The Ingham Family #344 Canapé? We'll Take It Away!

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It's not making fun of Isabelle for being nervous around people in a costume, it's the fact she's said she's nervous of pretty much everything since she got taken out of school and forced into isolation. The once outgoing, ambitious girl became afraid of her own shadow and couldn't do anything without asking mum.
I personally feel sorry for her, trapped in this bizarre cult and acting years younger than she is, pretending to do A-levels and following Creepy's ridiculous plans instead of getting her own life. I will make fun of the daft claims she's a social butterfly and is creating her own empire though.
 
Hiya Jane and steve , seems like your son and daughter in law haven't really spoken highly of you both since leaving the UK, I mean you got girls guinea pigs which sarah didn't want and Sarah even said she's a much better parent than you because her ginger daughter was brought up correctly to be confident about it but your son because of your tit parenting grew up insecure and bullied.... and Chris also doesn't feel he owes you anything to feel not guilty him leaving you all. Charming ... but still you look after prinny and at the mercy of your son and daughter in law. Keep being used it's evident you don't mean much to them except when serving a purpose
And the jury's still out on whether or not they've scalped those TS tickets. They could still get there & claim the ones Jane paid for were a scam & it'll be a great click bait title "TAYLOR SWIFT TRAGEDY!! WE ARE SUING THE TATTLER HATERS WHO SCAMMED US!"
 
Saz’s latest TikTok - Her kids screen time has never been so low ??!!!! Really???!!!! Esmeesme is constantly on her phone!!!! Does Saz not think TikTok counts as screen time?? Both Esmeesme and Borabelle have their phones in their hands whenever we see them on camera !!!
If you really want to see your kids screen time go down, let them get back to socialising and activities. My 15 yr old is currently away in Germany with one of the activity clubs she attends, I took her to meet the coach on Wednesday morning and I haven’t heard anything from her since!! Luckily, I can see from the groups FB page that she is having an absolute blast !!! None of the kids have their phones in their hands , they’re all just having a brilliant time !!! Incidentally, the day before she went on this trip she had only just got back from her DofE Bronze expedition, where again, she hadn’t touched her phone for 3 days !!!

Education screen time has never been so low she means
 
Here in the states, you have to be 18 to book a room. 21 to drink and smoke(anything).16 to drive..16 to work. However, you can join a work program at school and start work as early as 14.
Yeah I didn't think it had changed since way back when I was going to go. It was 18 to book hotels but then I found out you needed to be 21 to drink & thought duck that. So I went to Australia instead.
 
Her immaturity for a start is why. She needs to grow up, a lot, before she even considers going anywhere alone. Even if she did she’d need the hind of a rhino to cope with the kind of comments she would get given her behaviour online and that of her stepfather, not to mention being able to control her sisters.

Sarah and Chris have kept her 100% dependent and immature deliberately. Won’t be long until that blows up in their faces.

Boreabelle has only just recently got her own front door key, debit card and taken a solo taxi trip 😂 I very much doubt she would make it to the airport on her own

Literally the only reason she is inept at simple tasks for a person her age is that her parents have brainwashed her into believing she is, and have actively denied her of all opportunities that would prove otherwise. They communicate to her that she’s incapable on a daily basis.

It really freaked me out the other day when she took her Shein haul to Sarah to ‘look over’ like a child maybe Isla’s age. And Sarah gave it lip service saying ‘you don’t need my opinion’ etc etc and then we watched in real time as she manipulated Isabelle into removing a top she personally didn’t like. Chris manipulates Sarah, Sarah manipulates all the kids. It’s actually frightening.

Isabelle would absolutely struggle but that’s the point. Her comfort zone is so minute that she needs to be chucked in the deep end, struggle and then learn she can get through it. She hasn’t been allowed to grow, but it doesn’t mean the capabilities aren’t dormant and the equivalent of any other person her age.

She could travel to Florida with her sisters absolutely. She could solo travel internationally for a while - it’s literally the family brand. All these years of bleeping around Europe should have given her that as a skill. She could also move to study in the U.K. - there are plenty of unis or colleges that would take her on even with limited education. She could do a level 3 Art Foundation degree at one of many colleges that offer maths and English GCSEs alongside it for those who didn’t achieve the right grades. With that she could get into uni the following year.

