I have no idea why politicians think any of these stunts are good ideas - OK their PR peeps. It is stupid beyond stupid. So Mr Starmer... has your family sold that plot of land in Oxted yet which is waterlogged and unsuitable for development but which has somehow got a possible planning application passed??? You know Sir, behind the Haycutter...Might as well set up a thread for him, just when you think be couldn't get any more tragic . Now many advisors did the John Lewis wallpaper photos go through and all agree it was a good idea
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how do they never learn?! it reminds me of something from the thick of itI have no idea why politicians think any of these stunts are good ideas - OK their PR peeps. It is stupid beyond stupid. So Mr Starmer... has your family sold that plot of land in Oxted yet which is waterlogged and unsuitable for development but which has somehow got a possible planning application passed??? You know Sir, behind the Haycutter...
Might as well start a thread for him, just when you think he couldn't get any more tragic . How many advisors did the John Lewis wallpaper staged photo go through and all agreed it was a good idea?
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exactly, labour should be walking this, I used to be a member of the party but left as I just despair of their lack of action on anythingThere's probably utter bewilderment at labour hq as to how this didn't work and that his approval ratings are still way below the torys .
Seems like it would be so easy to have a credible opposition right now, but they blow it everytime focusing on the wrong things and treating the electorate as fools.
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the lack of any clear opposition to brexit was just unforgiveable in my opinion, before that I had liked and respected Corbyn, remember when he was asked which way he voted in the referendum and he refused to answer? totally ridiculousI like Keir Starmer and I think it would be very hard for any opposition right now as all anyone really cares about is the vaccine and getting out of lockdown. I think Labour's problems are way more than Starmer and getting rid of him would only make things worse. The party seems to not only not understand the English working classes, but loathe them. I think Brexit has thrown this into sharp relief and whatever Starmer does right is cancelled by the party behaving like a middle class pressure group for minority causes. The fact is most people are aligned with the Tories on social issues like immigration, gay rights, trans rights etc and Labour sound like a bunch of middle class students. I have always voted Labour, but I just despair. I think they are a dying party and unless they come up with a really good policy platform and have a purge of the far left nutters they are doomed. It's really depressing as Johnson is just terrible, but I don't know what Labour stand for. And don't even start me on Scotland.
So Labour needs to appeal to the racists and homophobes? Got itI like Keir Starmer and I think it would be very hard for any opposition right now as all anyone really cares about is the vaccine and getting out of lockdown. I think Labour's problems are way more than Starmer and getting rid of him would only make things worse. The party seems to not only not understand the English working classes, but loathe them. I think Brexit has thrown this into sharp relief and whatever Starmer does right is cancelled by the party behaving like a middle class pressure group for minority causes. The fact is most people are aligned with the Tories on social issues like immigration, gay rights, trans rights etc and Labour sound like a bunch of middle class students. I have always voted Labour, but I just despair. I think they are a dying party and unless they come up with a really good policy platform and have a purge of the far left nutters they are doomed. It's really depressing as Johnson is just terrible, but I don't know what Labour stand for. And don't even start me on Scotland.
the lack of any clear opposition to brexit was just unforgiveable in my opinion, before that I had liked and respected Corbyn, remember when he was asked which way he voted in the referendum and he refused to answer? totally ridiculous
I don't think so, he has been a vocal anti EU throughout his careerIt was all about not upsetting the northern working classes who wanted Brexit though- he was a Remainer in the closet.
I don't think so, he has been a vocal anti EU throughout his career
I don;t think you can change your opinion so much tbh, and if he had wanted to win over the north etc he should have put fprward a good argument for the EU, it is not hard to do, I also always found it odd as the EU has done/did SO much for workers rights in the UK, it was them who insisted on a minimum wage in the UK, to give just one example.Really...? Ahh l vaguely remember some old footage now you mention it..but did he still feel that way, why wouldn't he just come out with it?
I've wanted Lammy for leader for years now. I think he'd be excellent.I don;t think you can change your opinion so much tbh, and if he had wanted to win over the north etc he should have put fprward a good argument for the EU, it is not hard to do, I also always found it odd as the EU has done/did SO much for workers rights in the UK, it was them who insisted on a minimum wage in the UK, to give just one example.
There are good Labour MPs, David Lammy as one example, who would be someone good at PMQs etc, but starmer, even again Bojo comes across as weak with no ideas, no suggestions on how to deal with anything better, just criticisms, I used to watch PMQs all the time, but now cannot as it is just depressing
Corbyn is a long time Euro sceptic. He was on the fence during the referendum because that was the only way he could be leader, as the party was pro remain, but he didnt want to campaign for Remain, so we had his fluffed non committal to anything.Really...? Ahh l vaguely remember some old footage now you mention it..but did he still feel that way, why wouldn't he just come out with it?