The Ingham Family #232 The lying, the wig and the wardrobes (that still need doing)

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Otghmd94 said:
This is just heartbreaking!
In old vlogs Isabelle had an outing, bubbly and enthusiastic personality and wanted to become a vet and travel the world- now the poor girl has no education, no friends (not any that she speaks to in real life anyway, as she’s never out) and is scared or nervous for everything.
Yes Ezmé was loud, but she had friends so it was slightly toned down compared to what it’s like now. She was clearly much happier, much more lively and in general was less attention seeking.
Poor ‘little’ Isla, who went from having all the attention to being the forgotten child. She was the only girl interested in learning, seemed to be the most extroverted child and has suffered greatly due to loss of friends. She quite literally had the world at her fingers, she had a very sweet personality and it’s clear she had lots of friends - now she has nothing! No friends, no education, likely not even any savings to fall back on
Sarah, those girls a few years ago who were bubbly, outgoing, enthusiastic and ambitious are children who have a ‘zest for life’. They are unrecognisable now-a-days as they have no education, limited contact with anyone outside their immediate family and have not socialised with children their own age since starting homeschooling.
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That’s so sad, their futures have been damaged by their selfish parents.
 
slmapg said:
I wonder if they don’t tell him off on camera because of the way he responds? I can imagine him back chatting or even swearing and they’re worried Chris will accidentally leave it in a vlog, cos let’s face it he is tit at editing.
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He is a brat never seen a kid so bratty in all my life no fault of his own lazy has absolutely ruined that kid no doesn’t know what’s right or wrong
 
Kimbo said:
I was meaning more from a coercive perspective. I’ve seen these messages before and whilst very, very wrong of Jane to be as involved as she was and her conduct of which there is no excusing, I do believe that she was heavily coerced with threats from her narcissist son.
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I see your point of view. Chris is an extremely manipulative man. I just feel that Jane has shown over and over again how manipulative she can be (I could fill the next 20 Memory Mondays with the things that she has done - including bullying Sarah's niece Leah from one of her fake accounts). She is just a terrible human being and I don't believe that was not coerced into messaging these girls by Chris. In fact, as the messages between Chris and Jane show, he was actually furious with her for messaging fans and asking them to do things for her.

Chris has grown up seeing his mum manipulate and deceive people to get what she wants. This is why he is like he is. He has seen that lying and manipulating others is 'normal behaviour' 😔😡.
 
Neck lace said:
I see your point of view. Chris is an extremely manipulative man. I just feel that Jane has shown over and over again how manipulative she can be (I could fill the next 20 Memory Mondays with the things that she has done - including bullying Sarah's niece Leah from one of her fake accounts). She is just a terrible human being and I don't believe that was not coerced into messaging these girls by Chris. In fact, as the messages between Chris and Jane show, he was actually furious with her for messaging fans and asking them to do things for her.

Chris has grown up seeing his mum manipulate and deceive people to get what she wants. This is why he is like he is. He has seen that lying and manipulating others is 'normal behaviour' 😔😡.
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I think maybe a lot of what she did; even stuff that made Creepy mad, was borne out of trying to keep a narcissist happy. I suppose it was all a bit futile in the end as it seems they’ve pretty much alienated the paternal grandparents now. They were really involved with the children sometime ago, now they barely see them (as far as we can tell).
 
Impleo said:
Yes!

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Here's another where she wanted to start a rumour that someone was a pweirdo because they were publicly talking about Chris' actions. Look at the change of tone when she wants different things

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Aww well he finally did copyright wasnt the girls that finally made him snap though. Nope it was his beloved Ireland vanlife vlogs! Took a right old strop when that happened did knob jock, the man they’re talking about still has that label attached to him cheers Jane cheers lorraine.
Kimbo said:
I was meaning more from a coercive perspective. I’ve seen these messages before and whilst very, very wrong of Jane to be as involved as she was and her conduct of which there is no excusing, I do believe that she was heavily coerced with threats from her narcissist son.
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I’m sorry but tell that to an innocent man still being branded the word, imagine how that feels It’s soul destroying something not many people ever think about. Sorry Jane is Just as guilty as her son both grooming scumbags.
 
Neck lace said:
For this week's Memory Monday, we take a look at the sickening manipulation of two young fans by Jane Ingham. Charlie was 16 and I think that Molly was a similar age. Jane manipulated Charlie into contacting Chris's victims and what Jane did was truly shocking and sickening. Jane told them that she loved them, sent them Ingham merch, gave them tickets to meet and greets and helped them with any problems that they were dealing with in their lives. She had group chats with the pair of them and originally called the group 'Jane's favourites' 🤢. She manipulated the girls into doing things for her (such as messaging Jess and asking her to take her tweet about Chris's grooming down). Both girls felt terrible when they realised that they had been manipulated by this awful woman. Charlie and Molly weren't the only girls that she did this too. I remember two other young girls saying that she had done the same to them.

Here is Charlie's account of what happened to her. I have also included some of the messages sent between Jane and her.
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Can't think where Chris gets his creepiness from. Jane is a manipulative old cow who thinks she's something special. I also think she's frightened of Chris
 
DaisyMaisy said:
My opinion on the dreadful treatment of Isla....

Consider what they have included in the vlogs:
1. Hi Steve and Zelda stayed over at Xmas with their overweight dog, Coco.
2. There was also a puppy seen in the Xmas vlogs.
3. Creepy, who has previously been seen to almost like dogs, was glad to see the back of the puppy after Xmas. So much so that he had to 'deep clean' on/after boxing day.
4. Hi Steve and Zelda have visited the manor after Xmas with just Coco and no puppy in sight.

So.... who owns the puppy?

My theory is this:
MyForeverShirley owns the puppy and stayed in the caravan at Xmas. I reckon there was a big row and it came out that Shirley is actually Isla's real father. Chris had a strop and now misdirects his anger to the two things who have nothing to do with Shirley sleeping with Sarah - which are the puppy and Isla. Now it's all out in the open, Sarah can't stand to look at Isla either and the poor girl is cast adrift with no love or support from either Lazy nor Creepy.

Does this add up with anyone else?
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Who is MyForeverShirley? Lmao

I have previously thought Isla looks less like Chris than the other kids though 😳😳 quite significantly
 
I hope they were travelling in a vehicle with an MOT!

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