She could move back and get an internship in whatever she wants … could probably blag a social media / comms / marketing internship with experience in the family business. Find cheap enough accommodation somewhere in Leeds or Sheffield. Or move back and live with Hi Steve or Katrina for a few months while looking for a job and learning to drive.

Genuinely. She’s capable of all of this and there are still options at her age. I know it’s just the culture of the thread to poke fun and laugh but it doesn’t change the fact that she is capable and I find it unfair to deny her that the way the family do.

My biggest fear is she lives under their wing until she has even fewer options than she does now, and some predator nastier than Chrish swipes her up and she thinks that’s her best option. I’m just begging if you’re reading this Isabelle - please believe you’re capable because you are.
 
Saz’s latest TikTok - Her kids screen time has never been so low ??!!!! Really???!!!! Esmeesme is constantly on her phone!!!! Does Saz not think TikTok counts as screen time?? Both Esmeesme and Borabelle have their phones in their hands whenever we see them on camera !!!
If you really want to see your kids screen time go down, let them get back to socialising and activities. My 15 yr old is currently away in Germany with one of the activity clubs she attends, I took her to meet the coach on Wednesday morning and I haven’t heard anything from her since!! Luckily, I can see from the groups FB page that she is having an absolute blast !!! None of the kids have their phones in their hands , they’re all just having a brilliant time !!! Incidentally, the day before she went on this trip she had only just got back from her DofE Bronze expedition, where again, she hadn’t touched her phone for 3 days !!!

Just looking at this photo makes me get that weird headache I get every so often in London when pollution is high. It’s so hazy and combined with oppressive heat I really don’t know how they are coping
 
I think the 30k was regarding views per vlog, she said we still get 30k views a day and that’s amazing or something along those lines. That’s not the truth though either, they are lucky if they hit 30k views full stop on a vlog anymore
Some of those views will be bought as well. Their comment section always has bots in it which are clearly bought to up their engagement
 
Literally the only reason she is inept at simple tasks for a person her age is that her parents have brainwashed her into believing she is, and have actively denied her of all opportunities that would prove otherwise. They communicate to her that she’s incapable on a daily basis.

It really freaked me out the other day when she took her Shein haul to Sarah to ‘look over’ like a child maybe Isla’s age. And Sarah gave it lip service saying ‘you don’t need my opinion’ etc etc and then we watched in real time as she manipulated Isabelle into removing a top she personally didn’t like. Chris manipulates Sarah, Sarah manipulates all the kids. It’s actually frightening.

Isabelle would absolutely struggle but that’s the point. Her comfort zone is so minute that she needs to be chucked in the deep end, struggle and then learn she can get through it. She hasn’t been allowed to grow, but it doesn’t mean the capabilities aren’t dormant and the equivalent of any other person her age.

She could travel to Florida with her sisters absolutely. She could solo travel internationally for a while - it’s literally the family brand. All these years of bleeping around Europe should have given her that as a skill. She could also move to study in the U.K. - there are plenty of unis or colleges that would take her on even with limited education. She could do a level 3 Art Foundation degree at one of many colleges that offer maths and English GCSEs alongside it for those who didn’t achieve the right grades. With that she could get into uni the following year.

She could move back and get an internship in whatever she wants … could probably blag a social media / comms / marketing internship with experience in the family business. Find cheap enough accommodation somewhere in Leeds or Sheffield. Or move back and live with Hi Steve or Katrina for a few months while looking for a job and learning to drive.

Genuinely. She’s capable of all of this and there are still options at her age. I know it’s just the culture of the thread to poke fun and laugh but it doesn’t change the fact that she is capable and I find it unfair to deny her that the way the family do.

My biggest fear is she lives under their wing until she has even fewer options than she does now, and some predator nastier than Chrish swipes her up and she thinks that’s her best option. I’m just begging if you’re reading this Isabelle - please believe you’re capable because you are.

She isn’t capable - she’s had zero life outside of her coercive abusive family that everyone can see on their vlogs for years and years. The skills needed must be learnt, they don’t magically appear and she won’t learn them with Sarah and Chrish and cannot escape them. I was given the same silly advice by extended family because my parents told people the same rubbish that I didn’t want to have friends or see anyone or do anything - I wasn’t allowed*

It cost me a fortune to *learn* all life skills and that only came about after I was seriously assaulted by someone who had, looking back, been grooming me for years and they were so disgusted in me they threw me out. If they hadn’t I’d have stayed with them. I had no bank account, no job, no qualifications (wasn’t allowed to revise), nothing.

