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AllSeeingEye123 said:
The case in Greece with Caroline Crouch sounds so bad. Why wasn't her husband killed? If you kill one wouldn't you kill the other to stop them talking about what happened? It doesn't make sense.

How long had they been together? I ask as it is very creepy a guy in his mid 30s married a teenager and got her pregnant.
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Glad I'm not the only one having a weird feeling about this .
 
super grateful said:
Also very interested in this case. As nurses we document literally everything we do, get drugs double signed (especially in paediatrics!!) and have to remember / reflect / document all sorts of events. I fear that one day a police officer will turn up and ask me something like “you wrote on one label the insulin was given at 1700, yet another label said 1710. What happened in those 10minutes on that shift that wasn’t actually on your rota because you were called in to cover last minute 5 years ago?!”. Odd one as almost everything we do in a hospital environment is noticed / monitored / double checked. On a ward you aren’t alone often. Cases like Beverly Allitt have ensured there are strict protocols in place.

I’m also always shocked at the difference in UK and USA reporting / releases. In the USA you will see images of the crime scene, know exactly what brand of socks the victim was wearing and hear all the awful details. Quite bizarre.
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Yup when I spent a couple of weeks in Addenbrooke's hospital in Cambridge last year the nurses all had these iphone-like devices that they used to record data and pictures *all the time*. Every time i was given pills or drips etc my wrist band barcode was scanned first. They could also use normal phones to log in and add photos of my injury to my records. You could then see every detail that had been noted or recorded on the bigger computers around the place. Very good system, they must have a ton of data on me!
 
Spider12 said:
I’ve just read up on Beverly Allit. I recognised the name but had forgotten the crime. Oh my goodness, that woman is the devil. The poor family with the baby twins! She killed one and severely disabled the other 😢
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I grew up in this town and knew a few of the kids she’d abused, one of them was the surviving twin you mentioned. What she did was horrific.
There are quite a few interesting articles about her childhood and give some small insight into how she ended up the way she did (not excusable AT ALL, I just find crime psychology very interesting)
 
Looks like Callum Wheeler is going to try and use a mental health defence 😒

https://www.12ft.io/https://www.dai...James-murder-suspect-21-remanded-custody.html

Trial has been set for 29th November.

Julia James' case, if there was no sexual assault, really reminds me of Peter Wrighton, who was murdered in Norfolk. Now that young man probably did have a legitimate mental health defence but his legal team didn't go down that route and I never really understood why 🤷🏻‍♀️

www.eadt.co.uk

Peter Wrighton killer Alexander Palmer jailed for life

A former Royal Marine commando has been jailed for life with a minimum term of 28 years for the “callous and planned” murder of dog walker Peter…
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Peter Wrighton murder: Alexander Palmer doctors warned of knife hoard - BBC News

Alexander Palmer's parents say they shared their fears before he stabbed an 83-year-old dog walker.
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Slightly off topic but Alexander Palmer's e-fit is more like a photograph. One of the best likenesses I've seen.

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Be More Pacific said:
Looks like Callum Wheeler is going to try and use a mental health defence 😒

https://www.12ft.io/https://www.dai...James-murder-suspect-21-remanded-custody.html

Trial has been set for 29th November.

Julia James' case, if there was no sexual assault, really reminds me of Peter Wrighton, who was murdered in Norfolk. Now that young man probably did have a legitimate mental health defence but his legal team didn't go down that route and I never really understood why 🤷🏻‍♀️

www.eadt.co.uk

Peter Wrighton killer Alexander Palmer jailed for life

A former Royal Marine commando has been jailed for life with a minimum term of 28 years for the “callous and planned” murder of dog walker Peter…
www.eadt.co.uk www.eadt.co.uk

www.bbc.co.uk

Peter Wrighton murder: Alexander Palmer doctors warned of knife hoard - BBC News

Alexander Palmer's parents say they shared their fears before he stabbed an 83-year-old dog walker.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk

Slightly off topic but Alexander Palmer's e-fit is more like a photograph. One of the best likenesses I've seen.

