I’ll take that with a pinch of salt. She may of been off the rails in her teeens/twenties but honestly, her upbringing was poor. It happens in these situations.
But she is vastley different from vav now, she’s grown and matured, she is in a healthy relationship and dotes on her children. And vav is still a mean girl, numerous failed relationships, and is never with her kids. I know who I’d rather spend the day with.
You want a thread on HAHM, start one, but I think it probably won’t get much traction.