She going to latch on to whoever shows her attention and get stuck in another abusive relationship UNLESS she gets some therapy, learns life skills (NOT everyone loves me or are haterz) and lives adult life, no more sticking her tongue out or being rude and threatening to people online.

ETA to clarify not allowed meant sometimes being put in hospital, if I was allowed to go for treatment (often not) I was never allowed to stay or say anything alone.
 
Literally the only reason she is inept at simple tasks for a person her age is that her parents have brainwashed her into believing she is, and have actively denied her of all opportunities that would prove otherwise. They communicate to her that she’s incapable on a daily basis.

It really freaked me out the other day when she took her Shein haul to Sarah to ‘look over’ like a child maybe Isla’s age. And Sarah gave it lip service saying ‘you don’t need my opinion’ etc etc and then we watched in real time as she manipulated Isabelle into removing a top she personally didn’t like. Chris manipulates Sarah, Sarah manipulates all the kids. It’s actually frightening.

Isabelle would absolutely struggle but that’s the point. Her comfort zone is so minute that she needs to be chucked in the deep end, struggle and then learn she can get through it. She hasn’t been allowed to grow, but it doesn’t mean the capabilities aren’t dormant and the equivalent of any other person her age.

She could travel to Florida with her sisters absolutely. She could solo travel internationally for a while - it’s literally the family brand. All these years of bleeping around Europe should have given her that as a skill. She could also move to study in the U.K. - there are plenty of unis or colleges that would take her on even with limited education. She could do a level 3 Art Foundation degree at one of many colleges that offer maths and English GCSEs alongside it for those who didn’t achieve the right grades. With that she could get into uni the following year.

She could move back and get an internship in whatever she wants … could probably blag a social media / comms / marketing internship with experience in the family business. Find cheap enough accommodation somewhere in Leeds or Sheffield. Or move back and live with Hi Steve or Katrina for a few months while looking for a job and learning to drive.

Genuinely. She’s capable of all of this and there are still options at her age. I know it’s just the culture of the thread to poke fun and laugh but it doesn’t change the fact that she is capable and I find it unfair to deny her that the way the family do.

My biggest fear is she lives under their wing until she has even fewer options than she does now, and some predator nastier than Chrish swipes her up and she thinks that’s her best option. I’m just begging if you’re reading this Isabelle - please believe you’re capable because you are.
You can’t be eighteen when you’re nineteen though, and definitely not when you’re forty, like Chrish. Her life is being sacrificed in a farcical and pointless attempt to deny the undeniable. Nobody in that family will ever be able to even engage with the outside world in any meaningful way until they process what Chrish did, honestly.
 
Mila’s birthday vlogs haven’t done very well for them. Looking back, Jace’s birthday only got around 45k views overall. Poor Aurora’s birthday performance will bring in even less.
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You can’t be eighteen when you’re nineteen though, and definitely not when you’re forty, like Chrish. Her life is being sacrificed in a farcical and pointless attempt to deny the undeniable. Nobody in that family will ever be able to even engage with the outside world in any meaningful way until they process what Chrish did, honestly.
I saw a documentary once called "My Husband the Pdf file" Two women, one very upper middle class the other just ordinary middle class whose husbands had both been charged with, convicted of served prison time for serious offences involving child abuse imagery. Films, photos etc.

It was fascinating to see the two very different responses but still how both of them were incredibly focussed on how their hisband's actions had hurt them or been offences against them. Almost an insult the upper middle class woman had taken it as. She actually said things like "Why didn't he just want to look at me? Why was I not enough?" and the other one was just blithely going along denying he had done anything too bad really. Just looked at some mucky pictures and she'd not wanted to know the details.

The posh bloke's daughters were teenagers when he was arrested and in their early 20s when the doco was made. He had been Headmaster of a posh private school which it was implied his girls also attended. The daughters seemed to have completely accepted his explanation that he'd been depressed and started looking at bikini ads and it all got out of hand or some bullshit. At least the posh woman wasn't having a bar of that and packed him a bag, dropped it off at the police station and told him to look for other accommodation.

