.co.uk

We need his ilk in this country like we need a bullet in the head. These people are what's wrong in this country.
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Actually 94% of those in the Sunday Times rich list now are self made

www.thetimes.co.uk

The Rich List: At last, the self-made triumph over old money

Britain has been transformed into a country where the self-made can succeed, with almost all the 1,000 richest people now entrepreneurs who built their own fortunes. Inherited wealth and old money have been all but banished from the 30th annual Sunday Times Rich List.When the Rich List was first pub
www.thetimes.co.uk www.thetimes.co.uk
 
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Reraciara said:
https://www.12ft.io/https://www.dai...-2022-Wimbledon-alongside-Prince-William.html

Another bit of "work" they can add to the list for the end of the year for the tally...
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I didn't think they attended until the final, where one or the other handed over the trophy to the winner. I'm wrong?
 
Boring Monday said:
We’re talking centuries ago, when the population was way less than now and owing land probably just meant building a wattle and daub hut on it … and expanding out from there. The wealth of England was built on sheep and wool - that why the Speaker of the House of Commons sits on a woolsack.

The Duke of Westminster who is rated England’s wealthiest landowner got that way because in the late 1600’s an ancestor bought some swampy land and orchard that turned into Pimlico, Mayfair and the like.

Also, there’s the pleasing the Monarch aspect as well … keep in with the Crown and a confiscated property can be yours. This benefited many during the Tudor reformation when monastic sites were up for grabs.
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Sometimes I really wonder what the duck my ancestors were doing back then that means I have to work now compared to people like his ancestors
 
hannah123 said:
Sometimes I really wonder what the duck my ancestors were doing back then that means I have to work now compared to people like his ancestors
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Mine were looking after the sheep for someone else :confused:
nothing changes!

Multi-21 said:
More that they sell tickets to an audience there which they don’t to charity events, but yes, it’s not a very taxing work event. 😂
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My duties will involve going to every Paul Weller concert and every stage of the Tour de France in the seated area.
It will be tough, but I’ll be brave for The Country.
 
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