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Just followed this link and read article on the Julia James murder. That poor woman, ‘extremely violent’ attack, possibly with an iron bar. It says possibly a random attack too. A mum, wife, grandmother, friend, just out walking her dog 😢 absolute scum of the earth anyone that could do this to another human being
 
Dollylovesshoes said:
Not Murder but once again vile grooming etc.

https://www.12ft.io/https://www.dai...ally-abusing-13-year-old-girl-Calderdale.html
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I saw that story on the Mail earlier on, but no way am I going to read it. I don't even want to imagine what that poor child went through. My God, how is she ever going to be able to grow up have a normal life after what she's gone though? :cry:
 
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Husband pays tribute to ‘wonderful’ Brit wife murdered by burglars

THE husband of a Brit mum tortured to death by burglars has paid tribute to his “wonderful” wife in an emotional funeral eulogy. Heartbroken Charalambos “Babis” Anagnostopou…
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He loves the press attention doesn't he? If my wife the mother of my kid had just been murdered in an horrific way, talking to the press on a daily basis wouldn't be top of my agenda. I would be grieving in private.
 
AllSeeingEye123 said:
www.thesun.co.uk

Husband pays tribute to ‘wonderful’ Brit wife murdered by burglars

THE husband of a Brit mum tortured to death by burglars has paid tribute to his “wonderful” wife in an emotional funeral eulogy. Heartbroken Charalambos “Babis” Anagnostopou…
www.thesun.co.uk www.thesun.co.uk

He loves the press attention doesn't he? If my wife the mother of my kid had just been murdered in an horrific way, talking to the press on a daily basis wouldn't be top of my agenda. I would be grieving in private.
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I did think this...all sounds very suspicious to me. He doesn't seem as devastated as he should be, also flew in by helicopter, like its a show?
 
AllSeeingEye123 said:
www.thesun.co.uk

Husband pays tribute to ‘wonderful’ Brit wife murdered by burglars

THE husband of a Brit mum tortured to death by burglars has paid tribute to his “wonderful” wife in an emotional funeral eulogy. Heartbroken Charalambos “Babis” Anagnostopou…
www.thesun.co.uk www.thesun.co.uk

He loves the press attention doesn't he? If my wife the mother of my kid had just been murdered in an horrific way, talking to the press on a daily basis wouldn't be top of my agenda. I would be grieving in private.
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something stinks about this.
 
The Bradford grooming victim.. It happened over a period of 7 years between 2003 and 2010, so she would be 30/31 now. I hope she is getting has been getting the help and support she needs. Those men are scum of the earth.

I also think sonwthing about the husband in the Caroline Crouch case doesn't sit right. When I saw the first news story about it, I was reminded of that Shrien and Anni Dewani case.
 
Catsontoast said:
I see police are still searching at this location and that excavation work hasn't even started yet according to the BBC.

I was puzzling over what evidence the documentary film crew could have uncovered - this is a body that potentially has been there for more than 50 years and the police have always refused to search the site due to lack of evidence, even though it has been widely believed that Mary's body could be there.
The Sun are reporting that the crew brought in a cadaver dog and then used radar imaging and that Fred West was known to have carried out building work there around the time of Mary's disappearance. Whatever the truth, the police have clearly taken it seriously to act as they have.

I would hope that the family finally get some answers after all this time but then what comfort would it ever give to know your relative was a victim of the Wests?

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Friend of Fred West 'victim', 15, says they want 'closure' as police dig up cafe

COPS began digging for a body yesterday at a cafe where serial killer Fred West was a regular and did building work. His suspected victim Mary Bastholm, 15, who vanished in 1968, is feared buried i…
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Fred West police search Gloucester cafe for Mary Bastholm

A cafe in Gloucester where teenager Mary Bastholm worked before vanishing in 1968 is being examined.
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this is interesting. I too was wondering why they had decided to search all of a sudden.
 
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