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Mood stabilisers and qnti psychotics are often used with bpd due to some symptoms and problems people who have bpd can get. Some people with bpd only have therapy , such as dbt, for treatment and others have both therapy and meds.
I can understand how a diagnosis of bipolar and bpd are sometimes mixed but I dont believe anyone should be given any mental health diagnosis whilst abusing alcohol and or drugs. Not saying liv did drugs but I know she mentioned alcohol and 'being sober'...which suggests she had an alcohol issue



I totally get what you mean. Bpd or eupd is massively stigmatised, even by mental health professionals in some cases.
Bpd usually comes with other mental health issues , as well as trauma etc. Its real and doesn't make anyone bad or anything like that.

yes I have ptsd from trauma and severe anxiety. I’m on a large combination of meds but it’s kept me stable the last few months. There are so many combinations of symptoms that make up a disorder, not all people with EUPD/BPD are manipulative or attention seeking or split on people.

Congratulations on leaving hospital, I hope you have a wonderful Christmas - onwards and upwards :)


Thank you 😊 definitely onwards and upwards!!
 
yes I have ptsd from trauma and severe anxiety. I’m on a large combination of meds but it’s kept me stable the last few months. There are so many combinations of symptoms that make up a disorder, not all people with EUPD/BPD are manipulative or attention seeking or split on people.

Definitely.
It makes me sad when I hear assumptions made ...like people who have eupd being manipulative etc.

I worked in a mental health hospital about 5 years as a student and in mdt meetings we would be told of a new admission as 'a bpd'...alongside the eye rolls. It was really upsetting and I took it further up the trust because I found it appalling how staff trained to work with mental health, could be so judgmental and cruel xx
 
Definitely.
It makes me sad when I hear assumptions made ...like people who have eupd being manipulative etc.

I worked in a mental health hospital about 5 years as a student and in mdt meetings we would be told of a new admission as 'a bpd'...alongside the eye rolls. It was really upsetting and I took it further up the trust because I found it appalling how staff trained to work with mental health, could be so judgmental and cruel xx

I’ve seen and experienced some awful treatment because of the diagnosis, mainly in acute wards. It’s so terrible, it’s something I really want to change now that I am back in the community.
thankyou for caring, there needs to be more people like you 💕
 
Another video about ‘loving her jiggly belly’. NO YOU DONT!
You have literally just posted this week about having a binge eating disorder and disliking yourself 🤦🏼‍♀️
she can’t keep up with what she has been saying...
I was just coming on to say similar! Make your mind up love, maybe jiggling her belly and loving her fat gets more engagement than an eating disorder??? I'm not sceptical at all 😂😂
 
I was just coming on to say similar! Make your mind up love, maybe jiggling her belly and loving her fat gets more engagement than an eating disorder??? I'm not sceptical at all 😂😂
Why does she have to say she loves it can’t she just admit that she is unhappy but still promote that it’s ok to have gained weight during this past crappy year

Come on in reality no one would choose to have a belly no matter what she says!
 
Not saying liv did drugs but I know she mentioned alcohol and 'being sober'...which suggests she had an alcohol issue

Liv has 100% never ever had a drug or alcohol problem, and it’s ridiculous for her to even hint that she did. I know her in real life unfortunately. Don’t believe everything you see her post, she exaggerates and makes things up to stay relevant and for Instagram likes. Her only real addiction is attention...and that’s pretty sad.
 
Liv has 100% never ever had a drug or alcohol problem, and it’s ridiculous for her to even hint that she did. I know her in real life unfortunately. Don’t believe everything you see her post, she exaggerates and makes things up to stay relevant and for Instagram likes. Her only real addiction is attention...and that’s pretty sad.

Interesting, the impression I have through social media is she will do and say almost anything to get a reaction. And that shes not the easiest to be real life friends with, I can imagine it's a lot of work and patience.

I also dont understand the latest post about her body and respect. Sorry but not long ago was she not saying she had and is 'abusing' her body due to binge eating disorder. That she self diagnosed and I dont believe is true either.

She has a cycle of posting, show off big body in the most unflattering way and talk about previous eating disorder and self harm. Post about sex or sex toys. Post about being mentally ill. Post about not washing her hair. Post about how good shes doing now shes not working. Post about new eating disorder. Post about having no friends, post about feeling like no one on social media likes her, post half naked underwear pic, and repeat.

Her tiktok is awful, so many vile sex stories, and my only thought was imagine her family seeing this, or potential employers in the future if she ever decides to get off her back side and earn a decent wage.
 
Liv has 100% never ever had a drug or alcohol problem, and it’s ridiculous for her to even hint that she did. I know her in real life unfortunately. Don’t believe everything you see her post, she exaggerates and makes things up to stay relevant and for Instagram likes. Her only real addiction is attention...and that’s pretty sad.

This is shocking but to be honest I wouldn't have put it past her, she does seem like a massive attention seeker. There's something really unlikeable about her.
 
