Roadside Mum #6 It is immoral to charge me for my own victimisation

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CabalofBolorneaise said:
Yeah, I do wonder how much slack they had… but then I think quite a few people also backed out so perhaps it was largely eaten up by that plus the need for more work from unbound and this is the ultimate consequence. Either that or RSM overestimated how much money she had to offer and £250 was never going to be possible for more than a handful of writers.
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Yes, except that they were only taking contributions on spec so they wouldn't have paid any contributors unless they'd committed to including them in the anthology. That was the bit I objected to.

I've done a little dive onto the site and looked at some numbers.

The project is already funded 115%. Unbound states that any amounts pledged over 100% will be split between the author and publisher -- not clear how that would work for an anthology.

Anyway, here's how much they've earned already from the different tiers of pledges:
  1. Pay it forward (2 hard copies): 132 @£33 = £4356
  2. Digital only: 109 @£10 = £1090
  3. Paperback copy: 427 @£15 = £6405
  4. Signed copy: 99 @£25 = £2475
  5. Read with a friend (2 copies; one address): 26 @£28 = £728
  6. Send one to your MP: 45 @£28 = £1260
  7. Signed book + mug: 12 @£35 = £420
  8. Signed book + Tote bag: 7 @£55 = £385
  9. Signed book + art print: 1 @£60 = £60
  10. Book club (5 copies): 3 @£70 = £210
  11. Book club gold (5 copies + author chat): 6 @£120 = £720
Total: £18,109

Not bad going.

I estimate an anthology like this would be around 70,000 words. That works out at around 25 essays / chapters of around 2,500 words each, plus intro, index, acknowledgements etc.

So 25 contributors @£250 = £6260

That leaves roughly £12k for editing, proofing, typesetting, cover design, printing and marketing.

So basically Unbound is using crowdfunding to get the punters to share all the upfront costs of a book production, thereby limiting the risk that the publisher would normally take on a book. And they get the author to do a lot of marketing on social media which further reduces their spend.

I'm too tired to calculate the costs of each step of the production process but my gut tells me they're barely in profit but it's not looking too bad. This is all before they start selling the book commercially. (Whether or not any bookshop punters would actually buy a collection of poverty stories is another question but ....)

Anyway, I might have made some mistakes above but just thought it was interesting to look under the surface a bit.
 
MurielSnark said:
Yes, except that they were only taking contributions on spec so they wouldn't have paid any contributors unless they'd committed to including them in the anthology. That was the bit I objected to.

I've done a little dive onto the site and looked at some numbers.

The project is already funded 115%. Unbound states that any amounts pledged over 100% will be split between the author and publisher -- not clear how that would work for an anthology.

Anyway, here's how much they've earned already from the different tiers of pledges:
  1. Pay it forward (2 hard copies): 132 @£33 = £4356
  2. Digital only: 109 @£10 = £1090
  3. Paperback copy: 427 @£15 = £6405
  4. Signed copy: 99 @£25 = £2475
  5. Read with a friend (2 copies; one address): 26 @£28 = £728
  6. Send one to your MP: 45 @£28 = £1260
  7. Signed book + mug: 12 @£35 = £420
  8. Signed book + Tote bag: 7 @£55 = £385
  9. Signed book + art print: 1 @£60 = £60
  10. Book club (5 copies): 3 @£70 = £210
  11. Book club gold (5 copies + author chat): 6 @£120 = £720
Total: £18,109

Not bad going.

I estimate an anthology like this would be around 70,000 words. That works out at around 25 essays / chapters of around 2,500 words each, plus intro, index, acknowledgements etc.

So 25 contributors @£250 = £6260

That leaves roughly £12k for editing, proofing, typesetting, cover design, printing and marketing.

So basically Unbound is using crowdfunding to get the punters to share all the upfront costs of a book production, thereby limiting the risk that the publisher would normally take on a book. And they get the author to do a lot of marketing on social media which further reduces their spend.

I'm too tired to calculate the costs of each step of the production process but my gut tells me they're barely in profit but it's not looking too bad. This is all before they start selling the book commercially. (Whether or not any bookshop punters would actually buy a collection of poverty stories is another question but ....)

Anyway, I might have made some mistakes above but just thought it was interesting to look under the surface a bit.
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Amazing work @MurielSnark

It certainly puts Guest's 68k kickstarter into perspective.
 
