The Ingham Family #314 Once a groomer, always a groomer, except when it comes to their dog.

[Tilly Kister]

People are idiots. My brother had a friend who seemed to have any excuse to stay over at ours when we were kids. We just assumed his parents were a bit tit and our house was better. Years later his parents were jailed for their part in a child sex abuse ring and it all became clear. It didn’t stop people trying to beat him up because of it. I’m not sure whether he was sexually abused himself but I do know he tried to hang himself because of it

I remember seeing a documentary with Anne Marie West on it a long while back. Some scummy, clueless journalist said to her "what would you say to the victims of your parents?" and Anne Marie said "I say How do you do? I am one of their victims too."

 

[slmapg]

Sarah and Chris should have ensured their children’s social medias were set to private with family and friends only! Poor parenting, but what’s new?

 

[ladylou36]

I think it's not nice however not just been the child of a groomer Esme is going to have to learn the hard way of having an open account .....it doesn't just happen to children like them bullying and perverts target every child going thats why it's important to get your child on a closed account with only people you know but as much as lazy and creepy don't give a tit Esme needs to do it for herself however she knows better and thinks she's famous...well if you think so Esme then with that also comes with a great deal of tit

I completely understand where you’re coming from. I monitor all my little cousins accounts and the minute they’re turned off private their accounts are removed. But esme has had her life shared online for the majority of her life so to her this is the norm. Her parents have taught her having a public life brings her money and “fame” they haven’t taught her about the dangers of online behaviour because Chris thinks that behaviour is totally normal, he does it himself. She doesn’t go to school to have the internet safety talks. So unfortunately she’s not able to learn all these measures us normal people put in place to keep our children safe.

 

[curious cookie jar]

I completely understand where you’re coming from. I monitor all my little cousins accounts and the minute they’re turned off private their accounts are removed. But esme has had her life shared online for the majority of her life so to her this is the norm. Her parents have taught her having a public life brings her money and “fame” they haven’t taught her about the dangers of online behaviour because Chris thinks that behaviour is totally normal, he does it himself. She doesn’t go to school to have the internet safety talks. So unfortunately she’s not able to learn all these measures us normal people put in place to keep our children safe.

Absolutely agree. I’d also add that private accounts don’t direct maximum traffic to the YouTube channels where the majority of their income is generated. Her parents are sacrificing her yet again in the pursuit of money

 

[Malcolm Conkers]

I remember seeing a documentary with Anne Marie West on it a long while back. Some scummy, clueless journalist said to her "what would you say to the victims of your parents?" and Anne Marie said "I say How do you do? I am one of their victims too."

It’s a dilemma, isn’t it? On the opposite hand, there is a reason society has developed such that a stigma is attached even to innocent people associated, through no fault of their own, with sex offenders, and that is that those crimes are so morally repugnant and heinous that the punishment comes with an extra-judicial element that touches everything and anyone connected with you, and forever, in order to dissuade other would-be deviants from acting on their deviant impulses. A throwback, perhaps, but you can imagine the devastating effect this would have had fifty years ago, when people knew their neighbours.

 

[Scotblock]

I’ve said this before on here that no child should pay for the sins of their father. I think in the Inghams case though that until the parents realise what he did was wrong then none of the family will ever see bad in him either. Everything just seems to be unravelling with them just now. The kids are wandering unsupervised about that house and getting into mischief. The other kids are virtually uneducated and left to their own devices. I mean Isla even has to make her own and the little ones lunch sometimes. It’s a sad situation all round and I do have to wonder where the professionals are in all this. Someone needs to step in.

 

[xxme2uxx]

I completely understand where you’re coming from. I monitor all my little cousins accounts and the minute they’re turned off private their accounts are removed. But esme has had her life shared online for the majority of her life so to her this is the norm. Her parents have taught her having a public life brings her money and “fame” they haven’t taught her about the dangers of online behaviour because Chris thinks that behaviour is totally normal, he does it himself. She doesn’t go to school to have the internet safety talks. So unfortunately she’s not able to learn all these measures us normal people put in place to keep our children safe.