Liv has 100% never ever had a drug or alcohol problem, and it’s ridiculous for her to even hint that she did. I know her in real life unfortunately. Don’t believe everything you see her post, she exaggerates and makes things up to stay relevant and for Instagram likes. Her only real addiction is attention...and that’s pretty sad.
I can imagine that, like us all, she's been out and got hammered a few times and felt crappy about it but rather than accept that its part of life she's framed it as an addiction issue, which is an insult really.
Sometimes she seems like she could be quite a laugh but I imagine the attention seeking and me me me-ing would get on your wick. I can't remember the last time she mentioned having any mates.
I got really over invested in her short friendship with a couple of other bopo/ mental health influences and they all seemed unbearable.
 
It really bugs me that other MH instagrammers are like this. There are many who I followed for a while and I have had to unfollow them as they blame their crappy personalities on addiction or being bullied or something. And they make out recovery is all rainbows and butterflies when it certainly isn’t. AND, they make out they have all these other diagnoses other than BPD/EUPD and stigmatise the disorder even more.
 
Long time lurker of tattle but thought I would break my silence to articulate some of my opinions for my first post on this dinky lil thread... sorry this is gonna be a long ramble. Apologise as well if I relate this too much to myself and make typos!

I follow Liv and think she seems like a nice but awkward girl. She doesn't come across as malicious and she seems to stay clear of "influencer drama"*. Unfortunately, I think she doesn't really have the drive to have social media as a full time job. She probably spends hours on her feed and engaging with fans but her content is just kinda bland. Her mental health may be a reason for that, too, however - mental health impacts everyone differently and she may struggle to be creative when her moods are low.

On the topic of alcohol issues, I agree that she probably wasn't an alcoholic or drug addict but that doesn't mean she didn't have a problematic relationship with alcohol. As someone with MH issues myself I stay clear of consuming too much alcohol because if I go over a limit then I can really mess myself up mentally. I know a lot of people who are similar to me and some people can easily manage that limit and still drink regularly. Others cannot and anytime they drink they end up in a situation that puts them in danger. Another reason could be that she was too heavily relying on alcoholic and it was easier to cut it out now before it became an addiction/dependence that is harder to manage. Also, medication reacts badly with alcohol and if you're on a lot of meds you're not *really* supposed to drink.

In terms of her ED, I believe she has BED as she claims as a result of never having proper treatment for her bulimia. However, she probably also has (ON TOP OF THE BED) a rather sedentary lifestyle and doesn't keep a balanced diet. I think she wholly bought into the whole self love stuff with "eat cake for breakfast! have mcdonalds every night for dinner! duck it" BS and beginning to accept and love your body and "duck" diet culture (with the support of the bopo movement and her followers) made her gain weight. Instead of reacting badly to it, she accepted it and embraced her body - and honestly, all power to her. I've gained a lot of weight in the past few years because of various reasons (mainly due to an injury and medication) and I really hate it/feel very self conscious, I know it makes me unhealthy and I'd like to change that but seeing bigger girls love their bodies makes me feel less crappy in mine for the time being. But, I think, alongside this "duck diets eat what you want" crap that she is ALSO binging too. A friend of mine had BED and gained 70 lbs in about 5 or 6 months. She would often post pictures on her insta if she was having something indulgent like a takeaway or fancy slice cake but there was a lot more going on behind closed doors. Instead of just having the once slice of cake she would end up binging and eating the whole cake plus whatever else she could get her hands on. Binging is secretive and shameful so of course Liv wouldn't have shared her worst binges and if she did, its because she wouldn't have realised it was binging.

I think even if she is disgusted at herself right now and feeling really shameful that she knows she has an image to uphold and loving her body "flaws n all" fits in with that mentality although I do understand that it seems contradictory if she's seeking help.

The whole mantra of the bopo movement is that people are still of value even if they're disabled/fat/ill/unconventional and I think that is great. Showing the raw side of mental illness and that there is no one standard size should be promoted more. However, the community is often used to romanticise unhealthy lifestyles and back people into a corner of blind acceptance of their fate. Recovery and treatment are great and people should be encouraged to seek avenues to help themselves where possible. People should be valued wherever they are in their journeys and not seen as lesser because of it but to keep people at square one or down a path of further destruction because of a false idea of "authenticity" is really harmful. I think the community does this to many young impressionable girls and can often become a further way to hurt, not heal.

I do wish her all the best and I hope if she reads this she doesn't think this is me being nasty for the sake of being nasty, I do enjoy her content for the most but her being out on the public eye means she will have people commenting and speculating about her.

* with the exception of the selfloveclubb/milliekeepsgoing stuff (that I really want to know the tea from).
 
Long time lurker of tattle but thought I would break my silence to articulate some of my opinions for my first post on this dinky lil thread... sorry this is gonna be a long ramble. Apologise as well if I relate this too much to myself and make typos!