The other bloke's daughter-in-law had laid down very strict rules that if he ever came back into the family home neither she nor her children would ever set foot near either of them again. So eventually that woman told her husband to bog off as well. But they neither of them really ever comprehended that there had been victims on their husbands' crimes other than themselves and their children. The abused children never featured in a single thing either one of them said. Not even when the second woman revealed that the neighbours had seen him looking through binoculars & telescopes out of the attic window. There were school grounds, playing fields and gardens with kids in them all around and she says "He used to look at trains from here - apparently there's a railway you can see...somewhere. "

There clearly bleeping isn't. The delusion was so deep.
 
A few gems in the comments already from tonight’s shiteshow. I was just chatting about the whole Jace being treated like it’s his birthday too thing with my husband and we both said, yes get him a scooter BUT give it to him the next day. Mila deserves a day all about her and not that little twit who is intent on stealing the limelight and snatching her gifts before she even has chance to look at them. Mila is such a little sweetheart and Jace is such a bully and it’s clear that they have placed him onto a pedestal. I was saying to my husband, if I was their parent at the start of Mila beginning to open her presents I’d sit Jace down and tell him gently “today is about your sister and while you are trying to be a good big brother, you need to let her open her presents and look at them first and when she comes to play with them, she gets the first turn because it’s her birthday”. That’s all it takes. But the lazy cunts can’t even do that for poor Mila. Makes me so sad, especially because I can’t have kids, it really hits a nerve.
 

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Literally the only reason she is inept at simple tasks for a person her age is that her parents have brainwashed her into believing she is, and have actively denied her of all opportunities that would prove otherwise. They communicate to her that she’s incapable on a daily basis.

It really freaked me out the other day when she took her Shein haul to Sarah to ‘look over’ like a child maybe Isla’s age. And Sarah gave it lip service saying ‘you don’t need my opinion’ etc etc and then we watched in real time as she manipulated Isabelle into removing a top she personally didn’t like. Chris manipulates Sarah, Sarah manipulates all the kids. It’s actually frightening.

Isabelle would absolutely struggle but that’s the point. Her comfort zone is so minute that she needs to be chucked in the deep end, struggle and then learn she can get through it. She hasn’t been allowed to grow, but it doesn’t mean the capabilities aren’t dormant and the equivalent of any other person her age.

She could travel to Florida with her sisters absolutely. She could solo travel internationally for a while - it’s literally the family brand. All these years of bleeping around Europe should have given her that as a skill. She could also move to study in the U.K. - there are plenty of unis or colleges that would take her on even with limited education. She could do a level 3 Art Foundation degree at one of many colleges that offer maths and English GCSEs alongside it for those who didn’t achieve the right grades. With that she could get into uni the following year.

She could move back and get an internship in whatever she wants … could probably blag a social media / comms / marketing internship with experience in the family business. Find cheap enough accommodation somewhere in Leeds or Sheffield. Or move back and live with Hi Steve or Katrina for a few months while looking for a job and learning to drive.

Genuinely. She’s capable of all of this and there are still options at her age. I know it’s just the culture of the thread to poke fun and laugh but it doesn’t change the fact that she is capable and I find it unfair to deny her that the way the family do.

My biggest fear is she lives under their wing until she has even fewer options than she does now, and some predator nastier than Chrish swipes her up and she thinks that’s her best option. I’m just begging if you’re reading this Isabelle - please believe you’re capable because you are.
Honestly Izzy could do all that but I don’t think there is a lot going on upstairs, Izzy was in full time education and the last years were in private school and I do think they used an online tutor initially.
Lazy didn’t show Izzy’s exam results and she was clearly lying to cover the awful score because she would have shown it willingly had Izzy achieved anything decent.
Izzy isn’t an academic and that’s fine we are not all the same and I’m not writing this to put her down I genuinely think that Izzy could succeed in other areas she should have made some money from her social media over the years money that could be used to start a business enterprise a lot of people turn a hobby into a career the problem is she doesn’t seem to have a lot of drive which is a shame because she has an online presence and that’s half the battle when promoting anything you do these days.
ETA there are a lot of successful young girls on TikTok one is a millionaire from her soap making and now body butter whips she started in her parents garage, another makes jewellery so it can be done and they had to gain a following from scratch.
 
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