Esme reminds me a little of my daughter at that age ...they know best I think Evan I creepy and lazy led a normal life and cared I could see Esme having open accounts in the sly

 

[Tilly Kister]

It’s a dilemma, isn’t it? On the opposite hand, there is a reason society has developed such that a stigma is attached even to innocent people associated, through no fault of their own, with sex offenders, and that is that those crimes are so morally repugnant and heinous that the punishment comes with an extra-judicial element that touches everything and anyone connected with you, and forever, in order to dissuade other would-be deviants from acting on their deviant impulses. A throwback, perhaps, but you can imagine the devastating effect this would have had fifty years ago, when people knew their neighbours.

The abuse Anne Marie suffered at her parents hands is incalculable. How anyone could seek to hold her accountable for the actions of the monstrous pair who created her defies reason. She was being prostituted to Rose's clients (many of whom were Gloucester coppers btw) from the age of 9. Her grandfather, father and mother used to regularly abuse her together. Most of these abuses were filmed. Arguably no one suffered as much or for as long as Anne Marie did.

Those who ought to be held up to public ire are the neighbours, social workers coppers and teachers who allowed it to go on for so long. One sole WPC tried to extricate those kids from that hell they dwelt in. Hazel Savage. And she had to wait until she was a Detective-Sergeant and had the authority to commence a proper investigation into what exactly was going on at 25 Cromwell St and where Heather West had really gone.

In the same way there are far too many enablers around the Inghams & these other abusive family vloggers. Mika Stauch, Ruby Franke, those awful Docherty Dozen pair of alkies. YT is littered with abusers exploiting their children, selling their privacy, exposing them to wronguns. Many of them for far longer and far more profitably than this pair of hapless chavs.

All with absolutely no legislative oversight. It's modern day slavery. Breed your own cash machines. At least kids in film & TV have some rights & part of the income they generate is protected for them when they reach their majority.

 

[curious cookie jar]

The abuse Anne Marie suffered at her parents hands is incalculable. How anyone could seek to hold her accountable for the actions of the monstrous pair who created her defies reason. She was being prostituted to Rose's clients (many of whom were Gloucester coppers btw) from the age of 9. Her grandfather, father and mother used to regularly abuse her together. Most of these abuses were filmed. Arguably no one suffered as much or for as long as Anne Marie did.

Those who ought to be held up to public ire are the neighbours, social workers coppers and teachers who allowed it to go on for so long. One sole WPC tried to extricate those kids from that hell they dwelt in. Hazel Savage. And she had to wait until she was a Detective-Sergeant and had the authority to commence a proper investigation into what exactly was going on at 25 Cromwell St and where Heather West had really gone.

In the same way there are far too many enablers around the Inghams & these other abusive family vloggers. Mika Stauch, Ruby Franke, those awful Docherty Dozen pair of alkies. YT is littered with abusers exploiting their children, selling their privacy, exposing them to wronguns. Many of them for far longer and far more profitably than this pair of hapless chavs.

All with absolutely no legislative oversight. It's modern day slavery. Breed your own cash machines. At least kids in film & TV have some rights & part of the income they generate is protected for them when they reach their majority.

YouTube attracts these narcissists doesn’t it. That’s fine if you’re just putting yourself out there but when you’re using your kids as your USP then it’s high time action is taken to demonetise family vlogging channels

 

[KeepBarmAndCarryOn]

Esme wouldn’t like a closed account. She’d have only 9 friends/followers. Creepy, Lazy, Hi Steve, Granny Jane, Boreabelle, Isla, the girl from the fireworks thing and maybe her brother and perhaps Katrina if her and Lazy are speaking at that time. Maybe it would show her how insular her life actually is though.

 

[GreaseMop]

If the girl who commented on Esme's Tik Tok is really going to Pylon Palace, hopefully Creepy does the right thing and very clearly shows himself away from the house at a 'hospital appointment' or taking the van somewhere when she's there.

 

[Impleo]

If the girl who commented on Esme's Tik Tok is really going to Pylon Palace, hopefully Creepy does the right thing and very clearly shows himself away from the house at a 'hospital appointment' or taking the van somewhere when she's there.

Yes. Just adding this again, which I know I do often but I think it's one of the most horrifying accounts of his behaviour. The quality is really poor so I've typed it out so everyone can hopefully read, including the parents of any children close to the Inghams. From an ex-skate friend of Chris, now a social worker, written under his own full name.

......................

