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MissAnonymous said:
Billie claims to have had COVID twice... but thinks it’s cool to meet up with people... bet it was to ‘cReAtE cOnTeNt’ for her only fans 🤮
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Judging by the things they talk about to each other, I think they definitely hooked up for content on her Only Fans. Porn clearly doesn't count as social distancing in her eyes....Seriously, at least be discreet about it if you're going to blatantly flaunt the rules.
 
I feel like I must be the awful one here but right if Nassehs girlfriend has had a baby .. and they were long term partners? Surely Emma knew she was cheating with him.
I know hes scum but I dont think shes much better either
She got pregnant off a one night stand the first time as she wanted to get pregnant.. she seen he wasnt interested in being a Dad but she still would show up to his concerts and follow him about ?
I mean why get laid by him a second time unprotected... she has really brought this on herself.

I feel sorry for her two children and his girlfriend.

I just cant stand Emma or Nasseh.. them eyelashes she wears give me shivers too... eeeeek
 
Threefeathers said:
I feel like I must be the awful one here but right if Nassehs girlfriend has had a baby .. and they were long term partners? Surely Emma knew she was cheating with him.
I know hes scum but I dont think shes much better either
She got pregnant off a one night stand the first time as she wanted to get pregnant.. she seen he wasnt interested in being a Dad but she still would show up to his concerts and follow him about ?
I mean why get laid by him a second time unprotected... she has really brought this on herself.

I feel sorry for her two children and his girlfriend.

I just cant stand Emma or Nasseh.. them eyelashes she wears give me shivers too... eeeeek
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I sometimes feel like people misunderstand the fact Emma has Autism, an actual disability that affects social communication and social interactions so to judge her by typical standards is neither right nor fair.

She "may" not have known he had a girlfriends, he could have hidden it. Haven't we all been in a situation where he's maybe 'not that into you' but may still have pursued the dream in our younger days, particularly with her autism it can be harder to read signs and signals.

Also regardless Nasser was the one in the relationship, the onus should ALWAYS be on him not to cheat on his pregnant partners, not for a women to not tempt him too much. HE should be the one with the loyalty.
 
I’m going to be shot for this... but there comes a point when Autism is not an excuse for behaviour.
Believe me, I am well educated in this and I can appreciate that when Nasseh has shown her the slightest attention she has miscommunicated that and taken it to mean more than it is and he has no doubt taken advantage.
Look at it this way, if my other half cheated on me with a woman with Autism; she would not be excused. If my child is pushed off the swing by a child with Autism that child needs discipline for that behaviour and should be treated the exact same as every other child, perhaps in a different way that their parent feels would be best understood by them.
I have worked in education for years... our aim is to never single someone out for their abilities/disabilities. The same goes for teaching young boys that struggle with communication. When they’re 16 and misunderstand another’s affection to mean more, they are not allowed to assault someone and later be excused because they misread signals due to their autism.
I have previously seen on here, Emma’s autism be used as a get out clause for her breaking COVID rules, poor co-sleeping practice and no car seat for her baby.
Quite frankly, she is abusing her Autistic status and is giving off a terrible impression of what it really means to have autism.
 
DRESlife said:
I’m going to be shot for this... but there comes a point when Autism is not an excuse for behaviour.
Believe me, I am well educated in this and I can appreciate that when Nasseh has shown her the slightest attention she has miscommunicated that and taken it to mean more than it is and he has no doubt taken advantage.
Look at it this way, if my other half cheated on me with a woman with Autism; she would not be excused. If my child is pushed off the swing by a child with Autism that child needs discipline for that behaviour and should be treated the exact same as every other child, perhaps in a different way that their parent feels would be best understood by them.
I have worked in education for years... our aim is to never single someone out for their abilities/disabilities. The same goes for teaching young boys that struggle with communication. When they’re 16 and misunderstand another’s affection to mean more, they are not allowed to assault someone and later be excused because they misread signals due to their autism.
I have previously seen on here, Emma’s autism be used as a get out clause for her breaking COVID rules, poor co-sleeping practice and no car seat for her baby.
Quite frankly, she is abusing her Autistic status and is giving off a terrible impression of what it really means to have autism.
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* the quote about the swing and a austic child pushing another child off is slightly wrong*

Hear me out my child is under going assessments for austim not every child is the same for instance my child can do something wrong and when we tell him off for it or tell him no before he does ( he also doesn't see danger so he wouldn't have thought pushing a child off a swing is dangerous) he doesnt pick up on emotions or tone of voice ect when been told off so he doesnt/ carnt be punished the same way as a normal child with no disabilities.


So maybe emma picks up emotions signals different aswell, clearly nasseh is the main problem here playing the girls off
 
Well this is clearly WAY too big a debate to get into and some people will never understand the difficulties faced by those living with disabilities, particularly those who claim to be 'well educated' in the subject 🙈🤣

Its not an excuse, its an actual reason, Emma will to some degree have relationship difficulties because of social communication and interaction issues that arise from her disability.