MurielSnark said:
Yes, except that they were only taking contributions on spec so they wouldn't have paid any contributors unless they'd committed to including them in the anthology. That was the bit I objected to.

I've done a little dive onto the site and looked at some numbers.

The project is already funded 115%. Unbound states that any amounts pledged over 100% will be split between the author and publisher -- not clear how that would work for an anthology.

Anyway, here's how much they've earned already from the different tiers of pledges:
  1. Pay it forward (2 hard copies): 132 @£33 = £4356
  2. Digital only: 109 @£10 = £1090
  3. Paperback copy: 427 @£15 = £6405
  4. Signed copy: 99 @£25 = £2475
  5. Read with a friend (2 copies; one address): 26 @£28 = £728
  6. Send one to your MP: 45 @£28 = £1260
  7. Signed book + mug: 12 @£35 = £420
  8. Signed book + Tote bag: 7 @£55 = £385
  9. Signed book + art print: 1 @£60 = £60
  10. Book club (5 copies): 3 @£70 = £210
  11. Book club gold (5 copies + author chat): 6 @£120 = £720
Total: £18,109

Not bad going.

I estimate an anthology like this would be around 70,000 words. That works out at around 25 essays / chapters of around 2,500 words each, plus intro, index, acknowledgements etc.

So 25 contributors @£250 = £6260

That leaves roughly £12k for editing, proofing, typesetting, cover design, printing and marketing.

So basically Unbound is using crowdfunding to get the punters to share all the upfront costs of a book production, thereby limiting the risk that the publisher would normally take on a book. And they get the author to do a lot of marketing on social media which further reduces their spend.

I'm too tired to calculate the costs of each step of the production process but my gut tells me they're barely in profit but it's not looking too bad. This is all before they start selling the book commercially. (Whether or not any bookshop punters would actually buy a collection of poverty stories is another question but ....)

Anyway, I might have made some mistakes above but just thought it was interesting to look under the surface a bit.
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Ah by backed out I mean the backers not the contributors - so the pot of available money they’d originally planned will be less now than it was then.
 
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I find this whole thing sickening. She does more to damage her cause than she does to support it. It is because of people like her that Daily Mail readers get so riled up about scroungers and those relying on the state for dubious reasons. She is almost a parody of such a character.
There are so many people that are desperate for help in this country and genuinely need it and they get abused and stereotyped because of people like Louisa.
She has had a wonderful opportunity to deliver this Anthology, almost gifted to her on a plate and she has done nothing but abuse that honour and privilege and the opportunity to lift herself and her children out of poverty. Many would have done anything for this opportunity. She just spends all her time on social media and (I suspect by the tone of some of her posts) drinks quite a lot, a lot of the time. She absolutely sickens me.
 
L3moning said:
Still think she should date Jack Monroe just for the chaos.
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Can you imagine it?!

Warning: sexual language:

You go down on me

I can't, arthritis in my shoulder/s due to poverty. You go down on me.

Me? I can't. I have ME. Get stuck in the bath, me.

Well, I can't move my fingers. Arthritic hands, innit.

I'll call Roadsidedad, he's used to driving half a day in the van *I own* to attend to my whims.

Can he cook?

He's not much chop, I used to mention it a lot on my twitter account; such banter I made.

Could you just put something in the oven?

ROADSIDE NAUGHTIEST GET UP HERE, MY LESBIAN LOVER NEEDS SOME TRANS FAT OVEN BAKED FOOD. And call your father!!
 
Wooh said:
Can you imagine it?!

Warning: sexual language:

You go down on me

I can't, arthritis in my shoulder/s due to poverty. You go down on me.

Me? I can't. I have ME. Get stuck in the bath, me.

Well, I can't move my fingers. Arthritic hands, innit.

I'll call Roadsidedad, he's used to driving half a day in the van *I own* to attend to my whims.

Can he cook?

He's not much chop, I used to mention it a lot on my twitter account; such banter I made.

Could you just put something in the oven?

ROADSIDE NAUGHTIEST GET UP HERE, MY LESBIAN LOVER NEEDS SOME TRANS FAT OVEN BAKED FOOD. And call your father!!
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WHYYYYY was I eating when I read this 😭
 
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