I knew Chris Ingham personally

I have had a few messages of late due to me being in his skate videos

I stopped hanging around with Chris before his YouTube took off

The reasons I stopped hanging around with him was that I had really serious concerns around some of his behaviour. I am a survivor of sexual abuse myself, and as an adult I trained as a social worker. I'm involved in supporting groups around mental health and victims of abuse

I believe Jess 100% and I have witnessed first hand some of his behaviour. Shouting sex noises at school girls, making jokes about paedophilia on a regular basis, chronic oversexualisation of women, extreme narcissism and almost an addiction to hooking up with girls on tinder behind his wife's back

I'm not going to share some of our conversations, but in my mind I saw enough red flags to completely cut him out of my life

I hope this does go to the police, or his management or even Sarah sees this because I am happy to testify, and as a trained professional I welcome the opportunity to information share with relevant professionals

End.

Chris was in his late 20's, early 30's here I guess, not a teen. A step dad to Isabelle at least. After this, he went on to groom Ifam, including a 16 year old who he wanted to sneak away from her parents so she could get naked and party with him. There are allegations of even younger girls at his brother's gigs, one came directly from the sister of one girl and offered photographic proof of her at gigs with him. He now follows the cult of alleged r*pist and sex trafficker Tate and believes he is 'misunderstood'.

Why would anyone would allow a child near him?

 

[curious cookie jar]

Still up and the comments are piling up as well.

 

[Malcolm Conkers]

The ’responsibity’ debate does throw up some interesting problems - for example, and I don’t say this for comedy effect, but I genuinely believe Chris (and Sarah) had both a very weird upbringing, and has serious, deep-rooted psychological issues and appears pretty obviously cognitively impaired - is it fair to have a go at him, and at what point did his behaviour become his responsibility?

 

[Kate1970]

From last nights vlog!

 

[Impleo]

The ’responsibity’ debate does throw up some interesting problems - for example, and I don’t say this for comedy effect, but I genuinely believe Chris (and Sarah) had both a very weird upbringing, and has serious, deep-rooted psychological issues and appears pretty obviously cognitively impaired - is it fair to have a go at him, and at what point did his behaviour become his responsibility?

How weird do you think Chris's childhood was? I've always assumed he had a normal childhood - 2 parents still together, middle class upbringing, had the ability to get an education, appears to have contact with extended family. Jane is batshit, but I think she loved her children and both Dave and Chris seem to worship Steve. He was bullied and deeply insecure but doesn't seem to have faced any particular oddities over other families.

I see Dave and Chris as very spoiled mummy's boys who were unprepared for the real world, a bit like the current Ingham children will be.

 

[RachieBoo]

The last vlog re poor Miwas so called burn from baby products was disgusting! Fat Saz sat there and yet again lied and lied like Amber Turd on a witness stand.

Embellished bullshit made up crap about the damage those two odious idiots caused to their newborn daughter in the arctic. Now it's being picked up here she decided or the evil greasy onse decided to click bait the duck out of this injury. To say I feel anger for that poor little girl is an understatement.Miwa did not just wake up with that scar tissue, yes fatty cuntlips scar tissue around her lower face on that morning she presents regularly with it. It's another trophy of your tit fucked up parenting. You shouldn't be allowed to duck each other let alone have your tubes untied. Well done that person who neutered that mut faced witch, you have saved a potential Flowerbelle Fantasia Dpdia Future Ingham from abuse from the moment they open their eyes.

Read below Dr Creep and then go to Scandinavia with another baby safe in the knowledge that at least you have been warned and Aura will be burned through lack of empathy than lack of bleeping brain cells this time. Cock womble.


read this .......bleeping baby shampoo my arse..........

Popsicle Panniculitis
Exposure to cold weather or direct contact with ice could cause cold panniculitis in children. It predominantly occurs during infancy after cold
injury and generally affects the cheeks and chin—areas that are rich in subcutaneous fat and more often exposed to cold. Skin sensitivity to cold diminishes markedly with age.1 Lemez2 showed that ice applied to the skin for 50 seconds resulted in a subcutaneous nodule in 100% of newborns, in 40% of infants younger than 6 months, and in only a few infants younger than 9 months.