I follow Liv and think she seems like a nice but awkward girl. She doesn't come across as malicious and she seems to stay clear of "influencer drama"*. Unfortunately, I think she doesn't really have the drive to have social media as a full time job. She probably spends hours on her feed and engaging with fans but her content is just kinda bland. Her mental health may be a reason for that, too, however - mental health impacts everyone differently and she may struggle to be creative when her moods are low.

On the topic of alcohol issues, I agree that she probably wasn't an alcoholic or drug addict but that doesn't mean she didn't have a problematic relationship with alcohol. As someone with MH issues myself I stay clear of consuming too much alcohol because if I go over a limit then I can really mess myself up mentally. I know a lot of people who are similar to me and some people can easily manage that limit and still drink regularly. Others cannot and anytime they drink they end up in a situation that puts them in danger. Another reason could be that she was too heavily relying on alcoholic and it was easier to cut it out now before it became an addiction/dependence that is harder to manage. Also, medication reacts badly with alcohol and if you're on a lot of meds you're not *really* supposed to drink.

In terms of her ED, I believe she has BED as she claims as a result of never having proper treatment for her bulimia. However, she probably also has (ON TOP OF THE BED) a rather sedentary lifestyle and doesn't keep a balanced diet. I think she wholly bought into the whole self love stuff with "eat cake for breakfast! have mcdonalds every night for dinner! duck it" BS and beginning to accept and love your body and "duck" diet culture (with the support of the bopo movement and her followers) made her gain weight. Instead of reacting badly to it, she accepted it and embraced her body - and honestly, all power to her. I've gained a lot of weight in the past few years because of various reasons (mainly due to an injury and medication) and I really hate it/feel very self conscious, I know it makes me unhealthy and I'd like to change that but seeing bigger girls love their bodies makes me feel less crappy in mine for the time being. But, I think, alongside this "duck diets eat what you want" crap that she is ALSO binging too. A friend of mine had BED and gained 70 lbs in about 5 or 6 months. She would often post pictures on her insta if she was having something indulgent like a takeaway or fancy slice cake but there was a lot more going on behind closed doors. Instead of just having the once slice of cake she would end up binging and eating the whole cake plus whatever else she could get her hands on. Binging is secretive and shameful so of course Liv wouldn't have shared her worst binges and if she did, its because she wouldn't have realised it was binging.

I think even if she is disgusted at herself right now and feeling really shameful that she knows she has an image to uphold and loving her body "flaws n all" fits in with that mentality although I do understand that it seems contradictory if she's seeking help.

The whole mantra of the bopo movement is that people are still of value even if they're disabled/fat/ill/unconventional and I think that is great. Showing the raw side of mental illness and that there is no one standard size should be promoted more. However, the community is often used to romanticise unhealthy lifestyles and back people into a corner of blind acceptance of their fate. Recovery and treatment are great and people should be encouraged to seek avenues to help themselves where possible. People should be valued wherever they are in their journeys and not seen as lesser because of it but to keep people at square one or down a path of further destruction because of a false idea of "authenticity" is really harmful. I think the community does this to many young impressionable girls and can often become a further way to hurt, not heal.

I do wish her all the best and I hope if she reads this she doesn't think this is me being nasty for the sake of being nasty, I do enjoy her content for the most but her being out on the public eye means she will have people commenting and speculating about her.

* with the exception of the selfloveclubb/milliekeepsgoing stuff (that I really want to know the tea from).

Dont really buy into her not getting the right treatment for bulimia. She was saying not so long ago shes always had the right and good treatment from her mental health team
 
I can imagine that, like us all, she's been out and got hammered a few times and felt crappy about it but rather than accept that its part of life she's framed it as an addiction issue, which is an insult really.
Sometimes she seems like she could be quite a laugh but I imagine the attention seeking and me me me-ing would get on your wick. I can't remember the last time she mentioned having any mates.
I got really over invested in her short friendship with a couple of other bopo/ mental health influences and they all seemed unbearable.

That is exactly the case. Normal behaviour for any late teen/early 20s to go out once a week and have a few too many. That does not make you an alcoholic. Granted she’s on meds and any amount of alcohol will affect her differently so perhaps being sober is best for her, but to claim she’s sober because she was an alcoholic is seriously delusional. She’s also never taken drugs so I’m genuinely baffled where that has come from, in fact she was very much anti drugs and judged others for doing them.

She doesn’t have any friends in real life and those she did have she lost for a reason. Can’t always blame things on MH for that...I think she should look within herself and find those reasons and work on herself there. Sometimes people are just not very nice and can’t see past their own ego...and her ego has only gotten worse since getting loads of followers.
 
One thing that annoys me is she seems stuck in mental health land. I know it's hard, and takes over periods of your life. But it's also ok to have mental health issues and live life as best you can besides it. I feel like she lives her diagnosis rather than along side it if that makes sense. I have bipolar and been on medication for 10 plus years. Work full time and have responsibilities. I'm not saying I dont have moments, i do. But i like to live my life as best i can around it.
 
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