I also don't think people discussing how her autism may affect aspects of her life is Emma abusing her autistic status, like did she ever even try to use it as a defence? I haven't seen that personally.
 
Here2BNosey said:
Well this is clearly WAY too big a debate to get into and some people will never understand the difficulties faced by those living with disabilities, particularly those who claim to be 'well educated' in the subject 🙈🤣

Its not an excuse, its an actual reason, Emma will to some degree have relationship difficulties because of social communication and interaction issues that arise from her disability.

I also don't think people discussing how her autism may affect aspects of her life is Emma abusing her autistic status, like did she ever even try to use it as a defence? I haven't seen that personally.
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Thank you. When I was finally diagnosed with ADHD in adulthood I was telling my psychologist I was worried people would see it as an excuse. He looked at me and said "ADHD is not an excuse, it's a reason and that reason is not your fault". He gave a good example of a kid with ADHD going to school and telling the teacher "I forgot to take my medication today so I can't do any work". That would be using your diagnosis as an excuse. The kid goes to school and says "I forgot to take my medication today so it's going to be difficult for me today, please understand that I'm trying" is stating your diagnosis as a reason. I think about that conversation a lot when people comment that I've "drifted off into space", I'm too loud, too talkative or even too quiet.

It was painful to see Emma try to fight for Nasseh's attention. Whether we have autism or not I think we've all been in a "someone's not that into you, but you still want to try in hope they change their mind" situation at some point in our life. Liking someone doesn't mean they're going to like to you back. I think Emma has finally realized that having sex with Nasseh doesn't mean he's interested in her, he's just interested in sex and she was available, and that's hard to fully understand and accept no matter how your brain works.
 
Why is Francesca’s emoji darker skinned? 🤔

Oh ignore me it’s just the brunette one 😂
 

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Here2BNosey said:
Well this is clearly WAY too big a debate to get into and some people will never understand the difficulties faced by those living with disabilities, particularly those who claim to be 'well educated' in the subject 🙈🤣

Its not an excuse, its an actual reason, Emma will to some degree have relationship difficulties because of social communication and interaction issues that arise from her disability.

I also don't think people discussing how her autism may affect aspects of her life is Emma abusing her autistic status, like did she ever even try to use it as a defence? I haven't seen that personally.
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🙌 I have 5 children 3 on the autistic spectrum and 2 on the pathway . Many do not understand the struggles and whilst not everything is down to Asd most behaviours will be and have to be dealt with sympathetically.

DRESlife said:
I’m going to be shot for this... but there comes a point when Autism is not an excuse for behaviour.
Believe me, I am well educated in this and I can appreciate that when Nasseh has shown her the slightest attention she has miscommunicated that and taken it to mean more than it is and he has no doubt taken advantage.
Look at it this way, if my other half cheated on me with a woman with Autism; she would not be excused. If my child is pushed off the swing by a child with Autism that child needs discipline for that behaviour and should be treated the exact same as every other child, perhaps in a different way that their parent feels would be best understood by them.
I have worked in education for years... our aim is to never single someone out for their abilities/disabilities. The same goes for teaching young boys that struggle with communication. When they’re 16 and misunderstand another’s affection to mean more, they are not allowed to assault someone and later be excused because they misread signals due to their autism.
I have previously seen on here, Emma’s autism be used as a get out clause for her breaking COVID rules, poor co-sleeping practice and no car seat for her baby.
Quite frankly, she is abusing her Autistic status and is giving off a terrible impression of what it really means to have autism.
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As a professional you should understand alot better and when you said about a 16 year old being inappropriate and should not be excused for being autistic?
You should know how difficult it is for someone on the spectrum to understand social cues etc and it has been in the papers about nuerodiverse individuals been prosecuted just for touching someone's arm and side . Now just think about consent it can be confusing for a nuerotypical person now imagine how complex it is for some with asd . Neurodiverse individuals cannot be treated the same as nuerotypical in this instance as they don't have the capacity to fully understand there actions .
Now the law says for assaults etc someone has to have the intent how can they if they have limited capacity to understand the rules and yes it should 100% be taken into account when deciding on why they do or don't do something as its uncontrollable just as say in the midst of a meltdown they hit out again could be classed as assault but in that moment they don't mean to hurt anyone it is part of them its part of the disorder so should they be persecuted for this .
Sorry just a passionate asd mama who wishes more people understood autism and what it's like to actually live day in day out with it . I will now go back to a silent browser 🙏
 
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I have multiple immediate family members with autism, basically my full family is autistic and I believe that I am although I do not have a diagnosis. My son is currently in the early stages of being assessed. I have every bit of understanding and empathy for the struggles that autistic people face daily. There is still no excuse for the lack of safeguarding your children. If Emma isn’t able to safeguard her children then she needs a lot more support as a parent and from social services. I have been quite harsh about Emma in previous posts but I just can’t stand to see someone put their children in danger
 
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