The underlying mechanism is thought to be the higher concentration of saturated fatty acids in the subcutaneous fat of neonates3 that crystallize after a slight decrease in body temperature.4 The subcutaneous fat in adults has predominantly unsaturated fats, which may explain why popsicle panniculitis occurs almost exclusively in children. Histopathologically, it is a lobular panniculitis5 characterized by intense inflammation at the dermosubcutaneous junction.

ETA : it's called popsicle because babies can present with this if given a popsicle to alleviate teething pain

 

[missdeameaner p]

I believe that many people will be inboxing and leaving esme comments about her poncy dad. All she has to do is Google him or the family name and everything would come up. I think this is why he has gone off the rail with this matrix crap. So he can tell his kids that the media lies because he is so super duper famous. The kids won’t question that just yet because they are not really old enough to understand that the newspapers can’t print things like they did about Chris unless it’s true. If he could have proven it wasn’t true it would have been removed. But he couldn’t prove anything. Because he did it. One day they will find out the truth. And that day is going to be a tit show for Chris and Sarah when their children realise they have been lied to for years. Let esme be smug and bitchy. It will all come crashing down. She isn’t humble at all so when it all goes to tit it will hit her very very hard.

 

[Malcolm Conkers]

How weird do you think Chris's childhood was? I've always assumed he had a normal childhood - 2 parents still together, middle class upbringing, had the ability to get an education, appears to have contact with extended family. Jane is batshit, but I think she loved her children and both Dave and Chris seem to worship Steve. He was bullied and deeply insecure but doesn't seem to have faced any particular oddities over other families.

I see Dave and Chris as very spoiled mummy's boys who were unprepared for the real world, a bit like the current Ingham children will be.

I just presume he didn’t turn into ‘Chris DeLonge’ out of nowhere, and he is one of the weirdest characters I’ve ever encountered. That his brother is exactly the same, but without the child sex part, sort of supports a weird upbringing theory. Plus, as you say, his mother is absolutely crazy.

 

[IdeletedbutI'mbackagain]

The last vlog re poor Miwas so called burn from baby products was disgusting! Fat Saz sat there and yet again lied and lied like Amber Turd on a witness stand.

Embellished bullshit made up crap about the damage those two odious idiots caused to their newborn daughter in the arctic. Now it's being picked up here she decided or the evil greasy onse decided to click bait the duck out of this injury. To say I feel anger for that poor little girl is an understatement.Miwa did not just wake up with that scar tissue, yes fatty cuntlips scar tissue around her lower face on that morning she presents regularly with it. It's another trophy of your tit fucked up parenting. You shouldn't be allowed to duck each other let alone have your tubes untied. Well done that person who neutered that mut faced witch, you have saved a potential Flowerbelle Fantasia Dpdia Future Ingham from abuse from the moment they open their eyes.

Read below Dr Creep and then go to Scandinavia with another baby safe in the knowledge that at least you have been warned and Aura will be burned through lack of empathy than lack of bleeping brain cells this time. Cock womble.


read this .......bleeping baby shampoo my arse..........

Popsicle Panniculitis
Exposure to cold weather or direct contact with ice could cause cold panniculitis in children. It predominantly occurs during infancy after cold
injury and generally affects the cheeks and chin—areas that are rich in subcutaneous fat and more often exposed to cold. Skin sensitivity to cold diminishes markedly with age.1 Lemez2 showed that ice applied to the skin for 50 seconds resulted in a subcutaneous nodule in 100% of newborns, in 40% of infants younger than 6 months, and in only a few infants younger than 9 months.

The underlying mechanism is thought to be the higher concentration of saturated fatty acids in the subcutaneous fat of neonates3 that crystallize after a slight decrease in body temperature.4 The subcutaneous fat in adults has predominantly unsaturated fats, which may explain why popsicle panniculitis occurs almost exclusively in children. Histopathologically, it is a lobular panniculitis5 characterized by intense inflammation at the dermosubcutaneous junction.

ETA : it's called popsicle because babies can present with this if given a popsicle to alleviate teething pain

This 100%!! We all called it on this thread at the time, she has had that burn around her mouth for months, it has nothing to do with baby shampoo or Esme's skin care. It is damage done to Mila's face from the extreme cold that she had to endure without adequate protective gear. They are the shittest parents and even worse liers.