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Sophiadee said:
It explains why she does things but she should have enough self awareness (seeing as the whole world tells her about herself too lol) to work on things and not duck her kids up in the process. I don’t have a relationship with either parent, moved into a hostel as a teenager and don’t put my daughter through all of that. I’m on my second baby dad who I’ve been with for years and the first tries to put us through hell with his dramas but I know that I’m a) sheltering her from all of it and b) having no more baby dads lol. 3 is crazy to me, let alone 4. And I’m very aware people will look at me like I’m crazy with the 2 😂 I know I got with the first due to my parent issues but I learnt from it and healed to not repeat my mistakes. Kail isn’t learning her lesson or doing any personal work
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On a side note - well done 👏
You broke the generational cycle and your daughter will reap the benefits.
 
I think Kail absolutely loves and adores her kids, I think she gives them everything she never had. Love, stability, hobbies etc. I think she has tried to create the family she never had. I think she is very sensitive and it comes out as anger and bitterness sometimes in order to protect herself. She isn’t successful in relationships I think because she jumps to fast into them, she can very petty and she is just choosing men no suited for her. Her and Javi were super toxic she was just as bad as him, but least they all seem to be decent fathers. Personally if I was her I’d be more cautious who i bought into my home she isn’t showing her kids what a normal loving relationship should be - I say this as someone with 2 baby daddies 😂
 
Sophiadee said:
It explains why she does things but she should have enough self awareness (seeing as the whole world tells her about herself too lol) to work on things and not duck her kids up in the process. I don’t have a relationship with either parent, moved into a hostel as a teenager and don’t put my daughter through all of that. I’m on my second baby dad who I’ve been with for years and the first tries to put us through hell with his dramas but I know that I’m a) sheltering her from all of it and b) having no more baby dads lol. 3 is crazy to me, let alone 4. And I’m very aware people will look at me like I’m crazy with the 2 😂 I know I got with the first due to my parent issues but I learnt from it and healed to not repeat my mistakes. Kail isn’t learning her lesson or doing any personal work
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I agree with you to an extent however I don’t think she is completely solely to blame for the breakdown of her other relationships. I think she thought Javi was her forever but he was very controlling and it became toxic on both sides. She said she loved Chris truly and he was horrible to her, and uses the children to hurt her. He’s an obnoxious hole and I have no idea why she went back, love is blind? If she has had a 5th and pregnant with twins by the same guy maybe this is the one?
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Miss.Chanandler.Bong said:
I just cannot forget the way she acted when Isaac wanted to stay with her more compared to when he wanted to see Jo more. Just selfish really

Also Isaac crying in the car and having to be comforted by Jo and Vee 🥲
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Was this not something to do with the parenting order though cos jo was asking for 50/50 and she would have got in trouble for not sending him? I’m sure in earlier seasons she didn’t want
To do 50/50?
 
Ingognito.Queen said:
Was Javi controlling? In what way?
Genuine question.
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He used to question every time she got a text, someone (male) texted her about school and he kicked off and demanded to see her phone. Her and a friend were supposed to go to Philly and he was having the boys (they were together at this point) and he waited till the friend came over almost ready to leave and said he wasn’t going to look after them or take them somewhere/pick them up I can’t quite remember. He really put her on the spot and it was for no reason and the friend was really uncomfortable. I think this may have been the time she hit him which I think is unacceptable, he was pushing her buttons tho right on camera. I think he knew what to do to wind her up and she said several times after that how controlling he was and we saw evidence of it. I love after that tho the scene where he comes for his post and she’s not having a bar of him, he’s trying to push her buttons and she’s just shutting him down.
 
On a side note David has poked the Tyler bear by posting, “just finished a rap song might get a face tattoo but definitely not xs over my eyes”. Yes David cos you are so successful 👏🏻 👏🏻
 
_basic_ said:
He used to question every time she got a text, someone (male) texted her about school and he kicked off and demanded to see her phone. Her and a friend were supposed to go to Philly and he was having the boys (they were together at this point) and he waited till the friend came over almost ready to leave and said he wasn’t going to look after them or take them somewhere/pick them up I can’t quite remember. He really put her on the spot and it was for no reason and the friend was really uncomfortable. I think this may have been the time she hit him which I think is unacceptable, he was pushing her buttons tho right on camera. I think he knew what to do to wind her up and she said several times after that how controlling he was and we saw evidence of it. I love after that tho the scene where he comes for his post and she’s not having a bar of him, he’s trying to push her buttons and she’s just shutting him down.
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I might be remembering it wrong, but didn’t it turn out that the guy she was texting was Chris?
 
_basic_ said:
He used to question every time she got a text, someone (male) texted her about school and he kicked off and demanded to see her phone. Her and a friend were supposed to go to Philly and he was having the boys (they were together at this point) and he waited till the friend came over almost ready to leave and said he wasn’t going to look after them or take them somewhere/pick them up I can’t quite remember. He really put her on the spot and it was for no reason and the friend was really uncomfortable. I think this may have been the time she hit him which I think is unacceptable, he was pushing her buttons tho right on camera. I think he knew what to do to wind her up and she said several times after that how controlling he was and we saw evidence of it. I love after that tho the scene where he comes for his post and she’s not having a bar of him, he’s trying to push her buttons and she’s just shutting him down.
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Oh yes ! Sorry, I remember all of this now. They had tickets for a concert and then he said he wouldn't pick Isaac up, and then they couldn't go after they had made plans. It was so toxic.

I remember at the start thinking that Javi was great and that him and Kail were great together.
 
_basic_ said:
He used to question every time she got a text, someone (male) texted her about school and he kicked off and demanded to see her phone. Her and a friend were supposed to go to Philly and he was having the boys (they were together at this point) and he waited till the friend came over almost ready to leave and said he wasn’t going to look after them or take them somewhere/pick them up I can’t quite remember. He really put her on the spot and it was for no reason and the friend was really uncomfortable. I think this may have been the time she hit him which I think is unacceptable, he was pushing her buttons tho right on camera. I think he knew what to do to wind her up and she said several times after that how controlling he was and we saw evidence of it. I love after that tho the scene where he comes for his post and she’s not having a bar of him, he’s trying to push her buttons and she’s just shutting him down.
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He did this as she cheated and he cheated. 2 people so similar in different ways. Part of me wonders if he liked the fame ti strt with when in the relationship but now he learnt his lesson.
 
plattyjoobs said:
I might be remembering it wrong, but didn’t it turn out that the guy she was texting was Chris?
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Yeah, Javi did do all of this but it did turn out she was cheating. But he was too lol. Just a whole lot of mess
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Red hair dont care said:
He did this as she cheated and he cheated. 2 people so similar in different ways. Part of me wonders if he liked the fame ti strt with when in the relationship but now he learnt his lesson.
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I’ll never get over Lauren staying with him. If I caught my bf in the act, I’d be going to prison let me tell you that lol
 
Ingognito.Queen said:
Oh yes ! Sorry, I remember all of this now. They had tickets for a concert and then he said he wouldn't pick Isaac up, and then they couldn't go after they had made plans. It was so toxic.

I remember at the start thinking that Javi was great and that him and Kail were great together.
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I had high hopes for them! He seemed so lovely and willing to take on Issac too, the pair of them cheated by the end but he’s treated Lauren appallingly. And dating bri as well he’s a snake
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Ingognito.Queen said:
Did Javi cheat on Kail? I can't remember
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Yeah he did I believe while he was deployed but she did too and according to him they were together at this point but she says they were already over. A whole messy mess
 
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